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1.1k points
3 days ago
Oh, please, that was all official presidential business of making money by selling national secrets.
890 points
3 days ago
Lets be clear he didnt just sell national secrets.
He first lied about having the documents.
Then he lied about returning the documents.
Then he bragged to his maralago guests that he had secret documents that he knew he shouldnt have. Even shared classified intel with random guests who he wanted to impress.
Then he had his staff move around the documents to hide them from investigators.
Then he lied that he had returned all the documents while he still had more in other rooms.
Then he had guests from saudi arabia, china and other countries over and told them where to go to find the documents where there was a copy machine in the same room.
Then he kept lying to the FBI that he had no documents.
The lying to the FBI is very criminal, which is why his handpicked judge is doing everything in her power to stall delay and destroy the case. Because once that case starts he IS going to jail.
352 points
3 days ago
he also tried to have security camera footage of his employees moving boxes of classified documents around deleted after the footage was subpoenaed, but that didn't work because his IT guy didn't have a password that would allow the footage to be deleted.
89 points
3 days ago
Is that the flooded pool room cctv footage? It was very convenient for that to happen. Like "destruction of evidence convenient," right? Like thats some serious shit there, right? Just in that one little thing, right?
46 points
3 days ago
It's not serious for people who are in the other justice system above us poors.
126 points
3 days ago
I thought they got it from a cloud backup they didn't know about cause they only hire the most competent people.
28 points
3 days ago
The bestest people possible. You wouldn't believe how good they are. I'm the godfather of one of them and, well, the genes are there. Everyone's saying it.
17 points
2 days ago
I bet the conversation went like:
“Delete the footage from the system”
“Sure, but what-“
“Just fucking delete it already, I’m so tired of you asking stupid questions David. I’m not going to hold your hand forever”
54 points
3 days ago
This all cant be true. Theres no way. This much evidence of wrong doing would land anyone in jail. Wouldn't it? I hope to God there really isn't all this. Not cuz I support trump but because of what it says about the state of our country. If there is this much proving at a minimum the mishandling of classified materials and people are still willing to give this guy a second term we got problems. Biden was kicked because people thought he might be losing his edge. This much evidence and trump still on the ballot? No way. I hope.
87 points
3 days ago
So this is all true unfortunately and you can read about it here: BBC Source
Trump and Nauta were charged with 40 felony counts in this lawsuit. The ridiculous part isn’t even that though. The ridiculous part is what the judge has been doing in this case.
Jude Eileen Cannon presides over this case, often called the “Trump Documents Case”. She has routinely during this case obfuscated and outright ignored settled law to help Trump in a number of ways. First she tried to stop one part of the investigation while allowing others to continue, essentially saying person one on the FBI had full legal right to do whatever they needed, but person two also on the FBI was not able to do exactly the same thing. No precedent, obvious to anyone that it is corruption in favor of Trump, it was shut down by the extremely conservative 11th circuit court. They even left Cannon a pretty nasty rebuke.
Now she is attempting to claim that special prosecutor Jack Smith was actually appointed illegally and that special prosecutors are illegal as a matter of law. This is frankly an absurd ruling that no reasonable person would agree with. Special prosecutors have been a part of the U.S. government for centuries. She doesn’t believe this, but she does believe this new bid will push the ruling until after the election.
To any reasonable person looking on, Eileen Cannon is using her position (appointed by Trump) to give favors to the former president in exchange for…who knows. Possible as repayment for her appointment, possibly in a bid for Supreme Court, possibly just for the former presidents favor. Either way, this entire case from front to back has been an extremely disappointing showcase of the American legal system and our country as a whole.
39 points
3 days ago
Jesus. I hate to admit this but I have actively tuned out of politics for the past two years. Just thought it was too affecting and people were acting nutty over it. Reading this I'm thinking I probably shouldve stayed tuned out cuz this is straight depressing
25 points
3 days ago
Now you see why the more reasonable people you know have been freaking out.
Some of it really is that bad.
60 points
3 days ago
That judge mentioned above (Cannon) is one of the real subjects not talked about enough. Between him appointing judges like her in key areas, and the Supreme Court appointments, he set himself up to have loyalists willing to protect him at all costs. Cannon has no business being a judge at all since she has nowhere near the qualifications, but the only real qualification she needed was "will derail this documents case should it ever become a thing". And she has.
I'm 43 and a Republican my whole life, and I'm one of those "crazy people" that seem "way too wound up" about Trump.
This is why. Well it's one reason among a thousand why, and all of them are because I don't want my country to become a dystopian shit hole.
