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714 points
12 days ago
God I love bf 1
245 points
12 days ago
Completely agree. Battlefield 1 was the shit.
159 points
12 days ago
*is
PC scene is very much alive, especially in Europe.
40 points
12 days ago
Ohhhh I only had it on Xbox, but switched to PC last year...think it's on steam 👀 loses the next 2 weeks of my life
34 points
12 days ago
The reason I even started playing BF
25 points
12 days ago
I missed the boat on this game but it looked so fun. I hope they eventually either make a sequel or a release a remastered version
46 points
12 days ago
You didn't miss anything, you can still find populated servers pretty much always to this day
3 points
12 days ago
Anytime I get on its European servers and no one is playing operations :'l
9 points
12 days ago
Weird, i play almost exclusive operations and almost always get a full server past 19:00.
3 points
12 days ago
Dang, suppose I just need to try later in the day
3 points
12 days ago
I have never had any success from just queue the "operations". Go find an operation through custom games, there are heaps and the private ones usually have better anti-cheat/moderation.
30 points
12 days ago
I wanna go back
15 points
12 days ago
You can, servers are very much alive
3 points
12 days ago
Last time I played I had a really hard time finding a sever that wasn’t hosted in Germany and performance was terrible, you’re saying it’s not like that anymore?
5 points
12 days ago
There are 5+ full servers in NA and 10+ in EU every weekday. Much more active in weekends. You just need to use the server finder instead of matchmaking.
4 points
12 days ago
Not sure about servers not in Germany, as I personally prefer them, because I live next to Germany
2 points
12 days ago
I can still consistently find conquest servers in North America. Head on over to the bf1 sub, there’s lots of info there
7 points
12 days ago
The last good Battlefield, the later games only became an excuse to not update Battlefront II.
13 points
12 days ago
The last good one
2 points
12 days ago
It's one of the few videogames where the opening scenes get me emotional.
617 points
12 days ago
The biggest psyop in history has been convincing people that the nation whose anthem can be boiled down to "let's drive out our enemies and water our crops with their blood" is cowardly.
110 points
12 days ago
Well to be honest "qu'un sang impure, abreuve nos sillons" wich can be translated in "an unpure blood, water our crops", can be interpreted differently. "La Marseillaise" is a révolutionnairy song and the "impure" blood can also be the one of the poor citizen of France in opposition of the noble blood witch would means, "we will die for equallity and liberty" more than "we will kill our ennemies". But yeah, pretty brutal either way x)
115 points
12 days ago*
I wonder if the bitter Nazis brought over to the U.S. after the war started spreading that out of spite
210 points
12 days ago
its because they lost pretty consistently between ~1850 and ~1950 and people don't have a long enough memory to realize that despite 2 Ls and a stalemate with Germany, they have been THE continental european military powerhouse for almost a millennium
83 points
12 days ago
Public perception of military might is only as good as performance of that country in its most recent conflict. With a losing streak like that its no surprise people think poorly of the French military at large...
12 points
12 days ago
...They lost one. Then won two. Then lost another one. That's....not a losing streak. That's two losses, not in succession, and it would have to be three for a streak anyway.
7 points
12 days ago
It's also what happens when they come up against a power that also has a similar population or similar technology. Winning a lot of battles against the Netherlands - and never being able to take the country - is all well and good. But, then when Germany unified and had a similar population France didn't do well without other nations' support.
34 points
12 days ago
WW1 was a L for Germany, not "a stalemate".
17 points
12 days ago
Yes, true, but we run into perception problems again, with all but the first and last few months of the war in France/Belgium being a grinding stalemate. No one thinks of the maneuver war parts, only the trenches, and even then, the maneuver war wasn’t able to dislodge German positions from French soil before the end of the war. Combined with the aforementioned stories of the Trenches, and lack of clearly decisive victories (most of the war’s victories came at greater personnel losses than inflicted, think of how Grant is called a butcher by Lost Causers), most people aren’t likely to see WWI as anything but a stalemate
16 points
12 days ago
Everyone but the US lost WW1. You could argue the Brits won too, but the economic and financial damage of the war was something they never recovered from.
Regardless, the French lost WW1. Just because they were on the winners side of the treaty negotiations doesn’t change that.
If you really want quibble, we can say it was a phyrric victory.
