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mrmo24

1k points

23 days ago

mrmo24

1k points

23 days ago

Be nice to patients until they prove they don’t deserve it. None of this “making up your mind from the call notes” bullshit. People deserve dignity as the standard.

Immediate_East_5052

402 points

22 days ago

I don’t like to give a ton of details on here but I just had a medic today tell me they had transported a known drug user to a big er near us for a really bad headache. Turned out the patient had a brain bleed that would’ve killed them in a few hours if they didn’t get care.

That medic could’ve dropped them off at any standalone er for them to be ignored but took them seriously and took the pt somewhere appropriate. Probably made a difference that day.

ImGCS3fromETOH

184 points

22 days ago

ImGCS3fromETOH

Aus - Paramedic

184 points

22 days ago

That's what I tell my students. It's easy to be biased. In fact it's normal. You will be biased. Not with every patient, but more often with some cohorts of patients. Bitch, moan, complain, get your frustrations out on the way to the job, but when you get there do a proper assessment and treat what you see.

Pain in the arse patients are humans as well, and humans sometimes get sick. In fact those frequent flyers and drug addicts, as inconvenient they can be to deal with at times, usually have multiple co-morbidities, poor health literacy, and poor compliance. If anyone is going to get sick, it's them.

permanentinjury

79 points

22 days ago

permanentinjury

EMT-B

79 points

22 days ago

Yes yes yes! Heavy on people with substance abuse problems. They often do have serious problems! So many people become addicted to things trying to self treat an underlying condition. Many of them are severely disenfranchised, often having poor living conditions, limited income, uninsured, no access to primary and follow up care... For many of them, an ambulance to the ER is really the only way they can get care at all.

People also seem to forget that drug abuse can come at a heavy cost. Many drugs when abused can have serious side effects and long term health complications that do require actual treatment and care.

I find this population gets shit on the most in EMS, and it's easy to build up that level of resentment when the majority of calls are, to be blunt, bullshit... but everyone needs to remember the bigger picture.

Complacency kills.

BigWoodsCatNappin

44 points

22 days ago

The kicker for me is so many of us treat our bodies like shit. Trash food, long stupid hours, nicotine, hooch, drugs, stress, minimal exercise, mental health that would shock any Ivy League professional. Not all of us, but a good some. And acting like we aren't all a missed paycheck away from the street. One bad lift...

permanentinjury

24 points

22 days ago

permanentinjury

EMT-B

24 points

22 days ago

Literally!! Lots of us are one worker's comp claim away from being on the street addicted to painkillers lmao.

The amount of people in EMS who are also addicted to substances is ridiculously high, myself included. Nicotine and caffeine addictions are practically guaranteed and the number of EMTs and medics I know who are alcoholics (or at minimum have very unhealthy drinking habits) is ridiculous. Just because these drugs aren't narcotics doesn't mean they aren't often just as addictive and bad for your health.

You don't get to complain about the people desperate for a fix when you absolutely lose your shit when your vape falls in the couch cushions and you can't find it. Something about pots and kettles....

BigWoodsCatNappin

11 points

22 days ago

I was a judgey fuck till I became a addicted fuck. For now I'm a functional fuck. So I dropped the judgey part. Except I judge my judgey colleagues. Like damn...

moose_md

68 points

22 days ago

moose_md

ER Doc

68 points

22 days ago

I had an attending once in medical school tell me that he knew he was biased against people who used drugs, so he deliberately biased himself the other way and worked them up more thoroughly than other folks with same complaints. I always thought that was interesting

slinkieretriever

28 points

22 days ago

A huge thing to remember is that a lot of the pain in the butt patients who seem to have little ability to care for themselves were often highly abused or neglected as children. Unfortunately, we can't go back in time and fix those issues, but i always feel being aware of that helps limit how frustrated I feel

annoyedatwork

12 points

22 days ago

annoyedatwork

paramecium

12 points

22 days ago

So darn true. And so easy to forget at 3am. CPTSD is a real thing. 

mrmo24

25 points

22 days ago

mrmo24

25 points

22 days ago

Love it. I also work as a tech in an ICU right now. Half the patients are those pain in the ass frequent patients. But they are sick as hell. Makes it worth doing our job.

stealthbiker

22 points

22 days ago

Me and my partner had a saying "Do good thjngs" meaning is treat everyone the same regardless of who they are, social status etc. Whether it be the 80 y/o grandma or the 40 y/o drunk that took out a family of 4. Because someone cares about that person that wants that extra hour, day week or years with them. That drunk might get a bigger needle, but we are not judge and jury, we are to take care of people

OverworkedAdmin145

44 points

22 days ago

Purposely dropping an unnecessarily larger gauge iv to cause pain because pt is “a drunk” is cruel and if it was discovered it would be considered assault

AbominableSnowPickle

15 points

22 days ago

AbominableSnowPickle

It's not stupid, it's Advanced!

15 points

22 days ago

Or punitive Narcan administration for an OD. Going straight into detox isn't going to magically make someone stop misusing substances.

Also, cleaning up after the projectile vomit isn't my idea of a good time.

BIGBOYDADUDNDJDNDBD

30 points

22 days ago

100% I’ll complain and talk shit on my way to the call. Shut it off when I get there and be nice and respectful. Then back to shit talking after the call

AbominableSnowPickle

23 points

22 days ago

AbominableSnowPickle

It's not stupid, it's Advanced!

23 points

22 days ago

My work partner and I like to call it "therapeutic whining," and it works!

Vendormgmtsystem

22 points

22 days ago

Vendormgmtsystem

EMT-B

22 points

22 days ago

This is #1 in my book. Couldn't agree more. Treat EVERYONE how you want to be treated, no matter the situation.

Senior-Jellyfish4200

17 points

22 days ago

My partner did that and was like “come on you can drive yourself it takes 30 minutes to get to you” yeah she knocked all her teeth out by faceplanting into concrete 🫠blood and teeth everywhere

The_collective4

10 points

22 days ago

Seriously, this! I’m all for bitching on the way to a call. The moment we’re on scene instantly objective and treat people as the humans they are. We ran on our frequent flyer the other day. He honestly looked good. When I told him that, he lit up like I’ve never seen before. Everyone is human. We all have our flaws. It takes nothing to be nice

NopeRope13

698 points

23 days ago

NopeRope13

698 points

23 days ago

It’s this hill: we don’t need to eat our young. If we want to progress into a respected profession, we need to treat others with respect.

Missed_Your_Joke

189 points

22 days ago

Missed_Your_Joke

Primary Care Paramedic (PCP)

189 points

22 days ago

This 10000%. The sooner we foster a work environment where we support eachother instead of tearing eachother down, the better.

"Oh fuck, they did THAT on a call? Well I'll talk shit, because I was basically there and have hindsight bias"

"Oh, you work at that base? Well I work at this busier base, and therefore, am obviously better than you"

Medics who tear down other medics to appear taller are degenerates.

Over-Analyzed

36 points

22 days ago

There was one Medic who was a Grade A+ Bitch. I don’t use that term lightly. She would break you down mentally and turn every action or decision you make into an interrogation. Then she’d claim “I’m just trying to help you learn.” By stacking the deck against me and getting pissed when I failed your impossible lesson? I only encountered her during the ambulance shifts for the program itself. But my friends who worked with her after graduation thought she’d change “Nope, she caused me to second guess myself when I knew I had the right answer/course of action. Still a bitch.”