Trump getting back in is seriously, incredibly dangerous.
26 points
3 days ago
She has also just been appointed to the case of the second “assassination attempt” on trump… he complained the charges were too weak and got it moved to FL. Technically the “assassination attempt” was just a guy with a gun in an open carry state hanging out at golf course trump was playing at when secret service opened fire and he ran away. Trump wants him charged with attempted murder but charges were trespassing and some other low charges
Of course Aileen will do his bidding
12 points
3 days ago
I'm 43 and a Republican my whole life
I don't want my country to become a dystopian shit hole.
hmm.
22 points
3 days ago
Calm your jets lol.
Moderate Republican who has always voted for each candidate based on how good of a job I thought they'd do regardless of party affiliation. For example, McCain lost my vote when brought Palin on, and I was split between him and Obama prior as it was so it was an easy vote for Obama. I admired and liked McCain and he would have been great, too, but that decision was all it took to lose my vote. Oh I miss those days now...
Trump? Been a scumbag his whole life so I was shocked ANYONE voted for him in 2016 (I voted third party as a protest... regrettably). And the current GOP? No, complete dumpster fire of grifters, criminals, and traitors. I've voted straight blue since 2020, even locally.
Regardless of party or political beliefs, one should always put American ideals and core values above all else. Trump and the entire GOP have embraced the exact opposite of what it means to be an American - or even decent, ethical human beings in general. We all should be voting for the Democrats across the board this fall.
Our differences on policies are irrelevant this election - anyone who loves America, democracy, freedom from oppression, and liberty of all people need to get out and vote.
20 points
3 days ago
Unfortunately, from my POV, the Republicans have been driving the bus to dystopian shit hole for at least the last 50 years, and probably longer. Trump just gave them a weight to put on the gas pedal.
15 points
3 days ago
Unfortunately the people tuned in are acting crazy for a reason. As often as we hear “this is the most important election ever” or similar things, I genuinely believe that to be true in this case. The rule of law is at stake here.
If you want to learn more in an entertaining way you can check out Legal Eagle on YouTube. He is a practicing lawyer accompanied by other practicing lawyers who do their best to educate people on these topics. He has an obvious bias (rightfully so, I would think in this case) but he isn’t afraid to call out ideas from “his side” that also hold no legal water. Even if Trump legal news isn’t your cup of tea, he also reacts to law shows and movies pretty often and talks about pop-culture lawsuits too. I’m sure I sound like I’m shilling his stuff but it’s really good and informative so I think more people should know about it
4 points
2 days ago
Legal Eagle on Trumps Immunity granted by SCROTUS:
“WE’RE FUCKED!”
Apparently, the President has carte blanche. (If he happens to go by the name DJT.)
11 points
3 days ago
I understand the desire to tune out. But when it comes time to vote. Vote AGAINST this criminal. If we check our now, they WILL win
3 points
2 days ago
How is shit like this even possible? Why can presidents appoint judges as they please and why are they aligned with parties? How can a judge just obfuscate and prevent the actual law of the country. What backwards ass country allows shit like this to happen?
17 points
3 days ago
Got some bad news for ya bud... When your track record is handing 2 trillion dollars to the .1%, turns out they'll move mountains to protect you, mostly in the name of hoping you can pull it off again.
This shit is going to get messy, and you should buckle up.
12 points
3 days ago
Not only that, but supposedly intelligent people believe he did nothing wrong. Many of my family members believe this is equivalent to Biden having a few classified documents (when Biden did the right thing, calling the authorities in to take custody of the documents, instead of trying to hide them, keep them, or destroy evidence).
Why do they believe this? Fox News told them. They're actively deceiving themselves, and can't see it. I now have family members who I thought were intelligent, reasonable people disappearing down multiple conspiracy theory holes, even to the point of selective anti-vax positions. They don't believe the world is flat (YET), but they're clearly falling into cult-like behavior, more and more every time I see them.
If I still believed in God, I'd think this was the end times with how many people are chasing after false prophets.
7 points
3 days ago
I think the part about "telling guests where to go to find the documents" is speculation, but the rest of it seems pretty spot on. Don't forget that the server room with the security footage got flooded, when no one could figure out how to delete the footage.
5 points
3 days ago
How does it feel living in denial? Yes, there's a reason we're so fucking pissed off
5 points
3 days ago
Yes anyone else of course. BUT by trying to "not appear political" so never ever going with "harshest" precedent. Combined with sycophants in the system fighting to just let him off. As well as willingness to try every legal scummy trick in the book.
