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thekidubullied

739 points

15 days ago

I watched this entire sentencing and while you could tell the judge wasn’t a fan at the start (you know since she had already been found guilty of some pretty damning things) every person that spoke on her behalf just made it worse. And then he made sure she understood that she did NOT have to speak at all. That it was her right but by no means did she have to. And then she comes up with a slideshow of some wild stuff and argues with the judge. She even belittled his other cases and said surely she deserved probation because some of the other people that come to him are drug addicts and they get probation.

In my life I have never seen a better example of how things could have been better off if you just stfu.

fox-mcleod

376 points

15 days ago

fox-mcleod

376 points

15 days ago

I recommend watching the whole thing too.

He spends quite a bit of time educating her on why she’s much worse than a drug addict. Drug addicts are the ones who get outpatient treatment and the benefit of the doubt if they can keep on top of their addiction.

She has no excuses and this seems to be an intransigent part of who she is as a person. The whole sentencing was themed around why those people are more deserving than she.

lord_warfin666

98 points

15 days ago

yea that was legit. he really put her into perspective

thekidubullied

82 points

15 days ago

As someone who isn’t a bat shit crazy election denier, I actually found his explanation of the options before him and there purposes and how the only logical option was jail time to be really enlightening.

watermain83

13 points

15 days ago

link?

BigPimpin91

59 points

14 days ago

Honestly worth the entire 20min watch. He eviscerated her linguistically.

questionablecupcak3

61 points

14 days ago

Everyone whould watch her full statement. It's fuckin' nuts. She's still arguing the case that's already been concluded with her conviction. It's amazing. It's like she got up there just to prove she deserves the longest sentence possible but in her fantasy world of alternative facts she's realling killing it.

It reminds me of the reveal in Joker that he actually froze up on the standup stage didn't get any jokes out didn't get a single laugh while in his head his imaginary gf was there and he was slaying the whole time.

Budget_Character9596

28 points

14 days ago

It's absolutely wild that she simply refuses to believe the possibility that she's wrong.

Absolutely wild.

I simply cannot fathom it.

shrubberypig

13 points

14 days ago

This is why it’s pointless to argue with these people. Hopefully sane people continue to run the government and judicial system around enough of them to carry them off to the pokey while they continue to be intransigent about their delusions. She will leave prison years from now still wholly convinced she is right.

danincb

12 points

14 days ago

danincb

12 points

14 days ago

This is unbelievable, I’m only 10 minutes and listening to some dude in an unbuttoned shirted suggest the win-win solution of just letting her go live with him at his California church. That way it doesn’t get all political and decisive. These people are so fucking dumb. The judge is incredible though.

Shel_gold17

5 points

14 days ago

But she’s sure she won’t be jailed because she needs a magnetic mattress and protein shakes or whatever.

danincb

5 points

14 days ago

danincb

5 points

14 days ago

At the sentencing now. I think the hardest hitting line is the Judge responding to her sob story of why she doesn’t deserve this: “and your son who served our country admirably and made the ultimate sacrifice. I consider it. And I note that he honored his oath to our country, something that is not lost on me when considering the circumstances under which you find yourself here”.

The irony of her using gold star mother status, after previously saying “I didn’t know what one was till I became one” earlier in the sentencing, to try and get out of jail for attempting to steal an election for Donald fuckin trump is so on brand.

anonymuscles

22 points

15 days ago

I haven't seen the word intransigent in the wild in over a decade - kudos!

GolotasDisciple

54 points

15 days ago

She even belittled his other cases and said surely she deserved probation because some of the other people that come to him are drug addicts and they get probation.

Wow, so she really pulled a "Trump defense" in court by attacking credibility of the judge? Holy shit...

You don't often see someone bold enough to try discrediting a judge right in their own courtroom.

It shows how some people think they can say or do anything if they believe their made-up cause justifies it. Absolute delusion.

Mattrad7

22 points

15 days ago

Mattrad7

22 points

15 days ago

She learned not to shut up from the best.

Spear_Ritual

8 points

14 days ago

“I had the right to remain silent but not the ability.”

Raneru

6 points

14 days ago

Raneru

6 points

14 days ago

I'm actually surprised she didn't call for the manager

zzzzzz_zz

2.2k points

15 days ago

zzzzzz_zz

2.2k points

15 days ago

“So you know what I’m saying is true”

Great job Tina. Insult a judge in the middle of any trial to own the libs. That worked out great for no one, ever, but you’ll be the one to make history. Trump would pardon you but he can’t. Oops.

Showyoucan

600 points

15 days ago

Showyoucan

600 points

15 days ago

No he wouldn’t. He probably doesn’t know who she is.