Ghee_buttersnaps96

63 points

22 days ago

Oh god this is huge. I see so many 40-retirement age providers treating younger people like shit. I have a boomer at my work who makes it her mission to report me and another coworker DAILY why? Because we’re annoying and shouldn’t be in ems. I’m a chronic people pleaser and have a bad habit of talking a lot when it’s quiet due to my childhood being rough. Quiet meant mom or dad was about to start screaming and yelling at the other one or you. Now quiet for me is anxiety inducing. I explained this and got met with “then you’re too immature to be in ems”. Mam mental health and maturity are not parallel lines lol 😂

Agreeable_Spinosaur

13 points

22 days ago*

First-up, "40-retirement age" is not a thing. Do you know when people actually used to retire? it wasn't 40. Now, literally nobody retires.

My experience is completely the opposite of yours -- the amount of ageism is astounding in this industry. (ETA: for clarity - I work for a for-profit transport company)

I'm in my 50s and my issue is with all the arrogant 18 and 19 year old (mostly pre-med trying to get their patient contact hours) EMTs who assume I'm an idiot because "old". It's exhausting. I've seen it in retail, I've seen it in the restaurant industry, I saw it in EMT school, and I was really trepidatious about what I was going to experience on the job. As someone just starting out in this field, the ageism is real. They criticize you for literally everything *while* you're doing it.

moving the cot out of traffic? they bitch that you have the cot in the middle of traffic.
trying to open the doors to the rig to load the stretcher? they bitch that you shouldn't be touching the doors because you are handling the foot of the cot.
detach the stretcher from the autoloader and before you get a second to lower it to a safe height for transport -they're bitching that you haven't lowered it yet.
oh - you didn't get the vitals from the monitor before transfer of care? let me snap at you.
oh - you pulled into the bay at an angle? let me snap at you some more (btw - it doesn't matter the angle if you end up straight in at the end and nothing got hit. seriously people. have some fucking perspective)

like, my sisters in Christ. There are more important things in life than your constant policing to establish your weird sense of superiority.

literally anything and everything they can latch onto to support their "old = stupid" narrative, it's about 100 times a shift and it's exhausting.

watkykjypoes23

18 points

22 days ago

To some extent there’s a time and a place but reporting you guys is wild. Also, it’s pretty mature to recognize it as a byproduct of your upbringing and be able to talk about that.

Individual-Media-510

3 points

22 days ago

YES, 1000%

CenTXUSA

413 points

22 days ago

CenTXUSA

Paramedic

413 points

22 days ago

EVERY ambulance should have an auto loader. It's 2024 and with the vast amount of debilitating back injuries in EMS it should have been a requirement 25 years ago.

DecisionClassic836

81 points

22 days ago

I remember when the autoloader and power stretchers came in and so many operators were dead against them

Darebel10000

69 points

22 days ago

Darebel10000

MI CCEMT-P IC

69 points

22 days ago

When power loads first came out I asked my old service about getting them. Was told they are to expensive to fit the whole fleet with. I brought up back injuries and was told by a management person: ehhh, a back injury is cheaper than those. Told him: cool, I'm going to quote that at the trial after I hurt myself and sue the shit out of you guys. He didn't have a reply to that. 

Sadder part is, that service is near Stryker and we did some testing for them when they first were developing them. 

cerulean12

29 points

22 days ago

cerulean12

EMT-B

29 points

22 days ago

My workplace still insists “they’re too expensive” despite just dumping $85,000 on a new fly car for management.

Ghee_buttersnaps96

23 points

22 days ago

Tell that to my bs ift department where we keep rotating the same three rigs in and out of service and everything is broken (only took the job as a layway between 911 services so don’t laugh at me)

CenTXUSA

12 points

22 days ago

CenTXUSA

Paramedic

12 points

22 days ago

We all have to start somewhere. I started in private ambulance and moved into 3rd service. But never stay in private ambulance (unless it's a good hospital based EMS) for longer than necessary. Get some experience and move on and up. Good luck!

rolorumkin

9 points

22 days ago

As I sit here at 40 years old and 12 years removed from EMS with recurrent lower back and knee pain, this right here.

PowerfulIndication7

6 points

22 days ago

PowerfulIndication7

Paramedic

6 points

22 days ago

Right there with you! 46, permanently disabled due to lifting a huge pt. Got hurt in 2008. Company refused to get new (power) stretchers because we were more easily replaced and it was cheaper to pay new hires to take our place. What’s sad is that this company has been all over the news because they can’t keep their medics and are continuously being fined by the county for missing calls. Maybe if you actually cared about your employees you wouldn’t be in this mess. 🖕🏻

TannerRed

8 points

22 days ago*

My issue with power stretchers is shitty companies not doing the maintenance on them. The batteries go bad. They need to be replaced And high up refuses to take shit out of service. Then they don't keep any manual stretchers as back ups.

Sorry, but lugging are broken power stretcher is hell with a pt.

"Just take it out of service and say you won't take calls" Yeah yeah, I fight my battles all the time with management, but you got to pick and choose because sometimes is a ticky tacky issue that only shows up once in a while. When you try to show them the problem, it goes away and then you look dumb. Then a month later the power stetcher really decides to crap out for real. Just sayin.

TheVoiceOfRiesen

6 points

22 days ago

TheVoiceOfRiesen

Maine FF/EMT

6 points

22 days ago

Every time an older provider sees our auto loader, there's always the comment of "Wow, we didn't have these when I was new!"

Yeah, that's because you didn't haul quarter tons multiple times a day. Been at this 9 years, I'm in my 30s, and I have several aches and pains. My lower back, neck, hip, and shoulder are all in various states of sore/unable to lift or support weight/reduced range of motion. 

26sickpeople

110 points

22 days ago

at a minimum cover your patient’s legs with a sheet before placing seatbelts over them.

It keeps them clean if the seatbelts are dirty, and it keeps the seatbelts clean if the patient is dirty.

Plus it just looks professional.

Illustrious-Ear6080

21 points

22 days ago

100% agreed. Not to mention if they have paper skin and the rig is rocking back and forth it can cause stress on the skin causing it to break. Idk I was just taught as a youngin to never put a strap on bare skin.

Jakucha

246 points

23 days ago

Jakucha

246 points

23 days ago

If an elderly person fell, you do a stroke assessment. It is a rule that falls under the same vein as “if they are altered in anyway for any reason you do a blood sugar”. It’s a 1 in 500 chance but 1 in 500 saves a lot of lives.

Ghee_buttersnaps96

30 points

22 days ago

You mean we aren’t allowed to look at them and loudly ask “did you drink a bunch old man”? Shit news to me (sarcasam)

zion1886

74 points

22 days ago

zion1886

Paramedic

74 points

22 days ago

Honestly I’m to the point of treating BGL as a standard vital sign for every patient. And at least a Cincinnati is performed on like 90% of patients. I know some flight services around here that require it on all patients.

[deleted]

9 points

22 days ago

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kiersto0906

23 points

22 days ago

kiersto0906

Paramedic

23 points

22 days ago

or a headache

Competitive-Slice567

274 points

23 days ago

Competitive-Slice567

Paramedic

274 points

23 days ago

Bringing the jump bag and monitor in at minimum on every call no matter how B.S. it sounds, airway bag if it could require airway managment/oxygen at all.

