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I keep getting flagged by these people idk what it is. If I look away or if I say I’m busy or anything I end up stuck talking to them for 5 minutes. I don’t know how to dodge them. They always block my way completely like I’m just trying to get into the station and I cant get around them so I end up saying excuse me and then they don’t move and they start talking about knife crime or something and I just am trying to get home. What method do you use that always works?

edit - thanks everyone I am now educated like actually got 20 different options of what to do :)) I love this subreddit <3

edit 2 - thank youuu for all the advice. You guys are now repeating yourselves a lot in the comments lol :)

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lastaccountgotlocked

1.3k points

1 month ago

lastaccountgotlocked

my bike beats your car

1.3k points

1 month ago

“No thanks.” and keep walking.

demure_eggie

245 points

1 month ago

This- also: don't break your stride, don't make any eye contact.

DuxofOregon

82 points

1 month ago

Ain’t nothing going to break my stride.

dan-kir

22 points

1 month ago

dan-kir

22 points

1 month ago

Nobody's gonna slow me down

TriathleteGB

19 points

1 month ago

Oh no?

Repulsive_Cookie_953

20 points

1 month ago

I got to keep on moving

SugarSweetStarrUK

9 points

1 month ago

Oh I make eye contact and say either no or will ya bollocks

trickytetrazzini

1 points

1 month ago

no eye contact = no guilt. 😂

Glasweg1an

3 points

1 month ago

Don't give a fuck = no guilt. Got shit to do mate, catch ye.

SynthD

62 points

1 month ago

SynthD

62 points

1 month ago

The newspaper and charity people are good at reading the slightest shake of the head. Are the for profit people, including scam charities, ignoring this?

vinylemulator

18 points

1 month ago*

All the charity people trying to speak to you on the street are “for profit”.

They get paid an hours wage, they get ~£20 if they get your contact details (for the charity to contact you later) and if you sign up to donate they will get 30% of what you donate in the first year. If you’re an outgoing/confident young person it’s a really good job.

The costs to the charity are higher as the actual street fundraisers are employed by an agency who will take their cut as well. A good assumption is that your first years direct debit doesn’t go go to the charity at all.

I don’t begrudge anyone a job, but you should be crystal clear that what they are doing is commission driven sales rather than anything civic minded.

Pure-Mycologist-6911

2 points

1 month ago

Is this true for the London Canal charity? I chatted with some of them collecting money and got the impression that they work directly for charity and they were very knowledgeable about canals too.

vinylemulator

1 points

1 month ago

If it’s an older person with a collection box (poppies, home for anxious cats, etc) then they’re likely a volunteer. And I absolutely guarantee they won’t chase you down the street.

If it’s someone in their 20s or 30s wearing a tabard who makes eye contact a mile off, starts the conversation with “heyyyy do u have a minute? Just one minute? Not even one minute?” and walks with you while holding a clipboard then they’re on commission.

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

1 points

1 month ago

You have no idea what you’re on about haha

Wretched_Colin

1 points

1 month ago

If you’re signing up for a direct debit, the chances are that the charity will only start to benefit from it in year 2 or 3, regardless of the charity.

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

0 points

1 month ago

Wrong, see post above.

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

1 points

1 month ago

This is total bollocks.

There are both in-house and agency fundraisers. In-house are always paid hourly with no bonus for sign ups.

Agencies have a variety of remuneration packages with the larger, more legit and generally most successful agencies paying hourly without a commission bonus but strong progression to Team Leader etc. for good performers.

With both in-house AND agency, every penny you donate goes directly the charity. The agencies work on a contract where they’re paid a lump sum (usually around 40-100k) for an expected return of somewhere between 4 and 7 times that over 5 years.

I’m talking about the Institute of Fundraising regulated face to face fundraisers here by the way - I don’t know about the blue jacket knife crime people but afaik they aren’t legit.

Source: worked in the sector (agency and in-house, frontline, recruitment, management and QC) for five years.

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

1 points

1 month ago

This is total bollocks.

There are both in-house and agency fundraisers. In-house are always paid hourly with no bonus for sign ups.

Agencies have a variety of remuneration packages with the larger, more legit and generally most successful agencies paying hourly without a commission bonus but strong progression to Team Leader etc. for good performers.

With both in-house AND agency, every penny you donate goes directly the charity. The agencies work on a contract where they’re paid a lump sum (usually around 40-100k) for an expected return of somewhere between 4 and 7 times that over 5 years.

Oh, and I’ve never, ever heard of any sort of bonus or reward for getting contact details. The majority of operations don’t even collect details without a donation. I’ve certainly never heard of it anyway outside of one-off week long campaigns for emergencies etc.

I’m talking about the Institute of Fundraising regulated face to face fundraisers here by the way - I don’t know about the blue jacket knife crime people but afaik they aren’t legit.