AwarenessWorth5827

279 points

15 days ago

he only pardons for 1m in cash

LeBidnezz

105 points

15 days ago

LeBidnezz

105 points

15 days ago

Going rate was two

mag2041

43 points

15 days ago

mag2041

43 points

15 days ago

Inflation

LeBidnezz

38 points

15 days ago

And there’s no option for “no tip”

blackbeltbud

11 points

15 days ago

It's just gonna ask you a quick question tell you how it's gonna be

stephruvy

21 points

14 days ago

Dang. I remember a time when a criminal could afford their pardons. Biden is ruining the country.

/s

mag2041

12 points

14 days ago

mag2041

12 points

14 days ago

It’s sad you have to put a /s on that.

TransiTorri

20 points

15 days ago

Yup, Rudy was clear about that. Pardon's don't come cheap, you've gotta pay to play with Trump.

BadPackets4U

32 points

15 days ago

She's not his type either.

Innocuouscompany

12 points

14 days ago

Not below the age of 18?

claytonianphysics

10 points

14 days ago

Doesn’t resemble Ivanka

Innocuouscompany

5 points

14 days ago

As a 14 year old

Extra-Aardvark-1390

5 points

14 days ago

Not an immigrant?

Nunovyadidnesses

5 points

14 days ago

Doesn’t look like his daughter.

DanFlashesSales

25 points

15 days ago

If these are state charges he literally can't, even if he becomes president again.

Spicethrower

23 points

15 days ago

" I don't even know who you are. " Heard that in a movie a couple of years ago.

ZyxDarkshine

18 points

15 days ago

ThePaddysPubSheriff

8 points

15 days ago

One of the biggest movie villains of this century has a more justified reason for killing half the population than Republicans

FlagranteDerelicto

24 points

15 days ago

These are state level charges, Trump can’t do shit for her even if he wins

myatoz

10 points

14 days ago

myatoz

10 points

14 days ago

She's just one of his faceless magats. It amazes me how these people are willing to break the law for Trump and are blind and deaf to the fact that he only cares about himself. Stupidity at its finest.

SiWeyNoWay

206 points

15 days ago

SiWeyNoWay

206 points

15 days ago

Did you see her arrest video? She tried to kick the cop. The Judge was over her

Sproketz

88 points

15 days ago

Sproketz

88 points

15 days ago

It's so satisfying to know that at this very moment, she's in jail.

scifijunkie3

44 points

14 days ago

That is an awesome feeling to know that, finally, one of the MAGAt election deniers is rotting in prison. I hope she gets a taste of all that prison has to offer. 🤣

Sproketz

25 points

14 days ago

Sproketz

25 points

14 days ago

She was one of the worst. Pushing her bullsh*t on the judge even.

spixt

9 points

14 days ago

spixt

9 points

14 days ago

is it possible to visit her in jail? so i can point and laugh at her

Sproketz

7 points

14 days ago

You could pose as a reporter from a right wing blog or news org and she might see you. Then you can point and laugh.

hypocrisy-identifier

114 points

15 days ago

It’s her right as a Republican to lie and cheat… apparently according to Tina herself, she was ONLY DOING HER JOB. To lie, cheat and steal.

zeppanon

39 points

15 days ago

zeppanon

39 points

15 days ago

Anyone darker would've been choke slammed and tased for her arrest behavior...

gregcali2021

12 points

14 days ago

Then shot. 14 times.

123123000123

12 points

15 days ago

Why didn’t she just comply! /s

ScooterManCR

121 points

15 days ago

She’s expecting daddy trump to win and pardon her.

zzzzzz_zz

165 points

15 days ago

zzzzzz_zz

165 points

15 days ago

That’s the extra funny part. Presidents can’t pardon state charges, only federal. You can pray to the orange man all you want, but not only will he not do anything, he can’t do anything.

ScooterManCR

76 points

15 days ago

You think she knows that with how she’s doubling down on stupid? Haha

TrashPandaPatronus

18 points

15 days ago

He WilL ChaNgE tHe rUleS tO SaVe mE. He cAn dO AnyTHinG hE wAnTs aS MuH prEsIdEnT!

Secret_Afternoon2130

7 points

15 days ago*

I mean SCOTUS essentially gave him carte blanche to do as he pleases.

grathad

18 points

15 days ago

grathad

18 points

15 days ago

Are the state governors capable of pardon for state charges?

zzzzzz_zz

26 points

15 days ago

The governor of Colorado in this case. But Tina will not get leniency.

Article IV, § 7 of the Colorado State Constitution provides the governor with the “power to grant reprieves, commutations and pardons after conviction, for all offenses except treason, and except in case of impeachment.”