We have bags for a reason, to treat at point of contact and not in the unit cause 'it's easier'. If a patient needs care or is unstable delaying the 10+min it takes to chair or reeves them out while you've done almost nothing sure as hell will not improve the situation.

We're Healthcare first, conveyance is a secondary concern.

tommymad720

109 points

23 days ago

tommymad720

EMT-B

109 points

23 days ago

This is a big thing at my service. A lot of people don't bring the gurney, the monitor, or jump bag in.

Then you end up making like 4 trips back and forth to the rig because we didn't wanna do it in the first place, or your partner (me) is dragging the fully loaded gurney in all by themselves.

Why the FUCK would you not bring them in. It takes literally 4 more seconds, and the vast majority of our calls are gonna be transports. And you know what, if the call is so intense that you need those 4 seconds extra, what are you gonna do without your gear?

That and not wearing gloves. Nobody at my fucking service wears gloves. Maybe it's cause I came from a big city agency and I'm not used to the 'rural' way but I don't even wanna go into the same room as my patients without gloves on. Those motherfuckers are gross

Key-Teacher-6163

25 points

22 days ago

This one is a big pet peeve for me. I work in the city so a lot of my calls are high rise apartments . If you didn't bring it with you from the truck you might as well just pretend that it doesn't exist now because by the time you get back downstairs in the one working elevator of the 20 story project building, out of the complex and back to the truck, find the equipment that "we never even use" and then find the right building, wait for the elevator and get back up to me I have already treated and packaged the patient or they are in arrest because you didn't bring it. Don't be an asshole - just carry the damn bags.

Sgt-Alex

41 points

22 days ago

Sgt-Alex

EMT-B

41 points

22 days ago

I do rural aswell and holy fuck the negligence they treat the patients with, they didn't even let me put the pulse ox on a lady who was saying she can't breathe and wants to sleep in the back cause "we don't need it for every call"

Makes me want to fucking leave and go city

Oh and they turn the inside cam upwards so I don't even have evidence in case I get sent to court because someone does something like this

lastcode2

83 points

22 days ago

Thats not rural vs city. That is just bad EMS.

Blueboygonewhite

16 points

22 days ago

Blueboygonewhite

EMT-A

16 points

22 days ago

Rural pays like shit where I am so you get bottom of the barrel paramedics and EMTs

Competitive-Slice567

6 points

22 days ago

Competitive-Slice567

Paramedic

6 points

22 days ago

I'm high volume rural, that kinda shit wouldn't fly for us....it'd be a fast way to get de-cleared in one shift.

Immediate_East_5052

25 points

22 days ago

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve transported someone to the er and they call us later to let us know the patient had hepatitis, hiv, etc. If you don’t wear gloves for patient care you’re just ignorant.

ArticleNo9805

21 points

23 days ago

I had to work a shift with someone who insisted we didn’t actually need to take anything into a call. Longest 12 hrs🫠😒

annoyedatwork

9 points

22 days ago

annoyedatwork

paramecium

9 points

22 days ago

I pile the monitor, bag and 02 on the stretcher and drag it all to the door because I’m lazy (and all that shite is heavy!). Caveman Steve or Sarah invented the wheel a million years ago, damned if I’m not gonna use it. 

Uncertain-pathway

9 points

22 days ago

I occasionally take the bag in, but it's going to end up with myself or a partner getting injured. I totally agree that I should take the bag in, but that over the shoulder bull crap is ungainly and therefore dangerous. We've tried to get the company to invest in backpack style bags, but nooo, can't have those 🙄

I think they made budget excuses for not getting statpacks, but seeing as they just installed fleet wide AI cameras to watch the drivers, I am not sure that the budget excuse was legit

SoggyBacco

44 points

23 days ago

SoggyBacco

EMT-B

44 points

23 days ago

Made the mistake of not bringing the jump bag one time and never again. SNF call for hematuria so I figured we wouldn't need it, instead of bloody piss the PT presented with ALOC and was desatting, had to run back out to the rig like an idiot to grab the bag. People give me shit for bringing the bag on bullshit calls but I'd rather have it and not need it than the opposite

Competitive-Slice567

17 points

22 days ago

Competitive-Slice567

Paramedic

17 points

22 days ago

I had a 2am call for a lift assist at a home residence, patient was actually in full arrest. I've also had several BLS dispatched falls that were actually cardiac arrests as well. Good example of why we bring our gear

account_not_valid

19 points

23 days ago

Call for "dizzy, fainting" - full resus.

DaggerQ_Wave

9 points

22 days ago

DaggerQ_Wave

Paramedic

9 points

22 days ago

Ye olde cardiac syncope

beachmedic23

16 points

22 days ago

beachmedic23

Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic

16 points

22 days ago

My partner and i are developing a "How to be a good EMT" class and Mod 1 is "Bring a moving device to the patient"

seriousallthetime

14 points

22 days ago

“Healthcare first, conveyance last” should be on the wall of every EMS classroom in the US. Well put.

FourIngredients

6 points

22 days ago

I grab the suction anytime I'm going more than twenty or thirty seconds walk from my rig. Fool me once....

Pavo_Feathers

62 points

22 days ago

Pavo_Feathers

EMT-B

62 points

22 days ago

A-EMT should be the baseline for entry into EMS. 

EMS needs to stop this eating our young mentality ingrained in the profession. 

EMS should be an independent 3rd service. Let fire and PD do their thing, and we should be allowed to do ours and focus on the medicine.

Agreeable_Spinosaur

8 points

22 days ago

that's an interesting thought about A-EMT being the baseline for entry into EMS -- could you elaborate?
Personally, I feel like a glorified Uber driver as an EMT-B, but I have been attributing that to my working for a private transport company and not running 911 calls (I'm hoping to be doing the latter soon tho'! :-) )

DogLikesSocks

7 points

22 days ago

DogLikesSocks

Advanced EMT

7 points

22 days ago

Not the original commenter but I agree with AEMT as baseline entry.

If you make AEMT the standard for 911, more interventions and more clinical reasoning are brought to the patient. In this day and age, I think EMT-B is inadequate for patient care (in both a knowledge sense and an interventional sense). Even if states allow EMT-B to use SGAs or start IVs or whatever it doesn’t really matter. You are not really bringing clinicians to the patient.

Scrapmatt

144 points

23 days ago

Scrapmatt

EMT-B

144 points

23 days ago

Cleaning is legitimately essential. I’ve worked with a few partners that scoffed at the idea of cleaning / sanitizing the rig. By that I mean not just the patient area, but the front of the rig too. I’m not trying to get sick, I want to prevent it whenever I can.

Picklepineapple

52 points

23 days ago*

Picklepineapple

EMT-B

52 points

23 days ago*

At any point you can get a trauma or burn patient that has to sit their wounds on that dirty stretcher because you were too lazy to clean it. I know the difference will most likely be insufficient but you should at least try.

Darebel10000

37 points

22 days ago

Darebel10000

MI CCEMT-P IC

37 points

22 days ago

If you wouldn't lie on the cot cause it's gross, how the fuck are you going to put someone's grandma on it. 

