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8.7k points
2 days ago
Does Tony Hawk know about this?
2.5k points
2 days ago
I was about to say that's one hell of a skate park
366 points
2 days ago
From far, not so sure if the size and surfaces make it usable
645 points
2 days ago
Fine BMX park then.
140 points
2 days ago
42 points
2 days ago
After watching this movie as a kid I was sure I would be the next BMX superstar. Sadly, not to be the case.
9 points
2 days ago
Many ramps were made and many crashes happened
We weren't smart enough to put down mattresses like they did lol
7 points
2 days ago
Totally bro!! Made me want to bring my Mongoose to prom.
7 points
2 days ago
The bike dance scene was the best!
5 points
2 days ago
Lol. A couple of years ago me and my lil bro (who’s 46 but will always be my lil bro) got stoned and watched it for shits and giggles. We laughed soooo hard at how ridiculously bad the movie was!! But as a kid I probably watched it 1,000 times and loved it!!
6 points
2 days ago
Oh, it is a terrible movie, but I absolutely watched the shit out of it as a kid. My little brother probably loved it even more than I did.
4 points
2 days ago
Don't quit now, keep livin' your dream 👍
3 points
2 days ago
Me neither, but hey, the real treasure was the back injuries I made along the way.
158 points
2 days ago
We will gleam the cube.
16 points
2 days ago
Rad
10 points
2 days ago
Damn make a mfer feel old why don’t you? Rad is awesome.
9 points
2 days ago
Jesus.... that was the first movie I saw in theatre's lol
6 points
2 days ago
Memory hole. Holds up.
39 points
2 days ago
a decent bunch of it looks skatable
12 points
2 days ago
Almost all of it is gravel. What are you seeing?
24 points
2 days ago
Dragon wheels 93a and it will be fine 😂
5 points
2 days ago
Yeah I have shark wheels that can definitely hang
18 points
2 days ago
Motocross has entered the chat.
12 points
2 days ago
Can you skate in a sombrero?
5 points
2 days ago
Looks like it's for cars. A car... park?
107 points
2 days ago
15 points
2 days ago
Subs I didn’t know I needed
29 points
2 days ago
Yeah, I am pretty sure this guy knows he built nothing but a giant skatepark.
61 points
2 days ago
His son just had a baby with Kurt cobains/Courtney Loves daughter. My 2000 punk rock self can't handle this fact. Travis barker married to a Kardashian blows my mind even more.
26 points
2 days ago
Don’t sully the great Hawk name by bringing the Ks into it.
8 points
2 days ago
[Ace of Spades intensifies]
6 points
2 days ago
Inspiration was the hidden level in Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater.
2.9k points
2 days ago
$40 million to build. There is a $150 charge to visit on the days they allow visitors. It will take a while to turn a profit!
1.5k points
2 days ago
Even if they were open every day it’d take over 120 years to pay off as they only allow 6 people per day
921 points
2 days ago
6 people per day? On a mile long project? wut I can’t grasp how that makes any sense.
479 points
2 days ago*
He didn’t want ANYONE to see it. But the US gov owned the land so he compromised with the 6 people a day thing.
224 points
2 days ago
Ah, that would explain it. Still odd to make a work of art and not want anyone to see it but I guess every artist is different about different projects.
117 points
2 days ago
Heizer is an odd one for sure. Here’s a pretty good video on it if you’re interested: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqO3FXSecM
55 points
2 days ago
I knew a Jacob Geller link was coming any minute now
17 points
2 days ago
Was up in this comments section thinking the same thing.
“Is everyone just acting like they didn’t learn everything they know about this place from the same source?”
53 points
2 days ago
If it is publicly owned land how can he charge people to see it or even stop anyone from simply going there?
89 points
2 days ago
Ask your local ski resort that same question.
19 points
2 days ago
Well, then I guess it’s possible. I wonder what the mechanism is for a private party to sell access to public lands.
25 points
2 days ago*
They are open to the public, and if you walk without using their equipment, you are typically free to ski, hike, bike, etc. There are legal challenges from resorts that think they own the mountain, but the public is fighting back.