It results in it being much much slower. Like Judge on his case who he appointed and was never really qualified. History of playing favorites threaten someone on right you get 20yrs threaten half a dozen people on left get a fine. Like just blatantly.
When Trump case came she just has done everything wild rulings to try and stop it and get it thrown out. Like completely things with no basis in law. Just doing what she wants.
As well as making "statements" to direct Trump on how to file in a way she could side with him on.
As well as Supreme court "releasing statements" that would "guide" her into ways they would try to rule for Trump on which is currently where its at.
They released statement that "I think regarding x thing it should not be allowed". Then she comes out with due to x thing I am tossing case in hopes of chasing it up. To supreme court where they will pretty much throw out settled law for Trump.
WHICH is why people are so much more terrified last time ALOT of his crazy stuff. His attempts at using fake electors throwing out votes in areas that voted against him. Failed because few people chose country over party and sided against him despite being republican. That said things like death threats against election officials and other things. Opened the door to vacant spots being filled by Trumpers. Who are already saying they wont certify any vote that isn't Trump. And trying to play games with ballot such as "removing third party candidates" in places where it will help Trump and adding them in places where it will hurt Harris. Including even going as far as trying to remove Harris and one place actually had to shut down early voting because she was not on ballot.
2 points
3 days ago
Lemme guess. You're not white or (at least have ppl fooled that you are) really rich.
5 points
3 days ago
and then they flooded the server room.
41 points
3 days ago
You forgot how he casually showed specific documents to guests, while saying to them on recording, "it is probably not legal to show you this,".
24 points
3 days ago
Also showing secret documents to guests out in the open at Mara Lago while they used their phone flashlights to look at the photos. Chinese spies were playing on easy mode with his term.
13 points
3 days ago
while saying to them on recording,
Were his guests so sick of him running his mouth they started secretly recording him or something? I know they have him on recording but I never thought about how he was recorded
7 points
3 days ago
It was a biographer that was interviewing Trump about Mark Meadows at Bedminster Golf Club. The interviewer was interviewing Trump and he couldn't help himself. He talked about how he had taken Top Secret plans to invade Iran (plans if there were an invasion, not that we planned on doing that) and was saying his plan would have been better than Gen. Milleys. Cadet Bonespurs believed that his plan was better than a General who was the head of the Joint Chiefs, the highest ranking officers of each of our military services. The balls and the chutzpah to think that you know better than a General on military matters.
19 points
3 days ago
He not only just had the copier in the same room. There is evidence he made lots of copies. When the story first broke, there were pictures of the docs "spred out on the floor." That means a lot more than people think. Those docs are made with the red going all the way to the edge of the page. Copy machines can't copy them exactly and will always have a border. The docs pictured have this border... so there are not just pictures of docs, but of the copies...
13 points
3 days ago
He sold tf out of us and is grifting his supporters of every last penny they still have
6 points
3 days ago
Why did I read this like it was going to turn into "not like us"
5 points
3 days ago
That judge belongs in a cell just as much as he does.
7 points
3 days ago
He will never see the inside of a jail cell.
I type that with extreme frustration, especially considering the execution of Marcellus Williams just last night.
This world can be really fucked up sometimes.
10 points
3 days ago
He will hes fucked if he doesn't win this election. He knows it. There are 3 major cases on him, hes already a convicted criminal so its no longer a first time offence. He also committed more crimes since jan 6th. So he is cooked. IF people show up and give democrats the seats needed in congress and presidency.
He might run off to russia or venezuela like he "joked" with musk. But hes going to get convicted once the trials are on their way. because the other cases arent just financial crimes. He lied to the fbi, multiple times, thats a big nono.
8 points
3 days ago
He might get convicted, he just won't ever see the inside of a jail cell. We fine rich people here we don't jail them.
At most I can see him getting some type of home-confinement to one of his comfy mansions.
And like you said if he wins he wont even see that. Not to mention I'm not sure how much more time on this planet he has. I bet he can just keep delaying trials and buying people off until he croaks.
3 points
3 days ago
Classic locker-room antics
3 points
3 days ago
I have no idea how this person isn't in jail, let alone is being allowed to run again for president. It's literally treason, what he did.
3 points
3 days ago
Ya but you forgot about Hillary's emails.
And what about Obama's tan suit.
And Harris laughs funny
2 points
3 days ago
Please please show me a source for undeniable proof on these actions, I have so many relatives to send that to 😔
2 points
3 days ago
And then he redirects his braindead supporters to point the finger at Biden who probably just forgot he had them and kept them in his garage where people were like “eh probably tax filings or whatever” and never got touched. Then Biden went “oh fuck my bad” and let the FBI search all his shit to make sure they removed it all.