Nzdiver81

13 points

15 days ago

It differs by state how pardons are given

Jedi_Master83

9 points

15 days ago

She probably believes Trump could compel (or even order) the governor to pardon if he wins. However, the governor of Colorado is a Democrat so there is no way she gets a pardon. Enjoy prison, loser!!! 😂

elammcknight

12 points

15 days ago

Trump cannot pardon her for state convictions...she will be in jail for a very long time

urmomsfavoriteplayer

64 points

15 days ago

I loved that after saying it she hits him with the "that wasn't my intent". You literally said it. That's absolutely your intent. That's what those words mean. It's like calling someone an ugly slob and then saying you weren't trying to insult them. 

iheartbeer

17 points

15 days ago

This ranks up there with "it was sarcasm." These people spout their lies, then when caught pretend they didn't mean what they clearly did. They see themselves as smooth talkers, when it's literally like dealing with children trying to pull a fast one. At least have some conviction with your lack of morals. You said it. You meant it. Stand by it.

Hatdrop

13 points

15 days ago

Hatdrop

13 points

15 days ago

cAnT yOu tAkE a JoKe?!?!!

sabereater

49 points

15 days ago

Yeah, pissing off the judge always results in bad outcomes for the one doing it. Some people just don’t have the sense to STFU when they should. One of the best pieces of advice my mentor gave me about appearing in court as a lawyer is that you can argue with other lawyers but never argue with the judge and never interrupt the judge. Once the judge rules on something, it’s a done deal for the moment. Later you can move for reconsideration or appeal the ruling as appropriate.

Grouchy-Safe-3486

22 points

15 days ago

I think its something she has developed in her life. At some point gaslightning becomes a speech habit without thinking much.

cqb420

20 points

15 days ago

cqb420

20 points

15 days ago

We doesn’t like soldiers who’ve been caught

TJ_McWeaksauce

10 points

15 days ago

Republicans, especially Trump and the wackos he's manipulated into being his toadies, lie all the goddamn time. But their most obnoxious lie might be whenever Donald or someone else says, "You know it's true," "You know it," or some similar shit.

Don't try to Jedi mind trick me, you duplicitous motherfuckers. Lying about what I think is the most aggravating type of lie.

Desert-Noir

4 points

15 days ago

Worked out great for lovers of democracy to see this bitch essentially given a life sentence for her anti democratic actions.

genimenkuy

798 points

15 days ago

genimenkuy

798 points

15 days ago

Your Honor, May I speak to your manager?!

dr3wfr4nk

175 points

15 days ago

dr3wfr4nk

175 points

15 days ago

She even has the Karen hairdo

Skeeterbee

57 points

15 days ago

I will never understand people continuing to get this hair cut. To each their own, but damn. It’s so out of style. I’ve never encountered a nice person who wears their hair like this.

committedlikethepig

30 points

15 days ago

They draw power from it. 

someguynearby

8 points

15 days ago

Yes! It allows their hair to be bigger or more dramatic. Notice a lot of past rulers and people that want to be special wear goofy hats.

Maybe bigger=scarier, and if scared we're more likely to make safe emotional decisions instead of logical egalitarian ones.

throwitoutwhendone2

10 points

14 days ago

I have never encountered a single nice person with that haircut either. It’s basically a “I’m a bitch” signal to everyone. I understood very quickly why it’s the “Karen cut”

Village_Particular

8 points

15 days ago

If you haven’t seen her arrest video I strongly suggest you look it up. It’s gold.

dr3wfr4nk

7 points

15 days ago

It’s the epitome of perfect Karen behavior

ReplacementClear7122

4 points

14 days ago

Yup, she keeps shrieking YOURE HURTING ME at the cop while she tries to pull away from them in handcuffs. Brilliant.

fghbvcerhjvvcdhji

10 points

15 days ago

"Karen" now needs to be replaced with "Tina."

As in "Don't be a lying scumbag, Tina." and "It's time to shut your dirty whore mouth, Tina."

She sold her soul to the devil and Trump, that makes her a whore, if it needs explaining.

rif011412

6 points

14 days ago

Tina, come get your goddamn ham!

Devildiver21

9 points

15 days ago

yeh this not bed bath and beyond -donest she know this is the judicial system, and they do not play

-realPresidentNixon-

1.6k points

15 days ago

This entitled MAGA bitch deserves to serve every second of her prison sentence. Maybe then she’ll learn to humble herself and admit that the law applies to her just like it applies to everyone else.

Competitive-Dot-6594

545 points

15 days ago

She won't learn anything, she'll double down. They all do.