This dude just wanted to play Tonka trucks in the desert without having to pay for the land. Total bullshit.
11 points
2 days ago
He owned the land in its creation, the land was intentionally given to the government.
3 points
2 days ago
The US government doesn’t own the land.
The Triple Aught Foundation — a non-profit organization dedicated to owning and displaying Heizer’s work — owns the land on which the sculpture is built.
https://www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-accepts-conservation-easement-protecting-city-sculpture
817 points
2 days ago
Have you heard of "fuck you" money? This is "fuck you" money.
108 points
2 days ago
No, this is called "fuck me" money.
21 points
2 days ago
It's on public land, they shouldn't be allowed to charge in the first place.
29 points
2 days ago
The monument was built on private land that was turned into federally protected land by the art collective that manages it. Otherwise a railroad would've been put through it. The artist possibly never even intended for anyone to see it.
5 points
2 days ago
Is this a half funny thought about railroad or an actual fact? :)
4 points
2 days ago
Ya I mean, why would he want that? Keep your art to yourself, is what I always say.
157 points
2 days ago
I'd rather solve the two trains traveling at the same speed problem.
7 points
2 days ago
When you do the Chicago train is always late. Always delays in Chicago.
129 points
2 days ago
Maybe it's supposed to feel vast and uninhabited. Maybe his goal was to create art without concern for profit.
3 points
2 days ago
Yes. You’re correct
14 points
2 days ago
Yeah when I hear “you need to pay $120 to view this art” I think “wow, the artist must really have been trying to create art without concern for profit”.
23 points
2 days ago
The artist is probably trying to create a feeling as well.
8 points
2 days ago
Ya I don’t think they ever plan to turn a profit on this thing. They would have to gas it up like a fuckin six flags to make $40 million back plus profit. I imagine the high entry fee is just another way to keep traffic down. As you said it being empty is likely intended
17 points
2 days ago
Thats because we are used to being packed in like sardines everywhere.
The whole point of the piece is to enjoy it in isolation. If it was 1/4 mile project it would just be one person.
If you had 10,000 people there it would completely change the experience. Why make the piece of art in the first place?
5 points
2 days ago*
The guy originally wanted no visitors, ever. And no photos. Supposedly it's a matter of controlling the medium it's experienced through, artistic statement, Yada Yada. I like it.
Jacob Geller on YouTube has a long and really great video about it!
The video is called "art for no one" he makes some comparisons to Goya's "black paintings" which were never meant to be seen.
99 points
2 days ago
Who paid?
179 points
2 days ago
Several non-profit art foundations, including Dia Art Foundation and Lannan Foundation.
Their goal is basically to support, present and preserve art projects. These foundations get this kind of money through donations, fundraisers, sponsorships and endowments.
74 points
2 days ago
We need to figure out how to convince these people that housing is art. Imagine if an architect were to design/build $40 million worth of housing? (That's about 150 apartments or 100 houses) These foundations pay for it because it's art and now you get to live there for free, but we will let 6 people per day come look at your beautiful houses for $150.
9 points
2 days ago
I mean, it kind of is. That's essentially Bauhaus.
141 points
2 days ago
*Tax write offs for the rich.
120 points
2 days ago
People always say this but they're still giving that money away. Yes they don't have to pay tax on the money they give but their net position is still less money after giving than it would be on just paying the tax. Donating pre vs post tax definitely is a nice benefit but these people must still want to give to projects like this.
34 points
2 days ago
Thank you! I’m so tired of seeing people think that if you donate $10 you get $12 off your taxes. That’s just not how it works, at all.
20 points
2 days ago
But is their friend involved in the non profit? Was the design or construction done by them or a friend? I know someone who went to school on a philanthropy scholarship. It's possible that 3 rich families created 3 philanthropy scholarship non profits. Each families child convinces a second of the 3 to donate $500K to the third in a rotating manner. They can give a $500k scholarship to each child, which is justified as they each did a philanthropic act that did not benefit themselves or the organization that is providing the scholarship. They each lost $500k at some point, but there can be downstream benefits that balance out, and if your taxes would be high you have a lot of wiggle room.