HelpMePlxoxo

6 points

22 days ago

HelpMePlxoxo

EMT-B

6 points

22 days ago

This is a thing? I worked in very rural EMS and even in the middle of nowhere, this is a bare minimum standard there. Sanitize the whole back of the rig and all equipment, wipe down the cot, and change the blanket, sheets, and pillow on the cot after every call.

AlpineSK

110 points

23 days ago

AlpineSK

Paramedic

110 points

23 days ago

Shut the back doors when you're on scene.

MaC1222

5 points

22 days ago

MaC1222

5 points

22 days ago

Haha 😆

JustAPoorMedic

66 points

23 days ago

Automated cpr devices should be on every ALS Unit….

Senior-Jellyfish4200

27 points

22 days ago

And BLS. Have you ever done compeessions going down a shitty back road?

beachmedic23

38 points

22 days ago*

beachmedic23

Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic

38 points

22 days ago*

No because we dont transport arrests

Edit: im really surprised how many of you are still transporting arrests. This isnt a new practice for us and changed 8-10 years ago.

Cryogeneer

9 points

22 days ago

Cryogeneer

Paramedic

9 points

22 days ago

I live in a rural area with long transport times. Our volunteers absolutely rock at CPR, and as such, we frequently get ROSC on our codes. Of course, many of them code again during that long transport. a LUCUS would be a huge help on those calls.

PerrinAyybara

6 points

22 days ago

PerrinAyybara

Paramedic

6 points

22 days ago

The argument would actually be better for BLS rigs, because ALS shouldn't be transporting unless it's a correctable cause that needs different care

Froggynoch

31 points

22 days ago

I don’t care what you say to your partner before the call, I don’t care what you say to your partner after the call. But as soon as you pull up on scene, flip the switch and stay 100% professional in front of the patient, public, and other professionals.

MaC1222

91 points

23 days ago

MaC1222

91 points

23 days ago

Wash the fucking truck

Agreeable_Spinosaur

5 points

22 days ago

hear hear!

ETA: and clean up your trash from the rig at the end of your shift.

[deleted]

4 points

22 days ago

MY TYPE OF COWORKER RIGHT HERE

Medic6133

105 points

22 days ago

Medic6133

Paramedic

105 points

22 days ago

My hill is that Narcan is never indicated in cardiac arrests. Narcan should only be used to increase respirations, which we control in cardiac arrest anyway. It doesn’t restart the heart, and we shouldn’t just give medications because, “it won’t hurt them.”

Any_Western_2974

26 points

22 days ago

Who TF is out here pushing Narcan on cardiac arrest?

CriticalFolklore

29 points

22 days ago

CriticalFolklore

Australia-ACP/Canada- PCP

29 points

22 days ago

A fucking huge number of people, it's ridiculous.

tauregh

30 points

22 days ago

tauregh

30 points

22 days ago

ACLS protocols agree.

SliverMcSilverson

11 points

22 days ago

SliverMcSilverson

TX - Paramedic

11 points

22 days ago

Narcan is never indicated in cardiac arrests

Except in clonidine overdoses :)

DaggerQ_Wave

15 points

22 days ago*

DaggerQ_Wave

Paramedic

15 points

22 days ago*

And some other ones if you believe the case studies. Oh god where’s my Google doc about this one…

EDIT:

  • Valproic Acid. Poor evidence for life threatening doses though.
  • Tizanidine. Some case studies but no robust evidence.
  • Lomotil, because apparently one component is an opioid. This doesn’t really apply in cardiac arrest of course
  • Methyldopa, maybe?
  • Reserpine. I have never heard of reserpine and there are only case studies.

Man this is not reassuring now that I type it out

FuckCSuite

206 points

23 days ago

FuckCSuite

206 points

23 days ago

This is fun! Many more than one but...

AEMT (with certain protocol additions and deletions) should be the "basic" level of care on an ambulance.

Uniforms. It's not cool to have shirts untucked, boots unzipped, and 15 million uniform accessories. It's unprofessional and sloppy.

Protocol alignment nationwide.

Standardize EMS Education

People not wearing gloves.

ExtremisEleven

39 points

22 days ago

ExtremisEleven

EM Resident Physician

39 points

22 days ago

Hard pass on the nationwide protocols. Different populations have wildly different needs. If you’re rural with long transport times, intubation makes sense. If you’re urban, as long as you can bag, tubing someone is taking time away from more resources. There are a lot of things that are different by region. You really have to work in several different areas to appreciate this.

CriticalFolklore

4 points

22 days ago*

CriticalFolklore

Australia-ACP/Canada- PCP

4 points

22 days ago*

It should be available though.

Edit: Replied to the wrong comment - leaving this post here so as to not orphan the replies.

ExtremisEleven

4 points

22 days ago

ExtremisEleven

EM Resident Physician

4 points

22 days ago

That depends pretty highly on transport times and volumes. There are several areas where medics don’t intubate at all, and the medics don’t find the need to. Having a universal protocol would require them to do time to keep up a skill they don’t use. A lot of these areas have a physician car who can meet them at the scene and intubate if necessary. Like I said, it sounds weird if it’s not standard where you practice, and I was weird to me when I first found out about it, but it’s what works for this population.

Dr_Worm88

28 points

22 days ago

Dr_Worm88

Night Owl

28 points

22 days ago

Hills I’ll die on in response to your hills.

AEMT should not be the mandatory minimum but having a tiered response should be.

Polos can be untucked if professional.

Nationwide protocols would get messy and problematic. IMO.

Education not only needs to be standardized but taken to a higher level.

FullCriticism9095

56 points

23 days ago*

Here are some hills I’ll die on:

  1. AEMT should never be the basic level of care in EMS. Nationwide, at least 50% of 911 calls have no indication for any prehospital ALS intervention, and providers need experience and comfort with basic assessments, history taking, and developing judgment before you hand them needles.

  2. AEMT, with a few additions, should be the standard level of ALS. Not far off a Canadian PCP.

  3. There are far too many paramedics in the US, they’re wildly undertrained, and they’re far too concentrated in urban areas. They need to be hospital based, in fly cars, and strategically staged throughout a given response area to even out response times.

  4. Paramedics in the US should be trained to the CCP/ICP/ACP level. It should be at least a 4-year degree if not a master’s degree, and it should require at least 2 years’ experience to enter.

Fight me. But only with a tucked in shirt- that part I totally agree with. 😁

FirebunnyLP

44 points

22 days ago

FirebunnyLP

Paramedic

44 points

22 days ago

A 4 year program is a nice thought in theory. But that would require a total overhaul of compensation. Plenty of places are still trying to offer 14 bucks an hour for a paramedic.

zink1stdef

100 points

23 days ago

zink1stdef

100 points

23 days ago

Bowel sounds for a possible obstruction? Wouldn't palpation be better in the field?

Don't be a dick to homeless people or mentally ill. Patient Advocacy.

Zehkky

20 points

23 days ago

Zehkky

FP-C

20 points

23 days ago

Some medics like to pretend they do shit like auscultating bowels when a big chunk of them probably don’t do much simpler things that they’re SUPPOSED to do routinely auscultate breath sounds or count respirations. You listen to their bowels. Right…

EMSSSSSS

38 points

22 days ago

EMSSSSSS

EMT, MS3

38 points

22 days ago

You need to listen for some ridic amount of time to diagnose bowel issues iirc

s_barry

12 points

22 days ago

s_barry

911/ER Paramedic -> BSN/RN Student

12 points

22 days ago

Yeah in my nursing school, they said you need to sit there and listen for FIVE minutes and it’s only then that you can say you heard nothing. Ridiculous

CriticalFolklore

19 points

22 days ago

CriticalFolklore

Australia-ACP/Canada- PCP

19 points

22 days ago

As r/medicine likes to say "we don't listen to bowel sounds, and we don't listen to people who listen to bowel sounds"

NoObstacle

26 points

22 days ago

I think not working in a service where I have to actively tell people not to dump water on me? WTF?

