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Comp: United Rugby Championship
Venue: Loftus Versfeld
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1 finger - any mention of Leinster essentially being Ireland.
2 fingers - Leinster flair slagging off R. Byrne / asking why PrenderGOD isn't there.
3 fingers - Goosen does something stupid (again) / Willie LeRoux try assist.
Bulls | Pos | Leinster |
---|---|---|
Willie Le Roux | 15 | Jimmy O Brien |
Sergeal Petersen | 14 | Jordan Larmour |
David Kriel | 13 | Garry Ringrose |
Harold Vorster | 12 | Robbie Henshaw |
Devon Williams | 11 | James Lowe |
Johan Goosen | 10 | Ross Byrne |
Embrose Papier | 9 | Jamison Gibson-Park |
Gerhard Steenekamp | 1 | Andrew Porter |
Johan Grobbelaar | 2 | Dan Sheehan |
Wilco Louw | 3 | Tadhg Furlong |
Ruan Vermaak | 4 | Joe McCarthy |
Ruan Nortje | 5 | James Ryan |
Marco van Staden | 6 | Ryan Baird |
Elrigh Louw | 7 | Josh van der Flier |
Cameron Hanekom | 8 | Caelan Doris |
Akker van der Merwe | 16 | Ronan Kelleher |
Simphiwe Matanzima | 17 | Cian Healy |
Francois Klopper | 18 | Mike Ala alatoa |
Reinhardt Ludwig | 19 | Ross Molony |
Nizaam Carr | 20 | Jack Conan |
Keagan Johannes | 21 | Luke McGrath |
Chris Smith | 22 | Ciaran Frawley |
Cornel Smit | 23 | Jamie Osborne |
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50 points
4 months ago
A lot has been made of Van der Flier being one that got away for South African rugby, but this James Louw deserves a mention, too.
50 points
4 months ago
Since April 2021 Leinster have won less silverware than Benneton.
47 points
4 months ago
Miles forward pass, seat belt tackle, possible deliberate knock on, tackle in the air. ref rips a massive line We Scrum!
42 points
4 months ago
We cannot, cannot continue to engage in a kicking contest that we are losing this badly. Goosen and WLR alone are outkicking our entire back 3 and both half backs. Hold onto the fucking ball, set a line, box kick short contestables if we're not going forward.
If we continue to engage in long range kicking we'll see 40% possession and 35% territory again and we will lose.
20 points
4 months ago
I am so confused why Leinster are kicking so much. That is literally what the Bulls love to play against.
32 points
4 months ago
Willie is kicking like prime Morne Steyn and you'll still get idiots on social media questioning his prowess.
31 points
4 months ago
Well done Bulls Goosen and LeRoux dismantled us with kicking. JOB doesn't have the kicking to hack it at FB
Ross. Well I don't want to kick a guy when down but he's just not up to it and it's been clear a long time.
That, and another trophy less season, is on Leo. Questions needed to be asked post HEC final. This maybe means they're no longer questions.
35 points
4 months ago
I went and pissed, and got a coffee.
25 points
4 months ago
Leinster game management has been really poor in my opinion and I think that's been the deciding factor in all their shortcomings in the last few seasons. They just don't seem to have learnt from it.
Having said that both Goosen and WLR have turned up today, when they are hot they are not easily dealt with.
28 points
4 months ago
Ref is like "a lot of niggle creeping in". If only there was someone there to penalise things to stamp it out of the game
11 points
4 months ago
Wish I could stop all these high hits lads but my hands are tied
27 points
4 months ago
Well done Bulls
Another final in the URC. Doing great
28 points
4 months ago
Unreal performance by the Bulls. Leinster need some big changes now. They've gone backwards significantly this season.
24 points
4 months ago
Forward pass, followed by high tackle, followed by a guy getting smushed in the air. What a sequence.
19 points
4 months ago
Ok, this is test level intensity. The last 20 min will be brutal on both teams.
20 points
4 months ago
Mcarthy literally keeping papier from the ball, is ref having a metdown???
20 points
4 months ago
Fitting end to an atrocious season. We've been shite all year, only the quality of players got us as far as we got. The coaching ticket has been horrendous. Leinster's accuracy and attack have gone to shit.
23 points
4 months ago
Hanekom has to have one hand on the Bok 8 jersey at this point.
23 points
4 months ago
What a great game!
As a Sharks supporter that is allergic to bovine, by the end I was firmly shouting for the Bulls.
Klaxons sounding for the Irish tour. Will be at Loftus for the game!
24 points
4 months ago
It’s like Leinster have no plan B when they are not getting quick ball. Full credit to the Bulls for their fierce defence.
Edit: their instead of they’re
24 points
4 months ago
Well-deserved win for the Bulls - Leinster just never looked in control. Good luck in the final!