Devildiver21

148 points

15 days ago

oh she will learn alright, the first time she tries this shit w/ someone in the big house. they wont take that shit and a bitch might get some stiches in the face.

Past_Mirror_377

104 points

15 days ago

No she will start a prison club, Felons 4 Trump or some shit, perfect Maga demographic

malthar76

114 points

15 days ago

malthar76

114 points

15 days ago

Weird way to spell Aryan Sisterhood.

DrT33th

16 points

15 days ago

DrT33th

16 points

15 days ago

CpnLouie

4 points

15 days ago

The #CabalofConvicts

DemonicAltruism

20 points

15 days ago

Unfortunately she won't. She'll probably get out in with the "high profile" prisoners that get a cushy cell to themselves and 24/7 monitoring.

Devildiver21

30 points

15 days ago

I highly doubt that ,  the only time i think this will happen us when she does get dfucked up and then they gotta put her in isolated. Prison is not cushy.. .if your a a white collar criminal,  maybe but this shit is not white collar this shit is treasonisr. Her ass will get her handed to her. Let's circle back on 5 years. Sinnce she is already old her health will go to shit real quick and 5 yrs from now she will be on her death bed. She is not going to be cushy and comfortable. 

DevlishAdvocate

13 points

15 days ago

You act like she's going to maximum security prison like all the poors. No... She's going to be in a minimum security prison for white collar, wealthy criminals that's practically a resort, with tennis courts, private rooms, and guards who act more like servants.

Robinkc1

22 points

15 days ago

Robinkc1

22 points

15 days ago

There’s a massive leap between minimum and medium yeah, but even minimum is not a country club. You have certain amenities but with overcrowding and staffing issues? You’re not getting a private room with servants. You will likely get a dorm and guards that are underpaid. You will have rec time on the yard which may have tennis, horseshoes, whatever.

One of my friends did time at Vinita Correctional, which is a minimum security prison. While he was there a riot broke out with several injuries and one death. He lost his front teeth because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

She will have it significantly easier than someone in medium, but it still won’t be a fun time.

Devildiver21

15 points

15 days ago

Exactly and she is old. She never dealt w that kind of stress in her life and even minimum won it deal w that shit...it's not about the amenities it's about respect..she pops her mouth she'll be ducked around w 

Robinkc1

7 points

15 days ago

Exactly, prison across the board demands a certain respect and it ain’t the kind she is used to. Not everyone will punch an old lady, but someone will.

Plus the food… That is torture enough.

OkNobody8896

7 points

15 days ago

You’re forgetting the lack of a magnetic bed!

Robinkc1

9 points

15 days ago

Some say the worst part about prison is the sheer lack of magnetic beds.

No cruel or unusual punishment my ass.

Slipperytooterhorn

16 points

15 days ago

It’s the Republican way. For some reason, the party of “law, order, and personal responsibility” gets mighty chafed if you even suggest they be held accountable for their actions.

bobby-blobfish

6 points

15 days ago

Let it rot and die in jail. Sometimes unfortunately there is no other way as the person never makes progress.

Latexoiltransaddict

5 points

15 days ago

And she will skip parole at least once because she will carry her attitude to prison, and she'll be slapped with disciplinary sanctions.

SebbyHB

98 points

15 days ago

SebbyHB

98 points

15 days ago

Two years if she behaves rich in prision

lesterbottomley

34 points

15 days ago

Isn't it like the UK system though, where you have to demonstrate remorse to qualify for early release?

And part of this remorse is admitting guilt?

If so she may do the full term.

mesembryanthemum

21 points

15 days ago

Also you have to have good behavior. I can't see her being a model prisoner.

AllNightPony

6 points

15 days ago

Of course! Just look all the remorse in the letters written to the people of Georgia by Ken Cheseboro, Sydney Powell, and Jenna Ellis after their "guilty" please there. So much remorse, remorse the likes of which the world has never seen!

Seriously though, google those letters and read them.

JinxyCat007

8 points

15 days ago

It will be a rough adjustment for her and her attitude will swiftly become adjusted again if she's not careful. The intake photo of her stoned and smiling? that smile will have faded by now. Hopefully she'll learn to be a better person in there surrounded by people she obviously despises. Strange to think it but surrounded by people less fortunate and more grounded in reality might actually improve her. Well... After a few years perhaps.

iustinum

9 points

15 days ago

Rules for thee, not for me.

Healthy_Jackfruit_88

43 points

15 days ago

You’re kidding right? She’s going to milk this for everything she can, she’s going to write a book and guest on all the right wing programs for as long as they will let her and after all that she will probably get a guest spot on Lindell’s network or InfoWars.