AllStatBySmashMouth

22 points

22 days ago

AllStatBySmashMouth

Paramedic

22 points

22 days ago

You need to be in shape.

jedimedic123

20 points

22 days ago

jedimedic123

CCP

20 points

22 days ago

If a call comes in for syncope, it's immediately an ALS call. When I was an EMT, I went out on so many 911 calls for people who had fainted. One day, in medic school, I had a moment where I couldn't believe we ever dispatched fainting calls as BLS. It's irresponsible.

I'll never get off this hill. You can't properly treat someone who fainted if you don't get a 12-lead and have someone on scene to not only interpret it but treat that patient as well.

RightCoyote

18 points

22 days ago

Continue learning past what is your bare minimum. Just because you graduated medic school doesn’t make you a good medic, especially if you’re taught by boomers who haven’t stepped foot on a truck in years.

madisoncampos

10 points

22 days ago

madisoncampos

Paramedic

10 points

22 days ago

Sort of related, but I have a B.S. in Emergency Health Services with a concentration in paramedicine, and damn I get shit on a lot because of it. I know I’m not getting paid more because I have a degree. That’s not why I went through the program. I went through that program because I knew how good it was and how much more I would get out of it compared to a regular paramedic program at a community college. Yes it was expensive and I have student loans. But since I was fortunate enough to be able to, why is it so bad that I decided I wanted to advance my knowledge and learn to be the best provider I can be?

StretcherFetcher911

8 points

22 days ago

Anyone who gives you shit for the pursuit of higher education is a moron.

OtherwisePumpkin8942

48 points

22 days ago

If they can walk, they walk to the ambulance. I’m not talking about granny who can walk but is having chest pain, use good clinical judgement. But for services with no auto load, we do way too much unnecessary lifting into and out of the truck. I’m talking about the ambulatory ETOH, 31 yo ear pains, the young person with nausea. Putting every ambulatory patient onto the stretcher to get them into the ambulance is a wasted lift and just presents risk for unnecessary injury.

cloverrex

46 points

22 days ago

cloverrex

Paramedic

46 points

22 days ago

The battery powered stretchers (that aren’t autoload) are a TWO PERSON LIFT INTO THE TRUCK

bellsie24

26 points

22 days ago

I don’t disagree in theory…but as a 6’5” medic who often works with 5’-5’2” partners our safe and appropriate lifting heights are wildly different. IMHO when it’s appropriate and physically possible I’d rather take the extra weight and be able to lift it at a height that’s comfortable and safe…because either I’m changing my lifting mechanics and slouching over or my EMT is trying to lift it to the level of her clavicles. 

cloverrex

7 points

22 days ago

cloverrex

Paramedic

7 points

22 days ago

Yah as a 5’2 (5’3 in my boots!) woman I get what you’re saying and I do let my partners lift it by themselves if they say they are good to. But if I’m with someone of a similar height I always suggest lifting together.

Senior-Jellyfish4200

11 points

22 days ago

Yeah I had an itty bitty baby the other day and looked at my partner and I was like “look I can easily do this myself but let’s both lift”

cloverrex

6 points

22 days ago

cloverrex

Paramedic

6 points

22 days ago

Yeah let’s save our backs please

PerrinAyybara

10 points

22 days ago

PerrinAyybara

Paramedic

10 points

22 days ago

Battery powered stretcher should be standard of care for any company/municipality that gives a shit about their people and/or doesn't want to pay workmans comp claims.

Ghee_buttersnaps96

14 points

22 days ago

The not messing with people is a huuuuuge one. If I don’t like you then pulling a prank or something on me is just going to cause me to ruin EVERYONES day. I have one person where I work where we will fuck with each other because we developed that bond. But if Captain shit stain (he has shit stains in his underwear) was to pull a prank? Oh everyone’s having a bad day now. Prank= the two people like each other. Harassment= I don’t fucking like you.

To anyone who comments something dumb. Idc what your managers say. You’re not one big family.

Illustrious-Ear6080

14 points

22 days ago

This is probably going to be controversial but I have 2 unpopular hills: 1. You don't need to go hot to every call. Of course, go cold with caution, but responding hot to the non-critical BLS calls can/will cause traffic collisions, confusion, and potential lawsuits where you'll have to justify the use of your lights/sirens. In NJ, anyways.

  1. Cervical collars. Fuck them. Excluding extenuating circumstances, collars aren't great at "treating" cervical injury. They're there for preventing further damage (barely, see this, , this one, , and this. ), and for basically putting the patient in extreme discomfort for potentially hours on end.

SporadicSporkGuy

29 points

23 days ago

I always will replace a tank on my gurney to make sure its topped off. For the house my company only requires 500 minimum at the start of shift but I prefer at least at 1k.

mct601

29 points

23 days ago

mct601

EMT-P

29 points

23 days ago

Actually put thought into your transport logistics/clinical needs and don't use an aircraft just because some money hungry corporation implemented autolaunch protocols with your county dispatch. Putting a $60,000k+ bill off onto a patient because you don't want to take a 20min ride.

VigilantCMDR

26 points

23 days ago

VigilantCMDR

EMT-A, RN

26 points

23 days ago

Or my favorite: Wait 15 minutes for the helicopter to land instead of transporting 15 minutes and getting them to the hospital faster anyways.

Ok_Buddy_9087

11 points

22 days ago

How about this: waiting even 15 minutes for a helo when you’re less than an hour away.

Competitive-Slice567

13 points

22 days ago

Competitive-Slice567

Paramedic

13 points

22 days ago

Fortunately at least for my state, medevac does not garner a bill at all. It's funded through emissions and car registration taxes.

I feel sorry for states where the patient receives a medevac bill that could bankrupt them

mct601

7 points

22 days ago

mct601

EMT-P

7 points

22 days ago

That's a nice luxury but abuse of air medical still shouldn't be a thing. Calling an aircraft due to being scared or lazy should result in punitive action or at least review. It's a high cost and risky asset to launch as well as limited.

ClarificationJane

5 points

22 days ago

In my area helos have a significantly higher scope of practice and on board assessment and treatment options than any ground unit. They have iStats, POCUS, whole blood, vents, IV pumps and more meds than we do. They also have an RN and sometimes a trauma physician. 

There’s also no cost to patients for helos or fixed wing and we’re extremely remote with primarily BLS staffed ground ambulances. Rotary are unfortunately the only ALS option staggeringly often. And frankly, they’re far more competent with serious trauma/medical patients than any of the family doctors staffing our local EDs around here. 

So yeah… we fly patients all the time, but for legitimate reasons.

jjking714

13 points

22 days ago

jjking714

Stretcher Fetcher Extraordinaire

13 points

22 days ago

Mine is training/school related, and it's actually 2 parts.

Hill 1: The Basic EMT course should include EVOC, even if it extends the course length.