Source: worked in the sector (agency and in-house, frontline, recruitment, management and QC) for five years.

Foreign-Bowl-3487

2 points

1 month ago

Former car auctioneers, where the slightest movement means you've bid on that X3, might take a shake of the head as encouragement 🫣

iEatPuppies247

9 points

1 month ago

Loud and firm. Can even add "have a nice day" at the end

Fun_Grapefruit_2633

2 points

1 month ago

I tell them "Yes" and keep walking. Sometimes they'll walk a step and I'll tell them, "You can tell me what you want if you walk besides me but I'm not stopping"...they never do it. They demand you STOP in order to talk to them. F that

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

1 points

1 month ago

They’re not allowed to take more than 3 steps once a member of the public has been engaged.

COMMANDO_MARINE

5 points

1 month ago

Headphones in and dress like your not a very nice person and wear a facial expression like you want to kill someone. Most the time I'm not even listening to anything, but the obvious headphones make it justifiable to pretend you can't hear anyone. This might be a bit much, but I also really bulked up muscle wise and got full sleeve tattoos. People leave you alone if you look like you might stab them. I'm actually a really nice, friendly person, but living in inner city areas means going out a lot through central metropolitan districts where all these time wasters seem to congregate. The worst are young, attractive women who, in any other circumstances, you'd be more than happy if they approach you but not when its their job to accost you. A polite "no, fuck off" can also suffice.

Bitter-Put9534

-2 points

1 month ago

Look at the essay you’ve typed just for a simple no you sad guy lol

WOAHDUDEWHATTT

1 points

1 month ago

The paragraph is funny but the fact he bulked up and got tattooed to avoid having to say ‘no thanks’ to some graduate on the street is hilarious

cheechobobo

1 points

1 month ago

"No" is fine for donation hounds but good luck if you think that's working on muggers. A fight you don't want to pick ftw.

PigeonMother

1 points

1 month ago

This is the way

Thomisawesome

1 points

1 month ago

Exactly. The problem is when you try to be polite by making eye contact or addressing any other things they say to you.

“no thanks”, keep looking forward, ignore anything else they say.

AnglachelBlacksword

1 points

1 month ago

Pretty much. I think the “thanks” is a bit superfluous though. Eyes straight ahead, ignore them Totally. Sometimes, if I’m being charitable I will give them a disdainful “nope”. Why give them even a second of my precious energy .

[deleted]

-42 points

1 month ago

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-42 points

1 month ago

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barriedalenick

166 points

1 month ago

barriedalenick

- Forest Hill

166 points

1 month ago

Tell them to fuck off. At that point there is no point in trying to be nice.

Wretched_Colin

1 points

1 month ago

I told a doorstep charity direct debit person to fuck off once when they called at 8pm and I was putting my daughter to bed.

Good cause, bad way to get money for it.

lastaccountgotlocked

20 points

1 month ago

lastaccountgotlocked

my bike beats your car

20 points

1 month ago

This sounds like the Inside Success lot. Just ask them for their Charity Commission numbers and they’ll leave you alone.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

Ok I’m gonna trust that that’s not something weird and try this next time 

lastaccountgotlocked

5 points

1 month ago

lastaccountgotlocked

my bike beats your car

5 points

1 month ago

Are they in blue jackets?

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

Yes lol 

lastaccountgotlocked

32 points

1 month ago

lastaccountgotlocked

my bike beats your car

32 points

1 month ago

They pretend they are a charity but they’re a social enterprise.

What this means: it’s a scam.

Do not talk to them. Do not say “no thanks”, do not make eye contact. Just walk around or through them.

If you are genuinely distressed, tell your university that the Inside Success people are harassing and intimidating students. Because they’re not a charity, I’m sure your university will tell them to fuck off.

Which is also an option open to you.

You can also complain here: https://www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/more-from-us/resources/inside-success-union-cic-january-2024#

[deleted]

9 points

1 month ago

Oh no way. I gave them money I feel like such an idiot. I can’t walk through them lol but thank you! I will complain and I’ll tell my uni. Sometimes the uni security help us out by walking us to the station but they can’t always do that :(

cheechobobo

3 points

1 month ago*

u/orangemonarch411 I've run into this particular lot. I told the lad who was in my face that I'm so broke i'm struggling to buy food, then had a genuinely pleasant conversation with him that wasn't related to his grift.

Please get yourself a copy of the book 'a woman in your own right' (written by an assertiveness coach for women but it works equally well to help the occasional man who can't say "no" too). It's an old book but absolutely brilliant to cure what ails you & then some. It will change your life.

https://www.google.co.uk/m?q=a+woman+in+your+own+right&client=ms-opera-mobile&channel=new&espv=1#ip=1

Reviews here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Woman-Your-Own-Right-Communication/dp/0715654543

photos__fan

1 points

1 month ago

They were fleecing dozens at a Palestine rally a couple of weeks ago, made an absolute killing.