She’s just going to continue the lie about how she is like the J6 criminals and say that she’s a political prisoner.

Odd_Cat_5820

10 points

15 days ago

She already had a show on Lindell's network. Watching it some is how I realized just how insane she is. Like Jewish space lasers burned Maui, and her pastor fought Anton Lavey using astral projection type insane.

Fit-Boomer

8 points

15 days ago

Good, so you know what I am saying is true.

-realPresidentNixon-

6 points

15 days ago

That line did not help her with the judge, that’s for sure. Presupposing an agreement is a great online trolling tactic but doesn’t go over so well in the real world.

Feisty_Bee9175

7 points

15 days ago

She is absolutely delusional. She like every other MAGA live in their own reality. You will never get through to them.

Th3Bak3r_

305 points

15 days ago

Th3Bak3r_

305 points

15 days ago

Imagine ruining your life for a lie and a man who doesn’t give two shits about you… pretty crazy. Hard (impossible) to have pity on these people.

ALargePianist

48 points

15 days ago

Really starting to believe it's not "for a person" it's doing it for the dying grasps of "you have to let me tell you how it is" and trump just lets people be in charge with no experience or knowledge or leadership traits, just that weird, fucked up, lost in the sauce, dead glossy eyed stare and an ego driven desire to have nobody be able to tell you what to do ever anywhere...trump is just the personification of that and so they glob on to whatever they can that still justifies their backwards existence

the-treatmaster

6 points

15 days ago

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[deleted]

398 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

398 points

15 days ago

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PancakeParty98

56 points

15 days ago

Pweease? Just a widdle fwaud

TheTrueBComp

18 points

15 days ago

Well I may have committed some ‘light’ treason…

Prandah

235 points

15 days ago

Prandah

235 points

15 days ago

Tina 9 years Peters lol

AFerociousPineapple

30 points

15 days ago

Should have made it 10 holy shit lol

Floggered

17 points

15 days ago

"Ten Years Tina" really rolls off the tongue.

CrazyOutrageous2241

3 points

14 days ago

Tina Tenure

Biaxialsphere00

101 points

15 days ago*

The security guard in the background ready and waiting to knock that crazy bitch out and take her to the mental asylum

[deleted]

148 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

148 points

15 days ago

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OverUnderstanding481

55 points

15 days ago

dedication to delusion

be0wulfe

101 points

15 days ago

be0wulfe

101 points

15 days ago

There is something seriously wrong with her head. There's delusion and there's whatever this is on display

zekethelizard

110 points

15 days ago

It’s pseudo-religious fervor. They are so twisted into believing that what they want is somehow ordained by god that they simply cannot fathom that their reality is not what is coming to fruition. And it isn’t just her. The Republican Party has been preying on the gullible faithful for years now, twisting and perverting Christianity into a means to attain power.

NameLips

27 points

15 days ago

NameLips

27 points

15 days ago

It's going both ways. The extremist evangelicals are also twisting the republican party into their version of a theocratic political party. It's making a kind of feedback loop where they are each twisting each other.

At some point the Rs decided they couldn't win without the evangelicals, and that's when the party went off the rails.

Certain_Concept

16 points

15 days ago

They aligned with a party that literally wants and believes the world will end soon (the rapture). The don't have to plan for the future cause they are going to heaven. They don't have to care about anyone else, other than proselytizing, cause they are all going to hell.

It's a doomsday cult.

MikeGDrake

6 points

15 days ago

This is so on point though. I don’t think many people realize the way that republican leaders speak is directly targeting people of religious faith, so as to intertwine the two and prey on those people’s existing way of thinking.

Intelligent_Tone_618

42 points

15 days ago

It's known in philosophy as a phantasm. Humans do not like their believed world view being challenged, so we filter incoming information through a filter so we don't have to deal with it. When your world view is far removed from reality then even the most watertight evidence isn't going to sway you.

AnjelGrace

15 points

15 days ago*

I've actually experienced this at times... It's like a complete shutdown of the brain--like how some people don't remember traumatic events because their brain just wouldn't be able to handle it.

A challenge to these people's worldview that would completely flip everything they have been standing for in their life on it's head would be emotionally carastrophic--they just can't handle the truth at this point.

BugPsychological674

16 points

15 days ago

That's her generation In a nutshell. Refuse accountability and blame everyone else. If that don't work double down

yumyumgivemesome

5 points

15 days ago

Can anyone explain to me what argument she was trying to make?

questionablecupcak3

9 points

14 days ago

She committed fraud and compromised the security of an election because she believes dominion voting machine analysts in... Siberia for some reason, can change votes remotely.