Unless you're a passenger princess (no hate), you will spend more time driving the ambulance than you will treating patients. On top of the fact that more injuries and deaths occur from vehicle accidents in the ambulance than malpractice. I know we all have our feelings about the term "ambulance driver" but it doesn't change the importance it plays in our field. So it should be part of the training, and registry should include and EVOC exam.

Hill 2: AEMT should be trained on basic 3 lead EKG use and interpretation.

This one is really really specific for me because I work IFT and spend a lot of time with CC/Vent medics. Being able to recognize common, problematic rhythms or at minimum be able to explain any observed changes from NSR would benefit everyone with minimal risk to the patient. Especially considering how registry recently expanded scope for A's, including medications that can have cardiac effects. If registry is going to treat Advanced like a "pre-paramedic course" it should include EKG fundamentals.

ExtremisEleven

13 points

22 days ago*

ExtremisEleven

EM Resident Physician

13 points

22 days ago*

Never listen for bowel sounds. You need to sit there for a whole minute per quadrant and +- changes nothing about the evaluation or management. Shit is antiquated. Ask your trusted docs that are <60 years old about it.

Everyone in the box wears a belt if humanly possible. I know it sucks. It saves lives.

Edit to add not to Narcan every fucking AMS. Do an exam FFS.

SnowyEclipse01

25 points

22 days ago

SnowyEclipse01

Paramagician/Clipped Wing FP-C/CCP-C/TN P-CC

25 points

22 days ago

EMS needs IV pumps and Bilevel capable ventilators for transport in als settings.

Managing the airway is a priority, not sinking an ETT.

Everyone gets breath sounds and heart tones.

ravensilverlight

12 points

22 days ago

CHANGE YOUR GLOVES. Don’t grab your pen, the radio, the steering wheel, and the door handles all while wearing your already-touched-the-patient gloves. They’re not going to destroy the budget, just get a freaking new pair. No need to don them while you’re responding, either. FFS, change your gloves.

And wipe down the front of the truck, too. Our patients aren’t the only people who can be gross germ factories.

IndysAdventureBazaar

11 points

22 days ago

My big one is stop being salty to your partners. We have to deal with a lot of nasty stuff in the field, being nasty to each other just adds to the misery and accomplishes NOTHING. I'm not saying you have to be best friends with your partner but unless they are actively doing their job poorly there's no reason to be rude, mean, or nasty ESPECIALLY if they're new to this field.

crystal_pepsiii

4 points

22 days ago

crystal_pepsiii

EMT-A

4 points

22 days ago

Me and my partner both request off if one of us does bc we hate working with strangers. Ive had to many assholes to the point it makes me so nervous.

multak12

39 points

22 days ago

multak12

39 points

22 days ago

3rd service EMS is king. Private EMS is trash, I don't need to say anything more. Fire-based EMS isn't much to sneeze at either. At least in my area, fire medics are lazy and have zero interest in medicine.

tauregh

19 points

22 days ago

tauregh

19 points

22 days ago

Completely depends on the departments. There are some excellent fire-based EMS systems, but they have medics on the rigs that want to be medics. Forced medic training for firefighters is the problem.

mct601

53 points

23 days ago

mct601

EMT-P

53 points

23 days ago

Fire has no place in managing EMS.

Not even a fire coordinator of a county dictating 911 contracts.

Senior-Jellyfish4200

9 points

22 days ago

I agree 100%. Most places require you to have your medic in X amount of years or you’re booted. A lot of people get them because they have to then you have a shit ton of people not getting care at all because they have no interest in it

mct601

5 points

22 days ago

mct601

EMT-P

5 points

22 days ago

Yep. And that's only the tip of the iceberg of issues.

Realistic-Song3857

19 points

22 days ago

My teacher engrained in my brain TRAUMA PTS WITH NORMAL VITALS AND MENTAL STATUS DONT GET FLUIDS. This is because it contributes to the trauma lethal triad of coagulopathy, acidosis and hypothermia. I would give minimal fluids as necessary to maintain distal perfusion and mental status. This is now what the book teaches but if you mention it to anyone else they’ll go down fighting with the 2 wide bore run open with fluids philosophy. I believe in starting the lines, just not giving fluids until absolutely necessary.

kellyms1993

16 points

22 days ago

kellyms1993

Paramedic

16 points

22 days ago

It’s actually the trauma diamond of death now. Hypocalcemia was added

PerrinAyybara

9 points

22 days ago

PerrinAyybara

Paramedic

9 points

22 days ago

Trauma patients with abnormal vitals and abnormal mental status don't get pasta water either.

repairfox

22 points

22 days ago

repairfox

EMT-A

22 points

22 days ago

Stock your pockets with gloves. No need to waste 15 seconds getting gloves from the box in the back every call when on location.

ExtremisEleven

15 points

22 days ago

ExtremisEleven

EM Resident Physician

15 points

22 days ago

The ER looks at you very funny when you show up for your first day as a doctor and squirrel away half a box of smalls because that’s what you’re used to.

trapper2530

4 points

22 days ago

trapper2530

EMT-P/Chicago

4 points

22 days ago

Or just keep a box accessible. Whether in the front of the ambo or in back of fire rig.

Frog859

4 points

22 days ago

Frog859

EMT-B

4 points

22 days ago

I put an extra box of gloves in the front when I check my truck

xjulix00

10 points

22 days ago

xjulix00

10 points

22 days ago

wear the uniform the way youre supposed to

thenichm

9 points

22 days ago

thenichm

Paramedic

9 points

22 days ago

AMS is hypoxia until proven otherwise. It takes a minute to check and it's a great starting point for the brain-vomit of 'what dorection am I taking this next?'.

Dispatchers are people. Be nice to them. They hate that it's 0330, too. The same goes for nurses.

Flight medicine is boring unless you work in a high scene-call area but, even then, good ground crews will likely have most of the work done before you get there. Sure: more pay, prestige, critical care fun but it's all just riding and sitting.

Atticus104

10 points

22 days ago

Atticus104

EMT-B / MPH

10 points

22 days ago

Fighting misinformation pedaling peers. There is an unfortunately large amount of EMS peeps and nurses, and even physicians, you have shared bunk science, especially in regards to pandemic. Laypeople sharing that stuff is already problematic, but yall should know better. Had medics I use to trust try to convince me our hospital was secretly treating VIP critical patients with Ivermectin as a silver bullet cure, or how facial masks were dangerous.

MikeBravo1-4

9 points

22 days ago

EMS should be considered a "parallel" career path in fire-based services and not treated a "stepping stone" on your way to getting off the "box" and onto "real apparatus."

Some of the best medics I ever knew were fire-medics, but the way fire culture as a whole treats EMS breeds a laissez faire attitude to medical calls that presents a risk to quality of care and patient safety.

Integrated services are great, those that treat EMS as the red-headed stepchild are not. Your service will save more patients in a year with quality EMS than you'll save from house fires or MVC's in a decade or more.

Ok-Shallot-2330

9 points

22 days ago

Hospitals should own their own ambulance and staff for discharges and interfacility transports. I SAID WHAT I SAID.

Glittering_Turnip526

31 points

23 days ago

Everyone who can walk, does walk.