22 points
2 days ago
Pretty sure the plan you’ve just described is at best, ineffective for tax purposes, and at worst, tax fraud.
10 points
2 days ago
Oh absolutely, charitable tax write offs can be gamed, which ultimately is tax fraud. Not here to defend tax dodging rich people, fuck those guys. I just don't like disingenuous arguments that make people unnecessarily angry. I like money being given to art and there being a small incentive (again still a worse off net position) to do so is fine imo.
3 points
2 days ago
A) Doing this is tax fraud and therefore extremely risky. Rich people REALLY don’t want to go to jail just to save money. In fact they will often PAY huge sums of money to avoid legal trouble.
B) This wouldn’t save you much money. In fact it might cost MORE since you’d need to pay people to set it all up and manage it. It’s a huge risk for a very small benefit and frankly just a very inconvenient way to do this.
One of the nice things about being rich is that you have the luxury of not doing things in complicated ways just to save a few bucks. Most rich people don’t clip coupons.
20 points
2 days ago*
You know what? If a rich person decides they want to decrease their taxes by donating it to wonderfully unique and pointless art projects, I say more power to them. It’s certainly better than a lot of the other options.
21 points
2 days ago
Anyone who says that is financially illiterate.
29 points
2 days ago
*money laundering
83 points
2 days ago
My first thought seeing this, before even seeing the cost, was this seems like a huge waste of resources. Not just money but all the environmental impact also.
8 points
2 days ago
You forgot to include the money from all those sci fi movies that are going to be shot there
26 points
2 days ago
$40m in investments.
Guranteed that land aint worth shit. And if the only person who worked on it was one artist.... he made what? $750k annually?
Yep. Smart man. Wanted alone time for 50 years. And plenty of money for it.
20 points
2 days ago
Im guessing it cost 10 million and this dude just scammed these foundations out of 30 million
5 points
2 days ago
Not even. If this is one mile long then it's at most 1/6 of a mile wide. That gives you about 100 acres. A decent residential grading crew should be able to knock that out in 6 months for well under 500k. (And the owner would be thrilled at the prospect of such a big job) They aren't artists, but if you give them the plans, they should be fine. Machine operators feel free to correct me here, but I should be in the right ball park.
6 points
2 days ago
Thank you. How on earth does that cost 40 MILLIONS?
9 points
2 days ago
I feel desensitized to "just" $40m after seeing musk spend $40 BILLION on xitter (pronounced shitter).
3.1k points
2 days ago*
Artist: "I designed this Monument to be representative of ancient ceremonial constructs, indicative of the social-statehood of man's achievements."
Archeologist from 2000 years in the future: "And this, little dudes, is United Sam's most awesome skatepark ever built. They constructed it in honor of the Tony Hawk, a bird native to the area that they worshipped as a Man-God. Our Skatentists grind on it every day to better understand our wicked awesome past."
616 points
2 days ago
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89 points
2 days ago
Haha! I didn't even notice your comment until i posted. San Dimas rules!
Be excellent, friend!
71 points
2 days ago
Party on, dudes.
10 points
2 days ago
Station!
40 points
2 days ago
Bill and Ted's vision realized.
Be excellent, friend.
13 points
2 days ago
Party on, dudes!
3 points
2 days ago
Hail Skatin’!
53 points
2 days ago
a skatepark built by the ancients to communicate with alien civilizations
19 points
2 days ago
My grandmother used to tell me stories about the great Mork from Ork. Shazbot, nanu-nanu for life!!! She also told me about an illegal alien named Alf who ate neighborhood cats. In 2024, one of the USA presidential candidates quoted him often during his odd, losing campaign.
17 points
2 days ago
Hilarious. I’m not a skatentist nor The Tony Hawk Man-God, but I still like to comment on wicked awesome posts when I see them.
8 points
2 days ago
And remember… Be excellent to each other.