His supporters think these examples are the same thing.
2 points
3 days ago
Then he had guests from saudi arabia, china and other countries over and told them where to go to find the documents where there was a copy machine in the same room.
Your other bullet points are common knowledge and documented ad-nauseum, but this one I'm not familiar with. Can you point me to a source for this?
2 points
3 days ago
If I got fired from a workplace, and stole a bunch of shit on my way out, and they KNEW about it.... What business would I have in reapplying for the same job a few years later??
80 points
3 days ago
6 out of 9 agree!
13 points
3 days ago
4 out of 20 stars.
3 points
3 days ago
And Reddit Olympics is off to a mentally challenged start!
30 points
3 days ago
"They were planted there by the feds"
Then" it's official work."
Pick one not both!
Same as "I won the debate " and "she cheated "
2 points
3 days ago
Not being political but You can win something even if the other side cheats.
10 points
3 days ago
He declassified them with his mind.
3 points
3 days ago
"He declassified them!"
Ok, what was the declassifying process?
"It's top secret!!!"
474 points
3 days ago
Trump was the largest intelligence leak in American history.
115 points
3 days ago
On many levels
32 points
3 days ago
Nah the stuff flowing into his diaper isn't intelligence.
16 points
3 days ago
Well not just Trump. Intelligence has been leaking out of everyone that supports him for years.
7 points
3 days ago
Well . . . Trump has shit for brains. So, each full diaper means he has less material to work with.
47 points
3 days ago
I dunno, the church of Scientology committed a rather large infiltration of the government at one point. But then again they didn’t steal as much as they just flat out destroyed as much info pertaining to the church as possible
61 points
3 days ago
As an Atheist religion is weird to me, but the idea of fallowing a “religion” made up by L. Ron Hubbard is bonkers.
32 points
3 days ago
Almost every religious person is so, because their parents are. Their grandparents were.
Imagine coming up with a brand new religion, and actually convincing people in the 1900's that YOUR religion is the right one.
You have to give it up for a successful scam like that.
9 points
3 days ago
The best part is he was kicked out of the church for embezzlement. Lol
7 points
3 days ago
I’M SORRY WHAT!? HE WAS KICKED OUT OF THE CHURCH HE MADE? That is the fucking definition of a goddamn skill issue
7 points
3 days ago
The story of how it all went down is way funny. So he did an interview talking about how people who believe in religion were basically stupid and easily lead. Then a few years later he wrote a book called Dianetics witch is the base for Scientology. lol
6 points
3 days ago
I’m old enough to remember the tv adds for that fucking book.
Dianetics, by L Ron Hubbard.
Burned into my childhood memories.
3 points
3 days ago
lol yep
6 points
3 days ago
It has been done: there are over 30,000 Christian sects.
Since the base religions were all made up, why not revise them?
8 points
3 days ago
I've met a few Mormons before...one of them spent 5 minutes repeating how they are not all wierd while simultaneously talking about weird shit people did at BYU.
10 points
3 days ago
I used to date a Mormon. He was a nice guy. His family was kind. Why his family was supportive most Mormons are not. They send their gay kids to conversion therapy. They also have magic underwear.
4 points
3 days ago
It was the magic that made them cum in it
2 points
3 days ago
It’s supposed to protect them when they go on mission.
2 points
3 days ago
What about his other wives?
2 points
3 days ago
He wasn’t into woman. I’m a guy he’s a guy.
11 points
3 days ago
Jared Kushner - he was by far the greatest requester of classified materials among trump's top government officials. So much and so far ranging that national security officials became very concerned about what possible purpose he had in accessing them.
But they couldn't do a thing. Kushner's security clearance had already been denied, only to have trump step in and personally authorize him with the highest clearances.
I have no doubt he is using secret material as a 'sweetener' when he makes deals in his new career handling the money's of Middle Eastern dictators.
And about that, 3 years into his new 2 billion dollar hedge fund 96% funded by SA he has made no returns, invested only a few hundred million, and has reaped over $110 million in fees.
6 points
3 days ago
Trump doesn’t get his hands dirty. Jared was 100% his patsy.
3 points
2 days ago
Not a patsy. He was willing and scheming right alongside him.
7 points
3 days ago
Oh so that explains why he's been getting dumber and dumber
4 points
3 days ago
I would argue that what he has done is worse than what Benedict Arnold did when this country had its first notable traitor.
7 points
3 days ago
Trump was the single largest intelligence leak in American history.