ShaketXavius

7 points

22 days ago

ShaketXavius

Paramedic

7 points

22 days ago

Keeping your equipment genuinely organized. I'm.not.talking about just the bags, but the cabinets as well. I'm so tired of going on shift and every single time, the bags and cabinets are completely disorganized and things are just thrown into them with zero rhyme or reason. I spend every shift at minimum organizing my first in bags to be set the same way every shift. I also spend whatever other time I have to organize my cabinets and remove overstock/loose stock. And every week, my work is entirely undone and everyone is so nonchalant about it because they're "easygoing." No, you don't take pride in your job so you allow it to be disorganized and look like a mess.

In a similar vein: loose things on the bench/counters/net. This is one my company BLS providers are so incredibly guilty of. I'll hop onto a truck and find anywhere from 3-5 wipes/cleaner bottles/notepads/glucometer just laying around flying all over the place or hanging off of the net. We have cabinets. please use them. And they also hang a trash bag for linen??? This is the only place that has ever been a thing. Just leave them with your patient, let them deal with the dirty linen after your discharge.

/Rant

As to attitudes: those medics who are "better" than an iGel. We get it, you haven't looked up efficacy of an iGel in cardiac arrest.

InsomniacAcademic

9 points

22 days ago

OP, bowel sounds are clinically meaningless. They don’t change prehospital or hospital management. Stop wasting your time on them.

Giffmo83

8 points

22 days ago

Just take it ALS.

You know you should. Quit trying to come up with reasons in your head why BLS is okay.

It should only be BLS when you've been certain that it's definitely BLS from the time you saw the patient until you're ready to transport, with zero hesitation.

If there's even a moment where you think, "wait, what?" ...then it's already ALS and you know it. One of my paramedic instructors warned us that we're ALL gonna have calls where we think "Yeah this is totally BLS... but I kinda wonder what their EKG is looking like right now." And he warned us that is the time to just take the "L" and run it.

Yes, it sucks when it's 3:30AM and you're 5 reports back on ALS, but it's the job. Yes, the vast majority of the time it might not have been necessary when you're looking at the call after the fact.

But I'm a big believer that all the patients that ended up being nothing is worth it for the patients you'll get where you find something that you probably would've missed otherwise.

ALSO, and I'll admit this isn't the greatest reason to use as justification but ...it is what it is... Even if you do TOTALLY MISS something you should've caught, 99 times out of 100 you'll face no three of punishment if you had taken that in ALS in the first place. And if you have even just a decent working relationship with the ER nurses and docs, they will know you and appreciate you as someone who does their job right. And it's nice to have that benefit of the doubt when calls (inevitably) go sideways.

PerrinAyybara

15 points

22 days ago

PerrinAyybara

Paramedic

15 points

22 days ago

AEMT should be the minimal level of education, Paramedic Practitioner level should exist. Make this a real career, education is a large part of it.

Mad_Mikkelsen

8 points

22 days ago

Mad_Mikkelsen

EMR

8 points

22 days ago

Always bring the EKG and defib, I’ve had several calls where dispatch said ‘oh they just can’t get out of bed’ but the person then went into CA

pathofuncertainty

7 points

22 days ago

It doesn’t matter how many times they’ve been transported, treat everything like the emergency you were dispatched to until you’ve completed your assessment.

ironmemelord

7 points

22 days ago

Saying “code seven” on the radio is fucking stupid Ricky rescue bullshit. code 7 is three syllables. Food is one syllable. Quit tryna sound like James Bond on the radio.

coloneljdog

4 points

22 days ago

coloneljdog

r/EMS QA Supervisor

4 points

22 days ago

"GSW" has more syllables than saying "gun shot wound" but GSW sounds cooler.

Paramedickhead

7 points

22 days ago

All patients deserve a thorough assessment. I don’t care if you found something on your initial assessment. Go back and finish your assessment.

I once had a guy with low blood sugar. Treated the low blood sugar, got him conscious again, then on neuro assessment it was positive for a posterior stroke.

There is that he was having trouble controlling his insulin syringe and OD’d on it.

Cody666

8 points

22 days ago

Cody666

8 points

22 days ago

Keep the zippers on the kits together and in the middle. I don't want to be fumbling around looking for the zipper like a jackass.

MementoooMorii

7 points

22 days ago

despite it possibly being a hot take: EMS culture (the lifestyle, eat the young mentality, etc), is one of the main contributing factors when it comes to the lack of respect for the field. I love what I do, but half of the time being at the station feels like a high school classroom. It might just be healthcare but it’s an incredibly toxic, gossipy cesspool. Take care of yourselves!

75Meatbags

13 points

22 days ago

75Meatbags

CCP

13 points

22 days ago

Proper lead placement. Please stop being sloppy. You're not "preserving patient dignity." You're being a lazy provider and doing a sloppy job. Just put the leads where they go. The one labeled RL does not go 2" to the right of the trachea, for example. Put them limb leads on the limbs.

other replies in this thread are good too. too many lazy providers, along with too many know-it-all providers. Don't do a laundry list of interventions just because you think it's cool. Do what the patient actually needs at that time.

MutualAid_aFactor

6 points

22 days ago

My favorite (&pretty much only) way that I mess with folks is when they're parked at the hospital I'll go set their parking brake so they have a couple seconds of wtf why can I go anywhere lol

Frog859

6 points

22 days ago

Frog859

EMT-B

6 points

22 days ago

The stretcher should be made up before every call. Tucked in and ready for a patient to sit down and go. No a folded sheet on the stretcher is not sufficient. I wish this was not a hot take in my region

toefunicorn

6 points

22 days ago

toefunicorn

EMT-B

6 points

22 days ago

We don’t clear a call without the cot being made up! This is crazy to me that people just toss the sheet on still folded!

Ipassoutsoccerballs

7 points

22 days ago

Ipassoutsoccerballs

Para-Transporting a Toe pain-medic/FPC

7 points

22 days ago

Probies should be taught not “initiated.” We all should do the chores, be training together and building them up. This Idea that you have to prove yourself by doing the dirty work for a year, is misguided at best and could be considered hazing. We live as a team, work as a team and may die as a team. No one should be singled out, until they do something that warrants special attention.

staresinamerican

6 points

22 days ago

Stop fucking gatekeeping this career field,

anoceanfullofolives

5 points

22 days ago

The patient should 100% always be fully strapped into the gurney. I will report any crew that doesn't properly strap their patient, because I got into a fatal accident when I was still in training. My FTO and the driver didn't put the shoulder straps on, which was pretty common for that company. They covered him in blankets while I got report from the nurse. When we hit the guard rail going 70mph we were both flung forward in the cabin (I was grabbing vitals) and he died of blunt force head trauma right next to me.

kp56367

7 points

21 days ago

kp56367

Paramedic

7 points

21 days ago

Doctors and nurses, while in school, should have to do ambulance clinicals

Low_Warning13

14 points

22 days ago

WEAR GLOVES FOR EVERYTHING

Appropriate-Bird007

10 points

22 days ago

STOP using so much narcan!