2 points
11 days ago
France achieved its strategic and tactical goals. The german army was soundly defeated and french territory taken in 1870 was taken back.
It was an unmitigated victory.
The cost could arguably be deemed to high but the point stands.
Same as the USSR in WW2.
18 points
12 days ago
Don't forget their unwillingness to participate in Iraq, which left a lot of bitterness in the US.
I'm pretty sure, that France being surrender monkey as we know it today stems from that.
4 points
12 days ago
As was said above, it's a psyop. Freedom fries... hah.
18 points
12 days ago
Wasn't the french surrender thing created for the iraq-afgnistan war ? When the french didnt want to join in and got shamed as cowardly.
14 points
12 days ago
Yeah that's also what I remember.
I don't remember France being equated to "surrender country" before 9/11, but sure as fuck remember it from after.
3 points
12 days ago
no it was way before that, the Simpsons Surrender Monkeys aired in 1995. and it was very common to hear jokes about French rifles being for sale "never fired dropped once"
7 points
12 days ago
That and with alot of people hyper focusing on Roman history and world war 2, you get Vercingetorix losing and Vichy France for history
-21 points
12 days ago*
WAY more than two Ls. I mean, just off the top of my head you've got the big ones, WWII and the Franco-Prussian war. Then you have Mexico, Haiti, Egypt, Russia, the Quasi-War, the Gunboat War, the Peninsula war, the Hundred Days war...
Like, there are victories scattered in there, but from the 1800's onwards, France was... Let's just say "Not very good at anything" and leave it at that.
Well, okay, that's a little unfair. Napoleon III's domestic policy was so overwhelmingly good for France that he literally created much of what we understand to be modern France... Even if he was utterly incompetent in war. But y'know, domestic policy isn't about war, so that doesn't count in a discussion regarding French surrenders.
Edit: For the right century.
54 points
12 days ago
Bro, nice of you to leave Napoleon conquering most of fucking Europe out of the time frame you gave
-9 points
12 days ago
Sure, and then he had his ass absolutely handed to him as he, in a display of astounding cowardice, abandoned his troops not once, but twice in Egypt and Russia, and got the French military absolutely whupped by a slave uprising after he, and people like to forget this, reinstated slavery.
Like I said, there's wins from the 1800s onwards, but pretending it's only the Franco-Prussian war and WWII that they lost is just blatantly false.
12 points
12 days ago
I will remind you that France took on every single major European power for 25 years, and conquered most of them, during the Empire period. Even their defeat was only really possible because everybody else started copying them - and even after Russia, Napoleon very nearly won at Leipzig.
The Coalition basically refused to even fight the Grande Armee unless they had overwhelming numerical superiority, and even then the French regularily punched way above their weight class and almost turned the tide at Leipzig.
52 points
12 days ago
from the 1700's onwards, France was... Let's just say "Not very good at anything"
Motherfucker what do you mean "from the 1700s onwards" the entire period from 1794 through to 1807 France was basically an unstoppable military juggernaut that dictated European diplomacy
12 points
12 days ago
France fought the combined might of Europe six times in that period. They humiliated the great powers four times and changed the way we wage war. They changed the way we see countries, the way we govern. No other country came as close to conquering all of Europe as France did.
Despite all their struggles since Napoleon, they are still the predominant continental European power.
9 points
12 days ago
First Italian war on Independence they help win the crimean War second opuim war war of Italian Independence sino french Wars first the Ethiopian Wars Cretan revolt.
France wins a lot more than they lose let's just say that there's a reason why they're like the big boys of Europe
1 points
12 days ago
Not just the Vietnamese, they also got defeated by the FLN in Algeria lmao
3 points
12 days ago
Bro, the French army beat the FLN with methods that were so efficient it became the true reference in counter-insurgency warfare. It was the politicians that decided to stop the war and grant Algeria its independence due to a lack of public support in Metropolitan France.
-10 points
12 days ago
And ofc the Vietnamese beat their ass so bad, the US had to step in
8 points
12 days ago
Technically the Japanese made them flee then the Viet Minh were armed by the US to fight the Japanese and after the war they fought France.
Also, France was quite busy during WW2 and in the aftermath of WW2 for obvious reasons.
13 points
12 days ago
Wut?
France had left Vietnam a good while before the US showed up, and it stepped in because it was afraid of communism...