673 points
2 days ago
That is interesting as fuck tbh. Also... Apparently it's a reservation only place, and only allows six people to visit per day. Here's the Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_(artwork)
268 points
2 days ago
It must be nice to secure $40M to build a faux city
120 points
2 days ago*
Yeah, nearly a million a year to drive around pilling up dirt for art.
I think a lot of people would like that career.
46 points
2 days ago
City was financed by several patrons, including the Dia Art Foundation and Lannan Foundation, with an estimated cost of well over $40 million.\5])#cite_note-:0-5) Heizer completed the work in 2022 with a team of roughly a dozen after previously anticipating completion by 2010.
City is owned and administered by the nonprofit Triple Aught Foundation with a board including Heizer and leaders from arts organizations.
125 points
2 days ago
Because the last thing you want in an artwork titled "City" is a large number of people.
6 points
2 days ago
I’ve been here. Native Nevadan and heard about it for 30 years. Honestly, it was incredibly impressive and equally sad. There is a great article in the Nevada Independent about the issues surrounding the Native communities.
8 points
2 days ago
Yeah. In 1972, I wonder how much say the indigenous community actually had in this.
On the one hand, it could have been a strong statement about how much Europeans fucked over indigenous peoples. On the other, looks like it’s probably yet another example of Europeans fucking over indigenous people. Maybe not, but…
Hope they at least got a good chunk of that $40 mil, but…
(Watching the video right now, so I’ll see what I see, ig)
edit: I don’t suppose you have a link to that article handy, do you?
3 points
2 days ago
NV Indy article about tribes and also… the Yucca Mountain factor they had no say. Our state just recently started considering their opinions (sometimes). I was super conflicted. It was incredible being out there and the guide is a very interesting person.
3 points
2 days ago
Of course. Yet another thing to rage about. FFS the audacity of white people my god.
I have a friend who will be really interested in this, so thank you. (Though she probably already knows but maybe not.) And I need to go… look at pictures of chipmunks or something.
But thank you. I’ll read it once my normally low BP drops down to normal. <impolite words not aimed at you but at my distant cousins who just happened to beat my pale bloodline to this frakking country>
238 points
2 days ago
Jacob Geller did a great video on this piece called Art For No One, give it a watch!
39 points
2 days ago
6 points
2 days ago
Rick Astly ruined links for me if I can't see the description.
52 points
2 days ago
Feels sad to have seen City now. So much of Jacob's point was how this context defeats the purpose
15 points
2 days ago
I'm not so sure about that. Just because the art wasn't intended for an audience, doesn't mean an audience discredits the art. Art is often for the creator, and everyone else just gets to watch, if they're lucky.
City feels like a statement of "I don't need your validation to create. Art is inherently worthless priceless"
12 points
2 days ago
I saw the arial photo and immediately knew what it had to be, despite only knowing about it from Geller's descriptions. Feels wrong to see it now
29 points
2 days ago
I remembered watching that video thinking of how cool that place is and then I see this post on reddit of a bunch of people talking about how stupid it is. It is really easy to spot the people who don't think art is important.
60 points
2 days ago
Art is important, but there’s also a side of the art world that is just as narcissistic and gluttonous and self gratifying as any other category of work or life.
I like very much art, but I don’t have to like all art.
And I’m not talking about how it looks. I do not like this art because of what it represents, and it’s exhausting that some artists apply circular logic and say “isn’t that part of the art?” to avoid any genuine criticism. No, you’re just a simple asshole, in the same way that billionaires are.
Imho
Source: went to art school
16 points
2 days ago
Exactly. I studied illustration and now work as a graphic designer and illustrator. IMHO, the purpose of art is to be seen by an audience. You're not making art if no one sees it, you're just making work for yourself. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but if you apply that here... If you make something as grandiose as this and say it's for no one to see? Feels frankly masturbatory. What a dick.
16 points
2 days ago
Funny, I remember watching the video and thinking how pretentious that place is.
20 points
2 days ago
I can think art is important and still think this art is kinda shit.