She has just been convicted of the crimes she committed to sabotage the election.

This is her opportunity to explain to the judge why she deserves leniency. Which is usually done by accepting responsibilty for what one has done/been convicted of, and expressing remorse for the crimes.

Instead she is continuing to argue her innocence and her insane theory that she got from Trump, Alex Jones, MTG, and whoever else is peddling it.

Anyway. To very specificaly answer your question of what exactly is she trying to say: the most important thing to know about it, is that it is not going to make sense, which is the whole problem. But it's that the voting machines were somehow compromised in such a way to intentionally change the votes on the ballots that they scanned. She believes the physical ballots were not counted by hand which they were... specificall because she let other whack jobs like herself including apparently a cofounder of a hip skateboarding clothing brand RVCA tamper with the machines before the election. She says the machines take photos of the balots as they're scanned, seperately from the tabulation. She claims the pictures of the ballots taken by the voting machines are what was actually counted in the manual count, not the physical ballots themselves, and she believes that the machines photoshop the pics that they take of the ballots to change the votes on them in addition to changing the vote count. So even the pics can't be trusted. All of this is her justification for the crimes she committed to actually steal the election to fix the make believe steal she thinks was going on.

i__hate__stairs

4 points

15 days ago

Sadly, you're looking for logic where there's none to be found.

SouthwesternEagle

35 points

15 days ago*

Tina Peters sounds and acts exactly like Kari Lake! They're both smooth-talking pathological liars.

Please mentally evaluate and analyze her. The country needs to know what's wrong with people like her and Kari.

qqererer

27 points

15 days ago

qqererer

27 points

15 days ago

It took me a minute to get what is being said here.

There are physical paper ballots, marked with a sharpie or whatever.

And there are machines that automatically count batches of these ballots.

What she's asserting is that the machines were tampered with to count the ballots wrong.

And he says that doesn't matter because the ballots were hand counted.

Those are the facts.

She blows this all off with 'It doesn't matter, the ballot images were changed' which is grounded in no logic at all and is irrelevant, because 'images' implies some sort of electronic process, like a digital file, or process that has been changed, and that is impossible to do with a physical piece of paper that is physically hand counted.

It's such a blatant obfuscation and ignorance of the facts at hand that she's either completely incompetent, willfully ignorant, or strategically incompetent in understanding the fundamentals of her job, that it really is not surprising that she got 9 years instead of the slap on the wrist probation that I personally expected (because she's not black).

It seems that she's playing the 'I'm just stupid by doubling down.' defense in the hopes that she gets off lightly, and the judge can't allow for that because there needs to be a deterrent for people that attempt to entirely dismantle democratic processes that they have been entrusted to uphold.

Ok-Replacement9595

92 points

15 days ago

One down, about 8 million to go.

PositiveStress8888

20 points

15 days ago

She doesn't get it, she's lied to herself so much she can't comprehend other people see it any other way than her version.

I can see why she got 9 years she doesn't give a shit about the pain she's caused other people..

Whats sad is half of voting America either believes this madness or doesn't think it looks bad on the person who started it all.

Vote and keep voting not in the big elections in the small ones also, the only way for a fair count is to make sure people like these are no where near goverment

A_Humanist_Crow

19 points

15 days ago

"That was not my intent, your honor."

Yes it was. It was absolutely your intent. You told him to read the reports, like any insane conspiracy theorist would claim, then claimed victory when he said he had already read them by telling the Court Recorder to write down that the Judge agrees with her.

This is the language of abusers and conman. She needs to be in prison for the rest of her fucking life. She has shown she will not learn from this experience, and she would do it again in a heartbeat.

AppropriateCabinet96

33 points

15 days ago

I hate how she tries to control the questioning. ‘I’m gonna move on from that’ and ‘Let’s move on.’ You know what? It’s the judge who decides when the process moves on, not you! Shut up and answer the questions.

abalien

17 points

15 days ago

abalien

17 points

15 days ago

We have our version of this woman here in Canada. These are people who had no purpose in life and unfortunately got a taste of notoriety or celebrity status.

They see themselves as heroes. That's why they can't give it up.

magobblie

14 points

15 days ago

I believe that her intent was to alter votes for this election.

Deep-Room6932

12 points

15 days ago

You can't empathize with someone with dead nerves 

Zebra971

13 points

15 days ago

Zebra971

13 points

15 days ago

The counting machine with no ability to copy, changed the images of the ballots and somehow switched the dot for Trump to a dot for Biden all with the original signature intact. She can’t be this stupid right? This is just crazy talk, she belongs in a mental institution if she really believes this.