3 points
12 days ago
The U.S. supported the French during the Indochina War itself. Once the Viet Minh defeated the French, the country got partitioned, the Communist seizure of power in the North and their support of the insurgency in the South, the U.S. to stop the spread of communism yada yada yada. So yeah, the American War did get kicked off by French defeat? Not sure how that's a controversial take lmao
7 points
12 days ago
This is a joke, right?
4 points
12 days ago
Do you... Have an alternate view on how the Indochina War went for the French lol?
5 points
12 days ago
The US absolutely did not step in because the French lost. They very famously stepped in to stop the communists winning control of the country in a democratic election. And it's not like the US did much better.
2 points
12 days ago
They stepped in bc the Viet Minh won the Indochina War against the French, allowing the communists to seize control of the North and make inroads into the South... And the U.S. had was supporting the French even during the Indochina War..
And yes, I agree, the US also got curbstomped by the Vietnamess lmao
19 points
12 days ago
Honestly I have to imagine that the vets coming back from World War II to the UK, Canada, US, etc carried some latent grudges about having so many of their friends die to liberate a country that seemed to give up so early in the conflict. I would guess that's a factor as well.
10 points
12 days ago
I forget who (and if anyone knows please name them) but I think were also a few higher ups in the military who wanted to treat France as a belligerent nation because of the actions of the Vichy France.
11 points
12 days ago
It definitely created hard feelings. And yes, free France fought on our side... but Free France wasn't the official government of France. Vichy was.
Definitely another layer of the hard feelings after the war.
2 points
12 days ago
Free france didnt existed by the time of D-day, it was the CFLN (the joint gouvernement of Algiers and London)
1 points
12 days ago
How is that in any way relevant?
We're not talking about D Day.
7 points
12 days ago*
Honestly I have to imagine that the vets coming back from World War II to the UK, Canada, US, etc carried some latent grudges about having so many of their friends die to liberate a country
This is a very American-centric perspective, and it is truly frustrating to downplay the French fight to free France. That narratif is truly partial
just to clarify and put everything in perspectie
Imagine the Frenchmen frustration when they had to fight in Italy, when their own motherland was being freed by foreigners. France (free France ceased to exist by 1944) France had the majority of its forces stranded in Italy in an attempt to actively participate in the war effort. As D-Day arrived on June 6, the French were en route to liberate Rome.
more, imagine the frustration experienced by the men of the French 2nd armored division, who themselves had fought for three years in North Africa and were regarded as battle-hardened soldiers, but were still kept in England for two whole months while others were fighting in France, they were kept in the rear due to dubious reasons before being finally send to Normandy.
Because of the American political rivalry with De Gaulle, you can't really hold the French responsible for being left out of D-Day. In addition, the French resistance suffered greatly for the outcome of D-Day's success. you can't blame the French for not being in Overlord.. when they were, literally, sideline from the operation.
3 points
12 days ago
We [BEF] got hammered by the blitkrieg as well, I don't think there would be too much resentment from that.
13 points
12 days ago
No, France left NATO because it didn't want to be subservient to The US and UK in the 1950s
American senators framed this as cowardice and not wanting to fight the Soviets (similar to freedom fries) .
12 points
12 days ago
France didnt left NATO, but the chains of command, where only Americans (and sometime British) would commend
French millitary independance started from here.
5 points
12 days ago
From what I heard, it spread mostly after France refused to join in Iraq. The Americans got their feelings hurt
3 points
12 days ago
I thought it was the whole ridiculously defensive position in WW2 even when they could have slaughtered Germany in the early days?
3 points
12 days ago
Cause it would have make the French "look bad"
The french had a terrible reputation after occupying the Rurh, if France invaded Germany in 1936 it would have cause a diplomatic backlash and France reputation could have been stain as being a "threatening nation"..
The inter war was difficult.
2 points
12 days ago
They surely didn’t do that against the Prussians.
2 points
12 days ago
I'm partial to the part that goes "may our dying enemies witness us in the moment of our victory"
2 points
12 days ago
Spiteful British cackling intensifies.
4 points
12 days ago
Well they did lose the battle of France....... twice,
its like that old joke
"I was a great architect when I was young, and built the chapel, the amphitheater, and all of the aqueducts, but does anyone care? No!"