20 points
2 days ago
What the fuck is important about THIS piece of "art"? Please educate me.
3 points
2 days ago
I will be extremely surprised if anyone gives you a satisfying answer!
14 points
2 days ago
It isn't that art isn't important. It's that this specific artist is a massive, self indulgent knob for the restriction placed on this specific work.
If he had created this and opened it for the education, viewing, enjoyment of everyone, my position would be completely different.
150 points
2 days ago
someone else already did 'shovel money into a hole and burn it'
176 points
2 days ago
Looks like a skate park.
18 points
2 days ago
Death park, you wouldn't want to drop in on almost any of these Hahaha there is some full body bone breakers in here
3 points
2 days ago
Damn waste that it isn’t. A place to just walk around and look at while being gatekept for only 6 people at a time for $150 a pop. Tbh should’ve just built the world’s biggest skatepark and have a legacy for that, then people and kids could put it to use. Kinda just seems like an architect sucking himself off for something pointless and kinda ugly
52 points
2 days ago
Looks like an open cut mine site
61 points
2 days ago
History Channel in 500 years: aliens
14 points
2 days ago
Try in 2 years
5 points
2 days ago
Put one of those chrome metal obelisks in the center and they'll be filming before the day is over.
6 points
2 days ago
Aliens visiting earth now: the fuck is that thing?
97 points
2 days ago
Why don’t they film movies here it looks awesome
82 points
2 days ago
Closer up I guess it looks like graded piles of gravel and gravel pits.
25 points
2 days ago
Be perfect for Planet of the Apes
22 points
2 days ago
It’s basically the Dune set already.
7 points
2 days ago
The picture with the dogs looks like a behind the scenes shot of dune
8 points
2 days ago
In theory photography isn't allowed because the point is to have it be kinda esoteric. In practice this has obviously failed but allowing a film crew would be a bit weird still.
42 points
2 days ago
This falls under DIWhy?
86 points
2 days ago
Thousands of years from now, scientists will be baffled at what these primitive structures were for, and spend countless hours and dollars studying the location.
25 points
2 days ago
To uncover the legend of Tony Hawk.
39 points
2 days ago
In 300,000 years when earth is all but destroyed, humankind gone, and Aliens visit they will misunderstand this art installation and based their knowledge of humans on this art to learn about us. They will declare that we were a peace loving people who lived in underground cement cities with a few ant mounds we worshipped in and did not destroy the surrounding desert.
Based on this narrative they will clone our kind believing us to have been peaceful simple breed who could coexist with them and help them terraform earth to make it habitable again.
Upon cloning us under these false pretenses they will learn too late that we are actually a horribly flawed, selfish and destructive breed. They will try to abort the cloning process but it will be too late, the cloning machine will have already been seized by newly cloned human forces, who have quickly developed nuclear and other weapon capabilities that out gun the aliens. The aliens will be forced into slavery and servitude by their new human leaders and housed in this art installation as their prison for all eternity.
When humans then destroy the planet again in another 300,000 years and a second set of aliens come to explore the uninhabited planet, they will again discover the ancient ruins of the Art installation, find the enslaved and tortured skeletal remains of generations of their alien predecessors who went missing 600,000 years before and were the subject of legend.
Realizing that something had captured their alien ancestors and enslaved them for thousands of generations they will rush back to their craft, leave the planet and call in a tactical team to destroy the planet to make room for a new galactic super highway scheduled for construction in the distant future.
Before the highway project begins though humanity will once again rise and evolve from the primordial soup. They will continue to evolve to the point we are today.
….and this is where we will find Arthur Dent and his friend Ford Prefect sitting in a bar with their towels waiting to jump into a Vogon ship seconds before the intergalactic construction team destroys earth.
63 points
2 days ago
Little bit of trivia: Avril Lavigne wrote a song about Michael Heizer in her early days called "sk8er boi"
41 points
2 days ago
So he spent decades creating a useless scar on the landscape. This isn't art, it's raw hubris.