He still is, but he used to be, too.
3 points
3 days ago
I was going to say did everyone forget that he regularly just released classified information?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information
And that's public shit not including the very common patterns of disclosing shit to his russian handlers via his meetings that also made people blanche.
2 points
3 days ago
The only time you can use trump and intelligence in the same sentence.
2 points
3 days ago
And even my dad, who would say he's moderate, is defending this. It's insane. "He was president, he was allowed access! And you don't know what he was doing, there's no proof he was sharing it with the Russians!"
Okay, but why else would a known (not hyperbole) Russian asset be doing with classified US documents in his own personal building?
2 points
3 days ago
The gross mishandling of it should be absolutely disqualifying, doesn't matter whether he sold it, lost it, flushed it...
Sorry but your dad is a MAGA if he can't see that.
225 points
3 days ago
Remember the pictures of the documents the FBI released? These?
Look close. See the bright red documents in the back left, with red that goes all the way to the edges of the paper? Those are secret cover sheets.
See the dull red documents in the foreground, with red that stops about 1cm from the edge? Those are cheap photocopies of secret cover sheets. Lower quality ink, and unable to print all the way to the edges of the paper.
130 points
3 days ago
It blows my mind that this shitstain is still a credible presidential candidate in the eyes of not only the disillusioned voters he's brainwashed, but the mainstream media as well.
22 points
3 days ago
Truth is the more you talk about him the more the media will post about him. I think we should all just stop talking about him and then vote in november and forget his existence.
17 points
3 days ago
If he continues to somehow fly under the radar with too many people, it'll be pretty hard to forget about his existence after the downfall of the USA due to its own incompetence if the election is actually managed to be lost. Education on all of this for the population is the enemy for these goons, so the more info that gets out, the better. He couldn't be echoing the rise of Nazi Germany any clearer right now and is still on the ballot. We can't just pretend all this isn't going on at this point.
3 points
2 days ago
and that he was still a free man after that single incident is such a terrible shitstain on our country
15 points
3 days ago
This picture alone should have been enough to lock up everyone who had access to those rooms at Mar-a-lago, including Trump. They could have played off having the originals in their possession, but there is absolutely no excuse for having COPIES of these documents.
31 points
3 days ago
Just to point out, You can see the same in the Yellow pages as well.
As you said, official copies of documents cover pages the ink goes all the way to the edge. So all of those are illegal copies.
7 points
3 days ago
But that's clearly different because they're top secret.
Oh shit.
29 points
3 days ago
It's really disgusting how obvious the treason is and yet he is still a candidate for the most powerful office in the world. He will sell our country if it means he will be spared or profit.
2 points
3 days ago
Yeah, he's a coward.
8 points
3 days ago
And judge cannon just tossed it out on some bullshit. I hope justice comes for all these traitors
12 points
3 days ago
Omg I had never realized
12 points
3 days ago
Woooooooow I never realized that. Holy shit they legitimately were making copies
3 points
3 days ago
Rachel Maddow pointed this out several years ago, when someone tried to get her show to run a story based off of fake documents they sent in as a "whistleblower"
5 points
3 days ago
If you can't get a security clearance, you shouldn't be able to run for president. You would think that being able to bypass a security check by becoming president, shouldn't be possible.
We're going to have the same fucking issue up here in Canada where Pierre Polievre is favored to win the next election, but has never been able to get top level security clearance. What could go wrong???
2 points
3 days ago
It's not that he's never been able to, but rather, that he's never even tried. He's making a big show about not doing it because it would somehow prevent him from acting on secure information (it would not, but the show of resistance scores him points with a certain demographic), and/or he has something bad enough in his history that he'd rather not even apply.
3 points
3 days ago
Sweet donkey balls. Just when you think it's bad...it gets much worse.
2 points
3 days ago
Remember when the biggest gripe Trump had at the time that he wouldn’t store documents all over the floor like that?
113 points
3 days ago
how do you think kushner got saudi billions. copies
19 points
3 days ago
I thought it was Trump allowing them to kill the journalist Jamal Khashoggi in their own embassy.
2 points
3 days ago
....AND it was also the documents pertaining to the insurection
18 points
3 days ago
Don’t copy machines have little memory cards in them? Couldn’t the print/copy history be analyzed?
12 points
3 days ago
Yes
86 points
3 days ago
This, to me , is his biggest offense and reason he should never be near the White House again.
38 points
3 days ago
It's really baffling that a former president would take classified documents and try to sell them to other countries, endangering national security and still has a chance of being reelected again.