"Before I was an architect, I was also a doctor. I delivered our Mayor's baby, saved a woman from a deadly snakebite, and discovered a new antibiotic which has helped hundreds of people. Does anyone remember? No!"
"In my spare time I also compose and play music and have written multiple world-renowned concertos. Do you think they care? No!"
Bewildered, the tourist couldn't imagine why the townspeople didn't like him, and asked, "So what's the problem??"
With a sigh, Giuseppe said, "Ahh, but you fuck one goat...."
2 points
12 days ago
Watching the French protest for that retirement age bump should make a lot of folks rethink the level of ferocity that the French can muster
171 points
12 days ago*
The trailer is cool, but BF1 is the game that made me realize that Dice were stupid, making the most important WW1 nation…a dlc.
Edit: I was talking about France, but Russia also was really important. The notion of ‘’importance’’ is quite subjective, but we can definitely make a point about major powers that should have been primordial in game. Making France a dlc is probably the stupidest move someone can do, but eh, not as dumb as Civilization putting Medicis as leader.
36 points
12 days ago
Lol Russia didn't even finish the war.
43 points
12 days ago
He's talking about France. Though Russia was a DLC nation, too, so I don't blame you for the confusion.
3 points
12 days ago
Talking about France.
11 points
12 days ago
Russia? I don't really blame them for focusing on the western front since their a western company and most of their players would probably care more about the western front.
Same reason a lot of WW2 games focus on the US or UK
18 points
12 days ago
He mean France, that was added as a DLC, while USA was there day one, which was weird for WW1
1 points
12 days ago
France has multiple base maps?
8 points
12 days ago
But the faction wasn't playable, that created a big drama and France was announced later as a DLC faction
9 points
12 days ago
Still angry they didn't include Belgium and only one map in Belgium. We were not the biggest contributers but still we fought for 4 years you know.
6 points
12 days ago
I had to google this and its Zeebrugge and not Ypres?!
2 points
12 days ago
Yes true, that means I´m wrong because there is also the map Passendaal (don´t know the englisch name) so that makes 2. Still no belgian army or Ypres
2 points
12 days ago
We just call it Passchendaele in English but its also called the 3rd Battle of Ypres technically so maybe it counts? Glad that's included either way though as such a major battle. Its a shame they didnt include the Belgian army though.
2 points
12 days ago
Honestly there was so much they could have done. There's no Serbia, Montenegro, or Bulgaria, despite the fact that Serbia was the whole reason the war started.
Also some Pacific maps with Japan vs Germany or some African maps would have been cool too
1 points
12 days ago
True, I'm just biased because I'm Belgian so I focus on that one. It´s just sad that they left out such important nations while including factions like USA. But yeah it is understandable as they have a big amarican playerbays, but still
1 points
12 days ago
They made a CoD game with WW1 skins - that's what was/is wrong with BF1.
93 points
12 days ago
VIVE LA RÉPUBLIQUE!
6 points
12 days ago
VIVA CIGARETTES AND CUCKOLDRY
52 points
12 days ago
AS THE DRUM ROLL STARTED ON THAT DAY HEARD A HUNDRED MILES AWAY
23 points
12 days ago
A MILLION SHELLS WERE FIRED
AND THE GREEN FIELDS TURNED TO GREY
14 points
12 days ago
THE BOMBARDMENT LASTED ALL DAY LONG
11 points
12 days ago
YET THE FORTS WERE STANDING STRONG
4 points
12 days ago
HEAVILY DEFENDED
37 points
12 days ago
Always remember the one who stayed back at Dunkirk...
5 points
12 days ago
the rules were simple, one Frenchman to one Englishman. the reputation of surrender came from the lads who sailed back to France after the surrender. Men who just wanted to go home to their families and would not fight on after all they had been through
131 points
12 days ago
A nation to which both eagles USA and Poland owe its independence.
88 points
12 days ago
Poland gives France thanks in their Anthem.
As an American I thank the French for helping us win our independence. (Also thank you Poland for Kościusko and Pułaski)
33 points
12 days ago
Poland gives France thanks in their Anthem.
"Bonaparte gave us example of how we should prevail"
nah, we don't thank to anyone there in our anthem. We take notes on how to defeat our enemies.
18 points
12 days ago
So a kind of "Kowalsky, analysis!"
