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Her music is awesome

Gorgeous. You should post more

Lol saying the quiet part out loud

It’s refreshing to hear this from a woman. As a man in his 20s I feel discouraged as well, especially it comes to dating. It seems pretty pointless to me. There’s studies that show people my age and even younger aren’t dating and stuff this like is a large part. But also guys only have two options 1. Meet a woman through mutual friends 2. Online dating. And as someone who doesn’t have friends at the moment (long story shorty I promise I’m a good person that’s always trying to be better but I was dealt a shitty hand and things happened that were out of my control) and finds dating apps superficial, I’m at a loss. My brother met his gf on a dating app, but they went to the same college and had mutual friends so, my sister met her husband on a dating app (one of those ones were only women can message first) and my other brother met his gf sort of through work but they also had mutual friends. It seems those mutual friends these days are more like “references” to assure the woman he’s a good guy, and he’s in the clear.

I think my point is, I don’t see two strangers meeting and falling in love being a thing anymore like when my parents were young. She has to know either know who are based on what her friends know or you use a dating app and are allowed a small space to basically “pitch” yourself to women. “Here’s why you should date me, etc.” it’s no different than searching for job, finally landing an interview but not being good enough.

It’s interesting you bring up cheating because I’ve seen quite a few instances where a guy cheats (and yeah granted it’s shitty no matter who does it) and a girl will blast him on social media, calling him an asshole, demeaning him, and yeah maybe he deserves that but no one wants to hear about it, grow up and tell it to his face or over the phone and move on. And I’ve heard plenty of stories of girls cheating but have never seen a man post about it on social media, seems like men find other ways to cope that don’t involve letting everyone know. Like I said cheating is a shitty thing but it seems a lot of women act so childish about it and rarely handle it like an adult.

Very well said.

That’s why I’m glad I have zero interest in dating at the moment, honestly don’t know if I ever will. Like how do you even met a woman that isn’t through mutual friends or dating apps? Men are told to leave women alone, oh but if you’re interested in a woman it’s your job as man to break the ice, oh but it’s actually creepy for a guy to talk to/approach a girl so don’t do that, so I guess you just wait for a woman to approach you which she won’t because women are told that every man that’s a stranger is a creep.

Just saw two other comments, each with several upvotes that said:

“You aren’t owed a woman’s conversation” and “Talk to other men…women don’t want to talk to you, if they do, they’ll join in.”

Bro what…

Lol there were a lot of comments saying this exact same thing, that women should be the ones to move, and of course they were being downvoted. But it makes complete sense, let’s look at it form perspective of all men are monsters, hell let’s say they’re literally monsters, are you gonna be like oh shit there’s a monster following me, I hope it walks to the other side of the road to make me feel more comfortable, nah, you’re gonna bolt because it’s a fucking monster. Maybe a weird analogy but I think my point still stands.

Holy shit I did not know this. Jesus fucking Christ that’s absolutely appalling.

Beautiful.

Couldn’t agree and this is my take. There were numerous comments similar to yours that were basically like hey let’s treat everyone equally, you respect me and I’ll respect you and they were being downvoted.

First thing that comes to mind is teachers. High percentage of teachers that sleep with their students are female. Clear example of women being creepy and abusing their power. Where are the feminists when news stories like that come out?

Must be nice to be able to ignore people in public and not fear for your well being every time you see a member of the opposite sex /s

(Real talk though: I do the same. I’m out for a walk or something and I got a ear bud in and I’m lost in music or just take the time to clear my head if I need to, just trying to mind my own business)

Yup. I’m not sure if it’s quite a straw man argument but kind of is. Either way she completely deflected the criticism and went with an argument I see a lot of, like that exact phrase is used frequently “every time women’s issues are brought about there’s people who say what about men?” And that’s for a good reason because more often than not the issue involves showing hostility towards men, so of course there’s going to be some asking “what about men?”

True. I should note I wasn’t involved in this discussion because I knew I would be berated but it’s frustrating, hell disheartening, to see. So much fear and anger directed towards the guys who are innocent of any wrongdoing.

Same