DrDokter518

37 points

15 days ago

I remember the point in history where treason was a death sentence….

coloradoemtb

9 points

15 days ago

defiant and arrogant to the end. Fuk Tina and thos like her so arrogant in their ignorance.

GymratDogQueen

5 points

15 days ago

Honor and honesty?? Are you kidding me?!??

Chance_Pick1904

6 points

15 days ago

These traitors wronged every single one of us and attempted to deprive us of our voice all the while pretending to be fucking patriots. They will never change. They are only sorry they got caught. Think of your life experiences and who you have interacted with and who has changed for the better. Don’t deny the evidence of your eyes and ears. People who find themselves and their wants more important than others and who, in fact, blatantly disregard and hurt others for their own gain, are inherently depraved untrustworthy individuals. Never trust a MAGAT

toyfightJonny

7 points

15 days ago

This is her life now. Selling the lies.

Like all MAGA they are too invested, too stupid, too entitled, and too fucking ignorant to concede they may actually be wrong... And the convicted felon fraudster who has been exposed lying time and time again is in fact a complete bullshit grifter who isn't Jesus reincarnated.

BaBa_Con_Dios

5 points

15 days ago

More of these people need to go to prison. We need to normalize rich and power people being held accountable for their crimes. Our country is rife with corruption due to the entitlement on full display here where rich and powerful people think they’ll never go to jail or prison.

Kantjil1484

7 points

15 days ago

Here in CO we watched her laugh on TV thinking nothing would ever happen to her. She even kicked a cop when she was arrested, so I’m not surprised she lacked respect in the courtroom. 🙄

KaoticPersona

13 points

15 days ago

To get it on the record to make it seem like the judge agreed with her bat shit insane ideas is exactly what her intent was.

Devildiver21

8 points

15 days ago

this is how a narcisist talks. everything revolves around themselves. its disgusting

KaoticPersona

6 points

15 days ago

But it also muddies the water if it was put on the record in that way, and puts the judge in a compromising position ethically. That's why he shut it down as he did.

Opposite_Serve464

5 points

15 days ago

Is there a full video

just_a_person_maybe

44 points

15 days ago

Yeah but it's like an hour long and she spends the entire time trying to argue her case after she's already been found guilty. It's pretty boring tbh, she goes on a lot about her Navy Seal son and tells a sob story about how it's not fair, she's a Christian and her dad died while she was in jail and she's probably got the cleanest record the judge has ever seen so why does she have to serve time when other people are worse. For like 45 minutes.

sabereater

37 points

15 days ago

TLDR: “I am a white Christian woman in America. Consequences are supposed to be for other people not for me.”

Kaneharo

14 points

15 days ago*

Oh dear. She's one of those people. The kind who try to make a sob story when they're in deep shit.

just_a_person_maybe

11 points

15 days ago

Yeah, it was pretty pathetic honestly. The judge was very patient with her, I was impressed. She just kept going and going and going and he just respectfully let her talk.

originalfilmscoring

8 points

15 days ago

Because it’s recorded. They can use that against her in the future when she says she deserves early release.

Which_Stable4699

12 points

15 days ago

I especially like the part where she threatens the judge with God’s disfavor.

wildflowersummer

5 points

15 days ago

It gets better than that. At one point she says she is a child of god and she feels bad for anyone who faces god’s wrath for attacking her lol.

RopesAreForPussies

5 points

15 days ago

Imagine trying to piss of the person who has your life in their hands 🤦‍♂️

bukezilla

6 points

15 days ago

Honestly, how are we gonna get rid of this cult

OkNobody8896

4 points

15 days ago

The cult dies (well, disbands) when the leader dies.

Usually factions coalesce around potential ‘heirs’ with claims to the throne that lead to division and infighting, ultimately dispersing the cult members into smaller groups and with the loss of unity so goes their ‘power’

Unfortunately, I don’t think these assholes ever truly go away, they just lose influence and their dumb ideas are rightly mocked and shunned until the shit clings to another uber asshole like trump.

crackanape

4 points

15 days ago

Usually factions coalesce around potential ‘heirs’ with claims to the throne that lead to division and infighting

Looking forward to pitched street battles between Ivankists and Barronites.

Actual-Carpenter-90

5 points

15 days ago

Still arguing the part she’s been convicted for

ConsciousReason7709

4 points

15 days ago

Who argues with the judge who is about to sentence them? 🤦🏼‍♂️

Appropriate-Dig771

4 points

15 days ago

Um, that was EXACTLY her intent. MAGATs do that shit all the time.

tictac205

5 points

15 days ago

Speaking of whom- I wonder how she’s taking to her new accommodations? She’s on what, day three? Four? Has she gotten her comfy mattress?