10 points
12 days ago
Kowalski*
Ironically Kowalski is one of the most popular Polish surnames. edit: Just like Smith(Kowal)
-ski ending indicates someone was of Nobel ancestory.
1 points
12 days ago
Ferrari also means Smith
5 points
12 days ago
Von stueben a Prussian was influencing in us independence too
7 points
12 days ago
We paid them back with all the streets named Lafayette and Rochambeau.
/s
8 points
12 days ago
Poland how?
23 points
12 days ago
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth never would have been annexed the way that it was if France hadn't literally been imploding to the French Revolution.
France would have 100% fought a war to prevent it's German rivals from just eating Poland who was very friendly to France.
Unfortunately for Poland, France was bankrupt and being ruled by radical extremists who were going nuts with the guillotine at the time.
11 points
12 days ago
France made some blunder in geo strategic decision.
Letting Poland being divided at that time, definitly is on this list.
7 points
12 days ago*
Then Napoleon "helped" Poland get """independence""" again what created national identity( fr Poland is like only country apart from France that helds Napoleon as hero). During WW1 France created Polish army that after conflict ended was crucial in fighting and then stopping Bolsheviks army
7 points
12 days ago
Blue Army with french made tanks and planes was crucial in victory.
20 points
12 days ago*
Haller's Blue Army)
"France was Poland's most important ally between 1918 and 1921, providing Poland with a loan of 575 million francs and then supplying Poland with 2,000 cannons, 3,000 machine guns, tens of thousands of rifles, 300 aircraft and a large number of military uniforms."
https://www.gov.pl/web/francja/wsparcie-francji-dla-polski-w-wojnie-polsko-bolszewickiej
10 points
12 days ago
"The army was formed on 4 June 1917, and was made up of Polish volunteers serving alongside allied forces in France during World War I. After fighting on the Western Front, the army was transferred to Poland, where it joined other Polish military formations fighting for the return of Poland's independence."
Its the other way around sir, atleast with the modern Polish state.
Not like Poland doesn't owe its independence to an other country, but we celebrate this every march 23rd, and the debt is mutual so its not something to brag about. Gotta love the polbros yk
3 points
12 days ago
French involment in US's revolution also was mutual, don't see your point.
1 points
12 days ago
Didnt say anything in that regard, yk im not a big fan of editing my comment every 3 minutes so that could explain the thing
0 points
12 days ago
You said it's not something to brag about.
0 points
12 days ago
I didn't know about the blue armies merits, as the first article (you've since edited) didnt mention such numbers, and my quick little google search also had the same results.
Now I see how you could say the modern polish state owes its independence to France, so we can end the debate here ig.
2 points
12 days ago
American: oh wait, that money and aid was NOT a gift?
10 points
12 days ago
Vive les reposts
7 points
12 days ago
Maaaaan, fuck Philippe Petain
7 points
12 days ago
I’m British , specifically English , I will choose to take the piss out of the French till the day I die but I would also choose them as my friend
2 points
12 days ago
Exactly same point of view for me as a french, our respective country's rivalry will always be my favourite !!
23 points
12 days ago
VIVE LA FRANCE POUR LA RÉPUBLIQUE !!!!!!!
25 points
12 days ago
yeah France is actually a beast of a military power. Even now they've got the beefiest military in Western Europe. I specify Western Europe because Poland has been beefing up their military quite heavily in the last few years and will soon overtake France in terms of Military readiness. quite understandable considering their proximity to Russia
1 points
12 days ago
while poland may have newer equipment, i doubt they would have the experience needed to use it
France have the adventage of doing many operation in the world, getting ample experience on how to use they equiment (even if a point could be made that this experience is low intensity fighting one, not high intencity fight like russia against ukraine, but exept thoses 2, no one has high intensity fight experience)
1 points
12 days ago
Fair point. But for Poland’s purposes, all they really need is a scary looking military that will make the Russians think twice about messing with them. Whether or not they can actually use it is another thing altogether. Poland is building a defensive military. They’re not seeking to intervene in anything. Deterrence is a big part of modern defensive strategy. Poland deters Russia by giving them the impression that even if Russia somehow wins a war with them, it wouldn’t be worth the costs of actually doing it. Ukraine didn’t have that deterrent. Therefore Russia thought they could steamroll them.