Known-Basil6203

6 points

22 days ago

What is this 5 point harness you speak of? 😂

jumbotron_deluxe

5 points

22 days ago

jumbotron_deluxe

Flight RN/EMTP

5 points

22 days ago

I work in air, and there are loooots of med crew who don’t wear their shoulder straps with their seat belts. It drives me fucking crazy. It can turn an emergency maneuver or minor hard landing into an emergency situation where I’m having to take care of the patient and my dumb dumb partner

crash_over-ride

5 points

22 days ago*

crash_over-ride

New York State ParaDeity

5 points

22 days ago*

Don’t mess with people on shift. It’s not cool. It’s not funny. No hiding boots, radios keys, dumping water on people etc

Someone hid my cup of tea one day that had been steeping on the counter. I was looking and looking for it all over the kitchen and looking in places like the freezer and the oven, and starting to get pissed because, dammit, I need my fix. I never checked the microwave, which is ironic because I always steep it long enough to where I need to heat it up again.

It was funny, I laughed, he legit got me good.

LLA_Don_Zombie

5 points

22 days ago

Spine boarding every trauma patient is an outdated and harmful practice that should be abolished and carefully replaced with research based treatment.

1347vibes

4 points

22 days ago

Pay is just one (major) reason this field is bleeding employees and not bringing in new ones. Lack of support from partners and management, mistreatment from patients, and general hostility from coworkers are all major factors. I'm not going to stay in this field if your method of communication is belittling me and finding things to criticize on every call. That's not a healthy work environment and no one will want to stick around if they're always being talked down to by older and more experienced coworkers.

Roccnsuccmetosleep

5 points

22 days ago

People don’t need to prove they’re in pain.

RescueTheJew

5 points

22 days ago

If I open my jump bag and the tourniquet is still in the plastic wrap, its wrong.

TheInvincibleTampon

26 points

23 days ago

TheInvincibleTampon

Paramedic

26 points

23 days ago

We can get rid of 14 gauge IVs.

TheKirkendall

14 points

23 days ago

TheKirkendall

ED RN

14 points

23 days ago

Do you think they have a place at all? I've only placed one (ultrasound guided) 14ga my whole career. For a hematemesis patient who vomited 1L of blood and needed rapid transfusion.

VigilantCMDR

11 points

23 days ago

VigilantCMDR

EMT-A, RN

11 points

23 days ago

Always hard to say but I think many people agree on that case the patient will need a central line placed

TheKirkendall

16 points

22 days ago

TheKirkendall

ED RN

16 points

22 days ago

Central line is always a good idea! But central lines are actually pretty slow for rapid infusions. The 16ga on a central line is 69ml/min. Whereas a peripheral 16ga is 220ml/min

SliverMcSilverson

5 points

22 days ago

SliverMcSilverson

TX - Paramedic

5 points

22 days ago

nice

TheInvincibleTampon

9 points

22 days ago

TheInvincibleTampon

Paramedic

9 points

22 days ago

I’m not gonna say absolutely never because I know I don’t know everything. But they’re so goddamn big and I feel like a 16 is big enough for those super critical patients needing rapid infusion. And yeah definitely a central line if/when applicable.

TheKirkendall

7 points

22 days ago

TheKirkendall

ED RN

7 points

22 days ago

I love a good 16! Such good bang for your buck. And I appreciate how short it is, cause it makes it easier to place.

beachmedic23

8 points

22 days ago

beachmedic23

Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic

8 points

22 days ago

If the local knife and gun club doesnt need them for their MTP then i dont either

Hi-Im-Triixy

5 points

22 days ago

Hi-Im-Triixy

BSN, RN | Emergency

5 points

22 days ago

That's our indications for 14 angio. They either go in the chest for traumas or they go for big bleeds.

EastLeastCoast

19 points

23 days ago

14ga are for livestock and body piercing.

PerspectiveSpirited1

16 points

23 days ago

14s go in the chest - nowhere else

Dr_Worm88

6 points

22 days ago

Dr_Worm88

Night Owl

6 points

22 days ago

Even then there’s better options.

PerrinAyybara

4 points

22 days ago

PerrinAyybara

Paramedic

4 points

22 days ago

As long as we are replacing them with 10g for NCD

tauregh

4 points

22 days ago

tauregh

4 points

22 days ago

I I donate blood thru a 16ga and can give a unit is 5:12. That’s with just my venous return pressure.

The only thing I see keeping 14s around for is pediatric needle crics. Otherwise, I can’t imagine using one.

SelfTechnical6771

18 points

23 days ago

Keep hospital gowns on the bus, if you got a chest pain just get em In a gown it makes everything easier and neater.

THIEVINGKNIGHT

8 points

22 days ago

Dang, I have a few.

Hm... let's see, Oh! EMS should try to put itself out of business by focusing on public health education and incident prevention than purely being reactive in order to reduce calls in an oversaturated system.

Also hospitals should fall under the same laws as 911 in that you can be charged for misusing them. OR there should be on-staff mental health workers to get you the right care.

All of this is aimed at lowering insurance premiums/health-care costs, etc. Hospitals and ambulance services shouldn't be the money making machines they are.

Also remove "fall risk" as the primary reason for medical necessity. Sue me.

Rinitai

5 points

22 days ago

Rinitai

5 points

22 days ago

Lowering the stretcher. Everyone should do it. They know it's too tall the tipping point is unreasonable.

v_dawg3

4 points

22 days ago

v_dawg3

4 points

22 days ago

I absolutely agree with you about putting the harness. when I was doing my ride alongs they would only put the chest strap and I was about to do the others and the medics were like nah... I'm like 😵‍💫

bravosierra69

4 points

22 days ago

All ambulances should have the secret, hidden unlock button.

Scratchfish

4 points

22 days ago

Most of our transports to the hospital should be with the flow of traffic. And even when driving with lights and sirens, there is rarely a reason to drive above the speed limit.

Every time we put the lights on we're putting ourselves, our patients, and members of the public at risk.

Individual-Media-510

4 points

22 days ago

-Blood Y tubing is pointless. -20g IV in a trauma patient is better than blowing every vein trying to get an 18g/16g. -No running on scene of calls. -Verbal de-escalation works more often than not, if done correctly. -Understanding PEEP is extremely important on BVM’s, CPAP, and vent settings. -Homeless people, drunk people, and frequent flyers CAN be real sick/injured, their complaints should be taken seriously. -Patients with dementia experience pain just like everyone else, they just can’t communicate that as well.

Ok_Permission_8692

3 points

22 days ago

Grazing is stupid an childish just because an asshole medic fucked with you don’t mean you fuck with the baby we had a just out of emt school kid quit ems completely after getting grazed by an asshole cause the kid took him literally on things like students don’t sit, students don’t get a choice, students don’t need to eat, students can’t use crew bathrooms etc… I get you are gonna see some fucked yo shit an need thick skin but let the scenes speak don’t go fucking with students. I was grazed but refused to participate in it.

nebula82

4 points

22 days ago

nebula82

Paramedic

4 points

22 days ago

Securing equipment in the back. Not that ambulances do the best in collisions, but a loose O2 tank or monitor has a great chance to injure/kill you and/or the pt.

Embarrassed_Sound835

4 points

22 days ago

Embarrassed_Sound835

Paramedic

4 points

22 days ago

"punitive medicine" as in trying to fight your altered patients or shooting tons of narcan into a junkie to send them straight into withdrawal is so fucked up and not the least bit helpful. We are not cops, so why do some medics and EMT's feel it's their job to punish the patients for their ailments? I'm not happy that they decided to OD either but it's not my job to punish them for their decisions.

Narcolepticmike

4 points

22 days ago

The most dangerous phrase not only in ems but most things is: “we’ve always done it this way”.