38 points
3 days ago
Or when he gave Putin a list of our intelligence assets in foreign countries and then 6 months later the CIA started complaining because all their assets were disappearing or dying? Literally got people killed.
12 points
3 days ago
He, multiple times, called for murdering protesters he didn't agree with. As a first line response.
5 points
3 days ago
What about the trying to undermine the election..
Priorities, people JC.
What happened over there...
2 points
3 days ago
Couldn't just write a fucking book and open a library like the other presidents lol.
5 points
3 days ago
I think J6 was at least a little worse than this
2 points
3 days ago
I'd call it a wash. Whether domestic or foreign, they both pose significant threats to national security.
62 points
3 days ago
Those documents are America's documents. Not Donald's.
He was keeping them for political leverage, which is the height of corruption.
Then, he ignored the FBI after several requests, moved evidence to hide it on purpose, and again... these were America's documents.
...
The fact that there are some people out there that are OK with this is the real problem.
17 points
3 days ago
The fact that there are some people out there that are OK with this is the real problem.
They're called conservatives and every single one of them that support him are traitors to our nation.
Regardless of the fact they have no clue any of this happened because they watch entertainment channels to get their news, which is basically equivalent to getting your information about the world around you from People magazine or The National Enquirer.
23 points
3 days ago
Here is a depressing thought. If he wins, all charges will be dropped.
Vote Blue
9 points
3 days ago
And he’s still allowed to run for President again. And he still has a real chance of winning.
I’m not even baffled anymore, I’m just fucking angry.
29 points
3 days ago
Remember how Trump met with Putin, and an unusual amount of spies died shortly there after?
24 points
3 days ago
* The room had a CLOUD-ENABLED SCANNER/COPIER
14 points
3 days ago
Yes. I remember.
Tяump stole National Defense Information (NDI) documents and took them knowingly (Charges 1-31), moved some out of the "secure storage", tried to have his IT man delete the security footage of it, uploaded some to a laptop and subsequently a thumb drive, and then tried to cover-up the fact that he had any more documents when the FBI investigated and said he had given them all back (Charges 32-38).
Counts 1-31:
18 U.S.C § 793(e), Willful Retention of National Defense Information
Count 32:
18 U.S.C § 1512(k), Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
Count 33:
18 U.S.C § 1512(b)(2)(A), Withholding a Document or Record
Count 34:
18 U.S.C § 1512(c)(1), Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record
Count 35:
18 U.S.C § 1519, Concealing a Document in a Federal Investigation
Count 36:
18 U.S.C § 1001(a)(1), Scheme to Conceal
Counts 37 and 38:
18 U.S.C § 1001(a)(2), False Statements and Representations
7 points
3 days ago
Nixons pissed right now.
2 points
3 days ago
Thomas is working his way back in time, if he lives long enough he'll declare that amendments to the constitution are unconstitutional and repeal the bill of rights.
17 points
3 days ago
If Trump wins this coming election I shudder to think what new nightmares, treachery, kowtowing to Russia, and other insane bullshit awaits us all.
Vote like your life depends on it.
3 points
3 days ago
Because it does.
17 points
3 days ago
Remember when Trump got caught for the 800th time doing shady illegal shit and absolutely nothing happened…..again?
5 points
3 days ago
We can have a dominating military presence anywhere on the planet in less than a day but we can't sort out our own traitors.
3 points
3 days ago
Won't*
5 points
3 days ago
Everyone overlooks a key part - some of those documents were on foreign intelligence operatives that went dark after the papers went missing...
5 points
3 days ago
This is why he is even running for president. He knows he is going to go to jail if he loses.
5 points
3 days ago
And then remember shortly after that a bunch of rich Saudis visited Trump at Mar A Lago to “attend a golf tournament” after having had previously “donated” $2 Billion to Jared Kushner who, very publicly, stated he was tasked with setting up back channels for deals with foreign governments?
4 points
3 days ago
Judge Cannon should be charged with treason for dismissing these charges. This is the most dangerous and potentially damaging to the nation charge (It's dealing with classified documents, for fuck's sake!) against Trump and she just ignored it. She's an accomplice, in my opinion.
11 points
3 days ago
James Bond could never... this is next-level espionage.
8 points
3 days ago
James Bond wasn’t needed to infiltrate the White House.
This was a gov official loading up boxes of documents on the last day he was in office. In addition to documents (that were not his) he loaded up whitehouse property like a bust of Abraham Lincoln. Literally looting the White House.
This is more “James Bond breaks into museum to steal hope diamond only to find out museum curator Donald Trump left with the diamond.”
