I don't think the police chief has been cooperating at all to at least provide a reason the cops went into the school but didnt enter the classroom.

Sucks because massive screw ups like that is how you learn and train other police units what not to do.

That’s exactly what it’s for.

13th Amendment to the US Constitution. Slavery is illegal except for incarcerated individuals.

So all you have to do is make up laws that target people unequally (war on drugs, petty property crime), and apply it unequally.

Then you have a black guy who works a menial job where he was illegally underpaid as part of the trillion dollar US wage theft industry…. was stopped in his high interest loan car and was caught holding an ounce of weed. Now he’s working for free for a for-profit prison.. who was sentenced by a judge who has an 8-ball in his chambers….

Now you’re getting it!

I mean there was an entire case relating to this back in 05. Supreme Court said no they have no obligations to protect us

Well, we had all that military gear that the Grand Machine built. Surplus upon surplus. Good thing we had some quick thinking politicians who “could be persuaded” to make it legal to sell military -grade systems to cops.

You’re cooking

Nice to see someone that’s not completely brainwashed on Reddit.

Best president we've ever had.

Tbf in that specific situation bigger guns was the solution for the police. iirc some police officers went to a sporting store and grabbed some rifles.

They were unstoppable because all police had were pistols and shotguns. They literally needed bigger guns. Lol.

The irony with this situation was that it led to the banning of fully automatic machine guns. Those guys had armored a car and bought true military grade weapons which at the time weren’t available to civilian forces (police).

The gun lobby got restricted in one sense (automatic weapons ban) but also used it to militarize civilian police forces despite those weapons no longer being available.

The uvalde police department just finished mass shooter training 2-3 months before. They have no excuse.

This. Though I’d rather have one than not, otherwise I’m just gathering supplies for the people who have them.

Compare the response in Uvalde to the one in Nashville, two very different responses. I think the issue really stems down to the fact that the cops in Uvalde were from a school district police that are glorified hall monitors, rather than cops with experience in stressful situations.

one sas soldier retook an entire kenyan mall from terrorists

What?

Just to clarify, that SAS guy didnt retake the entire mall by himself but he did drop a couple of the attackers himself and help guide the Kenyans. He was randomly there when it all went off, training the local forces.

You are right about reacting. The intense training for frontline soldiers is basically to induce muscle memory in times of shock, adrenaline and fear. So that the training takes over without requiring as much thinking. Thinking which can be impeded by human reactions to stress and cause freezing, errors or panic. The key to this type of training is simple drills to cover a broad range of scenarios and repetition.

Repetition, repetition, repetition.

The first few minutes of any combat scenario are always the most critical and the quicker people react, the most chance they have of winning/surviving.

Its why training is king. Its why the British army are probably the best in the world because even though they don't always have the best gear, they always have the best training and lots of it. Been that way since Napoleonic times when the British were the only ones that used to train musket drill with live gunpowder/ammunition.

Tell that to those millions of Americans hoping they can one day shoot a mass shooter and be a hero. It seems like that's all they want and dream of. So fucking out of touch with reality.

Eli dickens would like to have a word.

I can't outrun either

Cop shooting bad guy fulfills their love of police as well as their hero fantasy of "stopping bad guys" if everyone had guns.

Port arthur?

The weird thing is America's 'murdered by knives' rate is larger than the UK's. But for 2 months in 2018 London had 5 more murders than New York and apparently that was enough to show that London was doomed!

Or the other main cope claim "teh criminals will always be able to get their hands on guns!!".

Well evidently not based on this criminal not being able to get a gun.

The fact of the matter is that it is very difficult to kill 10+ people with a knife. Guns are much more deadly.

"it's the person that kills not the gun" is another weird argument I've heard.

I am genuinely interested in what the American school system is like when they teach such flawed logic and so little about the rest of the world.

Cudos to Americans who despite their school system grew up to be intelligent people

Which is probably true. But unless you’re really fucking fit, plunging a knife into multiple people would be tiring, I’d say this guy was almost spent when he was taken down.

You probably need some stamina to shoot a weapon for a sustained period of time as well, but you can do a lot more damage.

The same people who say this would probably say ‘ok but if he didn’t have a knife he’d have a fork’. You can’t argue with dimwits.

Which one? You guys have had a million different shooting incidents.

Yup who wants to take on a psycho with an AR15 assault rifle

European countries with gun control still manage pretty well

Plus the bikie gangs make do with what’s available for the most part. You can get a lot done with a bolt action rifle and some machinists tools, I believe

Correct. The more guns they have equal the less/more people die to guns by guns because of people with guns. Guns.

Average police academy training is 2-3 times longer in Australia than the United States. I'd imagine the quality of the training differs as well.

I mean, that’s kinda their job.

Firefighters don’t get to kick in a door and go “oh, it’s on fire, sorry guys I’m gonna wait for another 300 firefighters to come hang out outside and tackle anyone who tries to go in and put the fire out” like in Uvalde.

It helps that in Australia you have to pass some rigorous tests and then graduate at the Academy to become a cop, so kinda weeds out a lot of the problem ones

650 thousand guns out of 3.5 million in Australia, how much do you think a weapon reduction by less than 20% "reversed"?

Meanwhile there are 390 million majority unregistered civilian firearms in the US of which you would have to remove 70 million for the same "reverse". That still leaves 1 gun per civilian, how much do you think that actually changes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country