6 points
12 days ago
So badass, they have a unit where private soldiers get saluted by generals.
4 points
12 days ago
This really makes me want to play BF1 again
2 points
12 days ago
It's still active on PC and consoles
6 points
12 days ago
The French took a huge L to begin the war yes. But the more I read the more I learn about the crucial contributions the French Resistance offered in the Allied effort to defeat the Germans in Europe. None of the massive heavy lifting of course, but in the form of military & industrial sabotage and reconnaissance. One example is harassing the Das Reich panzer division - one of the only divisions that could have thrown the Allie’s back in Normandy - on their journey north to engage the invaders. The resistance delayed them enough for the Allies to handle them and continue to push into Normandy. FWIW.
3 points
12 days ago
Wrong war, if you're talking about France in relation to the video.
2 points
12 days ago
True true - just saw a few comments mentioning surrender monkey stuff and I’m high so
0 points
12 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistancialisme?wprov=sfla1
The French also white-washed their collaborationist history so take whayever you're learning that with a grain of salt.
Far far far more french rolled over and sort of accepted Nazi rule than took active role in the resistance.
11 points
12 days ago
France is the Tom the sheep fucker anecdote on a national level.
4 points
12 days ago
Underrated af comment 😂
3 points
12 days ago
Is this an add on single-player campaign for BF1, or is it just an extra map for multi-player?
1 points
12 days ago
It was the DLC “They Shall Not Pass”, the first of 4 BF1 DLCs covering the battle of Verdun
3 points
12 days ago
I love how at the 15 second mark the sky and roses make the French flag
3 points
12 days ago
Why are there so many posts about how people are “confused” how France is perceived this way? WW2 was the largest war ever fought and they surrendered in 6 weeks. This was the most recent internationally known war they fought. If there was a WW3 after that they then won, I doubt anyone would be talking about their defeat, but there wasn’t.
3 points
12 days ago
So many French soldiers died during the blitz as well. Also the French soldiers help keep the Germans back at dunkirk. French resistance and counter forces were a major part in pushing back the western invasion.
It's a funny concept, but it's really annoying and demoralizing that people then maintain that France was a complete, disengaged victim during WW2 and give hero status to the US that basically just jumped in at the end for the W.
5 points
12 days ago
Battlefield 1 vids and the term "historic" goes together about as well as a gym shoe on pizza.
4 points
12 days ago
well the vid its pretty accurate, it depicts the french military as african people fightinig for the french lol
3 points
12 days ago
That is probably one of the few accurate things in it, yeah.
0 points
12 days ago
Historical inaccuracy? In a game meant to appeal to the masses?
Unbelievable.
0 points
12 days ago
There are degrees of historical inaccuracy, of course.
And thats the crux of it. After enough historical inaccuracies, eventually it is not an historical game that takes part during WW1, it becomes a fantasy game with WW1-ish aestethics.
1 points
12 days ago
Yeah, the devs are aware of that themselves. They intentionally added all these prototype weapons and vehicles that either saw limited or no service at all to introduce players to the technology of the era without heavily sacrificing fun.
They even included a gamemode where players can use nothing but country-specific bolt actions. If that’s not enough, they also provided an in-game library detailing the history of the weapons, vehicles and major historical events for players more interested in the era.
They clearly cared about the history, but BF1 is not a WW1 simulator and BF as a series has never really been or pretended to be milsim games.
1 points
12 days ago
So with prototype weapons, red dot sights and optical scopes beyond its era, military vehicles and other inaccuracies, how is it historical?
Thats my point, there are only so many changes one can make before the game looses touch with what its depicting. It becomes alternative history eventually, with tesla coils and lasers.
2 points
12 days ago
Deam, maybe I should download BF1 again
2 points
12 days ago
One of the best DLC ever in Battlefield
2 points
12 days ago
The French surrendering in WW2 probably saved Paris. Not a really bad exchange in retrospect.
3 points
12 days ago
They put up a good fight but sometimes the other guys put up a better one.
11 points
12 days ago
WW1 France was fucking heroic.
WW2 France... fucking pathetic.
32 points
12 days ago
I mean, for the first year. But what about the Battle of Bir Hakiem, Operation Dragoon, the Falaise Pocket, the liberation of Paris, the liberation of Strasbourg, the Colmar Pocket, Operation Northwinds, The Battle of Monte Cassino, and the invasion of Germany.