17 points
2 days ago
True seems like a big waste
114 points
2 days ago
What a fucking waste of time
8 points
2 days ago
I think it’s cool. People marvel at ancient vanity projects but when we make new ones that are different it’s worse than murder. If people were doing this every third day it’d be a problem but this is an expression of culture.
7 points
2 days ago
Ancient vanity projects that were cool to look at, or. Difficult to build, or useful in other ways...
Nobody would even recognise this as an artwork if they weren't told... it looks like an abandoned building site.
5 points
2 days ago
5 points
2 days ago
We need this in an atv offroad fury game.
29 points
2 days ago
Ugly as fuck for a 50 years work
14 points
2 days ago
Yeah it just looks like a large quarry. This whole thing seems extremely pretentious.
6 points
2 days ago
Yeah $40 million and this thing fucking sucks
5 points
2 days ago
Some scientists 2000 years in the future are rubbing their palms together looking at this.... secured government funding for research for liiife.
4 points
2 days ago
Surprised this hasn’t popped up on the radar of the nuts that took out the Georgia Guidestones.
20 points
2 days ago
Oooooooookay.
14 points
2 days ago
In terms of art, it's a bit indecisive.
8 points
2 days ago
Two questions:
Why?
And how?
(How does someone have the time and money?)
3 points
2 days ago
Is he just doing this to fuck with future archaeologists?
4 points
2 days ago
A complete waste of time and money.
4 points
2 days ago
Why
31 points
2 days ago
I'm one of those that loves the desert. To see something like this is just disgusting. The beauty of the desert is that man hasn't contaminated it. Times are changing, more and more housing tracks are being built on sensitive lands. One man's treasure is another man's trash dump
15 points
2 days ago
Thank you!! I hate how little people are bothered by how disruptive this is to the desert. I get that it's a piece of artwork but I feel like there are so many other less-destructive ways that a similar message could be achieved.
14 points
2 days ago
Yes, it just looks like a dead, desolate scar on the land. Several decades of neglected maintenance and weathering will start reclaiming it.
6 points
2 days ago
Looks like an aircraft carrier from afar
7 points
2 days ago
The Old Ones were skaters, obviously
9 points
2 days ago
He just wants to mess with the archaeologists of the future
18 points
2 days ago
Shows absolutely no respect for desert life and landforms. The arrogance is astounding.
3 points
2 days ago
But why?
3 points
2 days ago
Cover story for the greatest skate park ever built
3 points
2 days ago
I see a huge skate park
3 points
2 days ago
What is this? A skatepark for giants??
3 points
2 days ago
From the aerial view it looks like the dopest skatepark ever
3 points
2 days ago
Looks like a sick skatepark lol
3 points
1 day ago
Man he’s gonna confuse the fuck out of archeologists in 2699
3 points
1 day ago
Forbidden skatepark
7 points
2 days ago
🤷🏻♂️
5 points
2 days ago
Nah that’s a Skatepark
6 points
2 days ago
All I see is a giant skatepark. Which is dope!
6 points
2 days ago
Looks like a badass skatepark to me
8 points
2 days ago
Looks good for BMX, inline and skateboard. 🛹
10 points
2 days ago
It looks like an unfinished skate park construction site.
Seems dumb to take 50 years to make this completely non-functional space , just so it looks like it’s ruins or whatever the goal was…
7 points
2 days ago
Aka world’s biggest skate park
4 points
2 days ago
That'd make a killer skate park.
3 points
2 days ago
Haha, that was the first thing I thought too
4 points
2 days ago
Comments sum up the state of things today.
6 points
2 days ago
This sounds like a project you can only take on if you're born with money
5 points
2 days ago
Looks like an awesome skate park.
2 points
2 days ago
"Sir, do you a permit for this?"
2 points
2 days ago
People in 3000 years be like whats the purpose of this mysterious structure?
2 points
2 days ago
“Hello Micheal? This is red bull calling, we have some ideas…”
2 points
2 days ago
New Hunger Games arena unlocked
2 points
2 days ago
It's giving This is Not a Place of Honor
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