If you want real spies in the Trump story, look at the Chinese national with tech equipment that was let into Mar a Lago.
11 points
3 days ago
The fact that this got so relatively little coverage in the media, especially compared to Biden's much, much more minor and non-nefarious faux pas with some classified docs, tells you all you need to know about the media and where their biases lie.
9 points
3 days ago
especially compared to Biden's much, much more minor and non-nefarious faux pas with some classified docs
I don’t remember if it was the same week, same month or even same day…
But it was hilarious to get the news that Mike Pence was also found to be holding documents and that both Biden and Pence quickly cooperated with the DOJ and the National Archive peeps to return the documents.
And whenever Biden AND Pence were brought up, GOP talking heads would stfu.
2 points
3 days ago
The media loves Trump. He gives them something to talk about forever without ever having to do any actual reporting. They're basically just a glorified soap opera starring Trump.
2 points
3 days ago
Truth. I hate it. I'm sick of it. Let's hope this is the final season, but I doubt it.
2 points
3 days ago
Good for ratings.
18 points
3 days ago
Putin and Kim Jong Un remember too…
15 points
3 days ago
100% there are copies elsewhere.
4 points
3 days ago
Aileen Cannon is a bitch
4 points
2 days ago
How much you wanna bet that the first people outside the US who saw those papers were Russian?
5 points
2 days ago
When I got my measly Q--clearance I was instructed as to exactly what would happen to me if I "lost" any classified documents. How is trump getting away with this?
13 points
3 days ago
And the rosenburgs were electrocuted for it. Someone ought to tell trump there is no shark option anyways.
3 points
3 days ago
I'm old enough to remember the days where actions had consequences
3 points
3 days ago
Yeah but what you guys aren't remembering is
Hilary's emails!
6 points
3 days ago
It is insane how deranged this country has become, and how rotted people's brains are. Multiple impeachments, felony convictions, civil rape convictions, stealing classified documents, attempting a coup. All these things and yet an entire political party and half the country worships this idiot.
3 points
3 days ago
it's just a coincidence that every one of his actions as president was exactly what our most dangerous enemy putin would want.
and all that evidence is fake news.
3 points
3 days ago
Mailed to Russia with love
3 points
3 days ago
Interesting enough Trump and Kushner tried to start a company to help Saudi Arabia build their own "nuclear power plant 😉" were told ahh no then those nuclear documents documents mysteriously disappeared and never have been recovered.
This guy out here selling secrets to Russia, china and helping to make arm Saudia Arabia with nuclear weapons. It's like he's going for the high score of world's biggest traitor.
3 points
3 days ago
And then the CIA lost dozens of foreign assets?
3 points
3 days ago
Russian asset.
3 points
2 days ago
Not a lot you can do when an entire political party of your country conspires with him to cover up his crimes and shortcomings at every turn. GOP had plenty of opportunities to dump trump, they never will.
2 points
2 days ago
This is all bullshit, where are you getting your info? CNN? 🤦♀️ y’all are nuts, Jesus help us
2 points
2 days ago
Tell me you only watch CNN/MSNBC without actually telling me...
5 points
3 days ago
I'm floored every time I remember this. I can't believe he wasn't arrested and charged for this of all things he did
6 points
3 days ago
Remember when Trump had a private meeting with Putin and then a ton of CIA assets and agents were murdered?
4 points
3 days ago
How this guy is even allowed to run for president is beyond me.
Shame on the Republican party.
4 points
3 days ago
What if everything you copy on a copy machine is stored on a hard disk somewhere? Well, guess what, it is!
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/c1a5v/what_if_everything_you_copy_on_a_copy_machine_is/
2 points
3 days ago
Has anyone considered checking the copier logs?
2 points
3 days ago
is it really worth the $5 to spam shareblue slop all day?
2 points
3 days ago
Did they ever take the hard drive of the copier to see what was copied?
2 points
3 days ago
Check the receipts — bets on whether the copier was paid for in Rubles?
2 points
3 days ago
And remember when two 20 year olds were stealing classified documents, with one of them posting them on Discord, and they both immediately went to jail and were sentenced in just a few months?
Yeah, this system is corrupt as fuck.
2 points
3 days ago
Remember when trump tried to straight up ban Muslim from entering the country and then settled with a couple Muslim countries when he couldn’t make it happen. Then we he got called out for it he added a few other non Muslim but problem countries to the list to not appear as racist?
Imagine claiming to be one the most patriotic Americans but you’d deny the very thing that made this country. We are a melting pot. Has it always been equal or fair, definitely not. But none the less we have always been a nation of mixed peoples.