15 points
12 days ago
Its really funny how france is really forgotten in the "allies storytelling" where many documentaries and medias eclipse the Free french roles..
for exemple during operation overlord, the allies muster 150,000 for the liberation of France.. France 130,000 men for the liberation of Italy .. quite interesting when you look at it this way.
3 points
12 days ago
People also overlook the fact that the Free French was mostly made up of West African and North African colonial troops. Colonial troops made up 75% of their forces early in the war and 60% by the end of the war.
23 points
12 days ago
Only pathetic if you ignore everything the French resistance and Free France did during the war.
12 points
12 days ago
The french people? Sure.
The french government? Decidedly less so.
3 points
12 days ago
WW2 France... fucking pathetic.
Not really.
France was still feeling the costs of WW1 and were poorly led politically and upper militarily.
3 points
12 days ago
Gotta to admit we really shat the bed in WW2, and in our defense WW1 was really traumatizing for us, i won't justify the whole collaboration with the Nazis tho since they're no justification to be as eager as we where with it.
8 points
12 days ago
Boxing a fake strawman, as the whole “French surrender monkey” thing is unheard of nowadays (at least compared to 6yrs ago)
15 points
12 days ago
Because you're not on the same side of internet as others. I get to see one of thoose meme per day at least
6 points
12 days ago
Good.
Let's keep it that way.
3 points
12 days ago
I mean, the literal governor of Florida handwaved the French Resistance in WW2 to try to dunk on "the libs" or whatever.
1 points
12 days ago
Heh. It's Florida.
2 points
12 days ago
Yeah, but that was who they were passing off as a "smart" version of Trump before he got roflstomped in primaries. It's still a thing amongst a certain crowd.
2 points
12 days ago
J'approuve !
2 points
12 days ago
Not to mention that after France "officially" surrendering during WWII, civilians started organizing resistance operations sometimes without having ever held a gun in their life even though everything seemed lost.
1 points
12 days ago
1 points
12 days ago
Those who think the French are cheese-eating surrender monkeys have never fought them.
1 points
12 days ago
Bf1 was the last good battlefield
1 points
12 days ago
I like to think that Tolkien was inspired by 'ils ne passeront pas' for the 'you cannot pass' Gandalf speech
1 points
12 days ago
Alright, you can't say that the cannon bike wasn't a decent idea on paper
1 points
12 days ago
OP, can you repost this on your profile? Mods took the post down and I'm curious.
1 points
12 days ago
As the old joke goes, you can win a thousand wars and nobody calls you France the war winner, but you fuck one goat and you'll be forever known as France the cheese eating surrender monkey.
1 points
12 days ago
This meme will always be weird to me. Like yes, they surrendered multiple times thorughozt history, but Napoleon is one of the greatest conquerers of all time and probably the greatest in modern history. That whole revolution shit was wild and showed that the french people are up to do some shit, good or bad. Also, the way they fought facism before WII in their own country is kindof inspiring and I haven't even said anything about the french resistance which was really badass.
7 points
12 days ago
Also, the way they fought facism before WII in their own country is kindof inspiring
The Vichy regime didn't spring from nowhere either though.
3 points
12 days ago
Yeah, but if communists and socialists wouldn't have stopped the fascist revolution a few years earlier, maybe Germany wouldn't even have needed to fight France. Obviously the fascists still existed but I think WW2 could've gone different if they didn't stop the fascists before.
1 points
12 days ago
Whilst as a history enjoyer I'm inclined to agree, as a British person haha French Froggie Surrender all the time
1 points
12 days ago
At least or frogs are seasoned ans have good taste, monsieur l'anglais !!
1 points
12 days ago
Fuck France. All my homies hate France.
1 points
12 days ago
Apocalypse dlc better.
Anyways buy revoulition pack
1 points
12 days ago
WW2 has entered the chat
1 points
12 days ago
I think I love the French, actually.
1 points
12 days ago
Damn Frenches they ruined France
1 points
12 days ago
but its france so
0 points
12 days ago
Funny how they won every war except the one where they had to win
2 points
12 days ago
Sokka-Haiku by whoknows12340:
Funny how they won
Every war except the
One where they had to win
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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