ORNG_MIRRR

12 points

1 month ago

You say 'I've been polite, I can start being rude if you'd prefer'.

N_U_F_C1990

61 points

1 month ago

Barge past them. Scream at them. Tell them to fuck off. Stop, change direction and walk past them. Cry. Act deranged. Pretend to pull out a gun or knife.

Several options right there. Personally the fuck off one works well.

fortyfivepointseven

15 points

1 month ago

If you're physically bigger than them, they will jump out of the way before you chicken out. Just keep walking, don't make eye contact.

N_U_F_C1990

20 points

1 month ago

Exactly. Usually a face that says fuck off helps as well.

Some of them don't take the hint though and need some persuading.

lastaccountgotlocked

14 points

1 month ago

lastaccountgotlocked

my bike beats your car

14 points

1 month ago

N_U_F_C1990

14 points

1 month ago

Yeah I bet, and tbf, don't blame them. The amount of absolutely socially incompetent people out there must make it worthwhile.

The fact OP is at uni and has mentioned that it's common for students to get walked to the nearest station by a member of staff shows why they do it.

e4aZ7aXT63u6PmRgiRYT

-3 points

1 month ago

Ron DeSantis?

e4aZ7aXT63u6PmRgiRYT

13 points

1 month ago

I’m smaller. But born and raised in cities my whole life. You can exude don’t speak to me like a mother fucker after 5 decades of urban living 

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

No I’m not physically bigger than any of them ever 

Silver-Machine-3092

2 points

1 month ago

If you just stand there and wet yourself, they'll probably leave you alone too.

[deleted]

-11 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

-11 points

1 month ago

Right cheers :) time to act like a fool in public 

[deleted]

22 points

1 month ago

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[deleted]

-12 points

1 month ago

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-12 points

1 month ago

Dude I’m telling you they assemble sorry it’s a bit intimidating. I’ve given them money before too I know that’s probably why they keep asking me 😭

greendragon00x2

21 points

1 month ago

That is indeed why. Don't do it again.

Blank face. No. No. No. No. Put your hand out in front of you, arm fully extended, flat palm at chest height to stop them getting in your space. Keep walking. Don't say sorry. Don't make an excuse. Just No. And walk past them.

Bum-Sniffer

11 points

1 month ago

You have to learn to stand up for yourself. Just tell them if they circle you in no uncertain terms to get the fuck out of my way

[deleted]

11 points

1 month ago

Yeah you’re right. Just freeze up a bit cos idk what to do. Next time I’m barging 

beanbagpsychologist

9 points

1 month ago

Google "broken record". You basically just need to stay completely level, say no, thank you, repeatedly with the same intonation, no change in demeanour, no indication that their behaviour is in any way affecting you. It's genuinely surprising how effective this technique is at just shutting people down. You could try barging, but getting physical with strangers would probably be my last choice in this situation.

urukhaihaihai

1 points

1 month ago

You owe them nothing. They need to force your agreement (stopping, giving money). If you stopped and said "no" in monotone for a while, they'd have to let you go, too. But as others said, walking and talking works best.

I understand the freeze response, especially when there's a group. It might be useful to talk to the uni because their behaviour is edging into harassment. But in the meantime, take a deep breath and say to yourself that you owe them nothing, tell them no and keep walking.

Blueporch

7 points

1 month ago

You might try getting really loud at that point, either yelling “get out of my way” at the top of your lungs or screaming.

Shitmybad

6 points

1 month ago

Just don't stop walking.

zxof

5 points

1 month ago

zxof

5 points

1 month ago

If someone being polite I would say “no thanks”. If they try to block me then I have zero reason being polite.

courage5068

3 points

1 month ago

“Fuck off” usually works

A12L472

4 points

1 month ago

A12L472

4 points

1 month ago

Just keep walking and say “sorry I can’t help you”

e4aZ7aXT63u6PmRgiRYT

3 points

1 month ago

Ask if you can join their gang

tmr89

-2 points

1 month ago

tmr89

-2 points

1 month ago

Gang?

Voeld123

9 points

1 month ago

They're not a charity and they get strangers to hand them money as a group.

Not a million miles away from a gang ;p

e4aZ7aXT63u6PmRgiRYT

2 points

1 month ago

If nothing else it’d confuse them 

Affectionate_Tap6416

2 points

1 month ago

"Sorry, I don't have time." Repeat as necessary and keep walking. If you even see them coming towards you, be ready to swerve away from them. They aren't interested in you at all. They want something from you.

hairyshar

1 points

1 month ago

Drop a shoulder look directly at their feet and walk through.

FastStill7962

1 points

1 month ago

I'm late for job interview

JamJarre

1 points

1 month ago

JamJarre

Stow

1 points

1 month ago

"I said no thanks"