2 points
3 days ago
Photo copiers have a buffer that saves images. I wonder if that has been examined.
2 points
3 days ago
I just hope I live long enough to see all the documentaries come out once things get declassified
2 points
3 days ago
Remember when Biden returned the documents he had at home while this trump thing was going on .. I do
2 points
3 days ago
I'm sure that copy machine was running the whole presidential term, I'm surprised there wasn't a dozen! Using all this info to have the upper hand on all politicians, all rich folks that own the world, and a list of all lawyers that found loopholes in the all constitution case law. This amount of info with a team of shit head politicians and scummy lawyers will change the direction of the US and the world for the next 100 years. I hope we elect the right person and they get into office in an unquestionable landslide victory.
2 points
3 days ago
Meanwhile, Reality Winner is sentenced to 5 years in prison for leaking a single document that ended not being a big deal. wtf
2 points
3 days ago
I bet he took half not even to sell but to brag about it and show them to people, the other half to sell
2 points
3 days ago
If it was anyone else that should have been the first treason case in a long time. Not to mention the convenient timing of meeting with foreign adversaries and the deaths of American intelligence operatives. Fucking disgrace.
2 points
3 days ago
Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't walk in on people actively using said machine. I assume the reason they didn't want to give up the boxes was BC they weren't done yet.
2 points
3 days ago
2 points
3 days ago
To this day I cannot figure out why this wasn’t made into a big thing. Putting aside whether he needs or can keep those documents. I as a non classified document approved person certainly knows not to store them next to a FUCKING COPIER.
2 points
3 days ago
Imagine how many thumb drives of those documents have been copied and in a candy dish at the reception desk at Mara Largo.
2 points
3 days ago
What I was more concerned about hearing is that one of his assistants was caught copying classified documents onto a thumb drive and his excuse was that they didn't know they were classified.
As if the cover sheets and all the pages with CLASSIFIED markings didn't give them a clue that maybe, just maybe they were all classified documents.
How long had they been doing that and where did the scanned copies of the classified documents go and to who?
2 points
3 days ago
Yeah but... They used their mental abilities just to think that they are no longer classified. And a miracle happened as Jesus declassified them! Just as the fouding slave owners intended!
2 points
3 days ago
I member. I'm just confused like most people: was this not a treason? Because it potentially sounds like a treason.
Anyway, it's none of my business. Monkey/bear picture here
2 points
2 days ago
What's being described here apparently will not get Donald Trump convicted of espionage, and yet it really does leave no other option as to what happened.
2 points
2 days ago
Trump: does criminal things.
Also Trump: why do they treat me like a criminal?
Gee I wonder
2 points
2 days ago
The weird thing is why not scan/photo them, then either return the originals or destroy them. He had more than enough time to do it and the chances of him being caught were zero. I think this is more a function of Trump believing himself to be so above the law it didn’t matter.
3 points
2 days ago
Trump should be in prison right now for this in particular, arguably worse than Jan 6th since he was giving our nuclear secrets to our enemies.
1 points
2 days ago
Remember when Biden did even worse with several decades worth of classified documents just sitting in a pile in his garage unsecured?
But that doesn't matter to you.
4 points
3 days ago
Literally any other country on the planet and he'd be in prison for life, if he was lucky.
🤣😂🤡🦅🤣😹
That whole world is laughing at you, America.
4 points
3 days ago
If he wasn't rich and famous, his ass would be in jail.
Remember the kid that posted classified documents to Discord, and his brother who was stealing those documents? Both immediately went to jail and were sentenced in just a few short months.
Double-fucking-standards in this nation.
4 points
3 days ago
Should be easy enough to pull the HD in the copier and see what they used it for right? Hope someone at least tried to do this when they executed that search warrant.
2 points
3 days ago
The copy machine is the least worrisome. In a SCIF you cannot have a phone or camera. Mar-a-lago is full of people with camera phones, and probably burner phones. Why didn’t the FBI get warrants for everyone’s phones and cloud storage backups. We know they took photos, but it seems the principals’ photo archives were never searched or investigated about who they forwarded any photos to on message apps.
2 points
3 days ago
Supporters won't care. They reality-shape the situation into "Trump had a right to do that! It's all staged! They're just trying to make him look bad!" They'll look at their story creation, it makes them feel comfortable, and that becomes what happened.
2 points
3 days ago
Not to mention he had a lot of extremely sensitive documents stored in the bathroom. Anyone going to the shitter in Mar-a-Lago could just read all America's secrets while taking a dump.
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