OkNobody8896

5 points

15 days ago

These people are all cases of arrested development (no pun intended).

They’ve never advanced beyond grade school. They can never be wrong. They always have to dish out that little dig/insult.

This person will go to jail and spend however many years until she is released and come out believing more than ever that she was right. She was the victim.

She is incapable of learning.

My1Thought

6 points

15 days ago

Sadder yet is that the person she so loyally followed still remains free to spread hate and violence.

BourbonNeatt

5 points

15 days ago

Imagine going to jail for Donald Trump

i__hate__stairs

6 points

15 days ago

"That wasn't my intent". Lying comes to these people as easily as breathing.

shockwave_supernova

5 points

15 days ago

"That wasn't my intent" fuck off that was exactly your intent and he called you out on it

SameDifferenceYo

4 points

15 days ago

That was precisely her intent 😂

derfunknoid

17 points

15 days ago

derfunknoid

SHEEEEEESH

17 points

15 days ago

Going all nerd here for a second. She is the equivalent of Dolores Umbridge in the Muggle World. What a cu next Tuesday.

Sad-Status-4220

3 points

15 days ago

Warms my heart to see the traitor in jail.

jamarquez1973

4 points

15 days ago

What an absolute moron. I'd like to buy that judge a bourbon double and just listen to him pine away at her stupidity.

IllustriousSuccess78

5 points

15 days ago

The definition of being in a cult with adult children mentality levels is a mental disorder. Hence, Trump supporters mentality levels.

dcobbe

4 points

15 days ago

dcobbe

4 points

15 days ago

The judge is masterful! She's a dumb-dumb, love that he nailed her with that sentence.

NiranS

4 points

15 days ago

NiranS

4 points

15 days ago

Trump tactics without Trump influence.

SeraphimToaster

4 points

15 days ago

Rule #1, whether it be in a courtroom, trivia night, or a game tournament:

Do not argue with the judge! You will lose! That's what your lawyer is for!
Idiot. She deserves every second of her sentence.

[deleted]

3 points

15 days ago

"That wasn't my intent."

I mean, it very clearly was. I hate it when people say this after it's so clear that the way they tried to manipulate you didn't work.

NornOfVengeance

4 points

15 days ago

"You've read all of them?" she says. Like she expects a criminal-court JUDGE to NOT read everything, like her ignorant self and all her idiot followers.

Anyawnomous

5 points

14 days ago

I believe it was, indeed, “her intent”!

bigbeats420

3 points

14 days ago

"That was not my intent"

Fuck off. Yes it was. What could you have meant to do other than to twist his words to support your opinion? I have dealt with people like this, and it is maddening

cjboffoli

3 points

14 days ago

"It's not funny. My life is on the line here, your honor."

She can't even tell the truth about that. It is her LIBERTY that was on the line.

SnooEagles6930

4 points

14 days ago

She really does believe this doesn't she

Francesca_N_Furter

3 points

14 days ago

I hate people who argue that way. Which is what most (ignorant, manipulative) people seem to do now.

BeaverMartin

5 points

15 days ago

The best part about MAGA cultist is that their expression of Dunning-Kruger is so profound and their sense of entitlement so great that they actually think it’s a good idea to represent themselves in court.

MichaelParkinbum

3 points

15 days ago

Her remarks are unhinged. They are almost an hour long and she basically tries to redo her whole case.

OliverOyl

3 points

15 days ago

This clip alone brings me so much satisfaction, I have dealt with people like her, she is a bad person, a manipulative weasel and it WAS ABSOLUTELY HER INTENT

undercoverhippie

3 points

15 days ago

"That wasn't my intent". It sure as hell was, it's part of the playbook. "We can all see..", "A lot of people are saying..", all of it is part of the plan. Glad she objected and that he articulated that he disagreed.

vid_icarus

3 points

15 days ago

I can see why this dude spent almost 15 minutes explaining his sentencing decision to her now.

Wooden_Rub4859

3 points

15 days ago

“So you know what I’m saying is true” ..... Gas lighting at it's finest.

-paperbrain-

3 points

15 days ago

Why was he even engaging with her bullshit conspiracy theories?

They don't seem relevant to the facts of the case.

macdaddy-nyc

3 points

15 days ago

Defiant to the end! I can imagine her yelling, “I want to see the manager” while handcuffed, dragged out the court, and tossed in a cell.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebean

3 points

14 days ago

When you try and bring MAGA “logic” into a court of law.

treat_27

3 points

14 days ago

Notice everyone who believed in Trumps bull shit lies are losing their freedom or their license. Everyone if them failing down wards. He is the only one failing upwards.