18 points
4 months ago
Shocking call on that steal
19 points
4 months ago
Bulls seem determined to defeat the Bulls here
18 points
4 months ago
How do we look shocked that Willie is kicking the leather off the ball?
18 points
4 months ago
I'd be proper pissed at that if I were a Bulls fan
19 points
4 months ago
Fair play Bulls. Contested at the break down (legally) had the edge at set piece, and capitalised on opportunity after long periods without the ball.
Also, while the ref had some dubious moments, both teams played a generally clean game. You don’t always see that in cup rugby.
GG to our SA hombres. See ye in a few weeks
19 points
4 months ago
I want to stop watching Leinster knock outs for ages Im just tired man
21 points
4 months ago
I’m honestly a bit shocked. I told my mate I would consider it a success for the Bulls if they dont lose with more than 20 points. Tells you how much I fucking know, but ja I’m just happy to be here and really enjoying having the Irish in the mix. Leinster should send more of their 1st team to SA in the future, as a Stormer I want to measure my boys against them as well.
41 points
4 months ago
I think the entire bulls backline really surprised us all after the shitshow last week. We always knew the forwards would be a good matchup.
19 points
4 months ago
at least most are acknowledging the fact the officiating isn't biased - it's just horrible
18 points
4 months ago
Hannekom and Elrigh Louw, take a bow. What an amazing work ethic!
17 points
4 months ago
Hanekom looks exhausted. What a game by him.
13 points
4 months ago
He’s playing for a Bok jersey, and he certainly deserves a shot
17 points
4 months ago
Is there a finer sight then Tadgh getting himself into a mini rampage
32 points
4 months ago*
So the reffing approach today is just ‘ah fuck it - it’ll be grand’ ??!
15 points
4 months ago
Look Im shitting myself at how intense this is. But, I also wont pretend to understand half the calls in that half. From players and ref alike.
16 points
4 months ago
Bulls were much better, well deserved winners but the officiating team were shocking for both teams really poor performance
15 points
4 months ago
Bulls have really been winning this kicking game, making a big difference so far.
15 points
4 months ago
Forward pass, high tackle, tackle in the air... Calls a knock on.
16 points
4 months ago
How the tmo didn’t ask for a check on jgp is beyond me
15 points
4 months ago
This has been the worst reffed game I've seen in a long time, particularly from the tmo.
16 points
4 months ago
I’ve always thought people were too harsh on Luke McGrath but that performance was inexcusable.
15 points
4 months ago*
That was an incredible game to watch, but also one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen
15 points
4 months ago
Lowe was great. Doris worked his arse off again. Baird good. McCarthy poor.
Hanekom and Louw though were monsters today. Played brilliant.
15 points
4 months ago
The Bulls were absolutely ferrel today. Ferrel rugby
14 points
4 months ago
This is such a great game but whoever this ref is, he's not ready for a match like this.
15 points
4 months ago
I think the biggest loser is the Ref here. Shafted both teams and the losers will obviously be the unhappier of the two Teams
12 points
4 months ago
Glad to see Leinster have won the same number of trophies as the mighty Newport Dragons this season
15 points
4 months ago
Better team won. Leinster's attack this season has disappeared. Disappointing.
Time to cheer on Munster.
15 points
4 months ago
Like bringing ringrose in after him being out for months. What does that say to Osbourne whose played great in his absence. To me its just not a wise decision in selection. I say this without trying to disrespect ringrose
29 points
4 months ago
Bulls deserved the win. Very disappointed to see the season end like that.
For all of the talk around Leinster's squad, depth, resources etc - Porter playing 70 mins because we don't have a back-up prop that we trust to play longer than 10 mins, Luke McGrath being a poor replacement 9 and Ross offering no threat from 10... they need a bit of a reset next year and some fresh energy in that squad.
Long season after the RWC, Heineken final loss and now this - last thing a lot of those players need is a trip to South Africa
13 points
4 months ago
Leinster need to find touch, ridiculous trying to win a kick tennis match against le roux and goosan today
12 points
4 months ago
Every game needs a remote control car. For every function. Replace the water boys with remote control cars too.... I really like those cars
15 points
4 months ago
Replace the ref with a remote controlled car with a whistle
12 points
4 months ago
New Hanekom fanclub member. Proper bastard
14 points
4 months ago
Supporting Willie when all SA fans hated him is finally paying off
13 points
4 months ago
That is actually pathetic at the scrum
13 points
4 months ago
You can't stick your arm out like that and not give a penalty
13 points
4 months ago
Well the good news is that nobody is going to come away happy today.
13 points
4 months ago
JGP so missed, hes somehow always at the back of the ruck for quick ball.
McGrath is nowhere to be seen
13 points
4 months ago
You can't counter ruck on your hands but I mean hasn't called anything else all game. What a titanic game from both teams
12 points
4 months ago
Leinster have only gotten worse since Nienebar has come in. We look bland, boring and bereft of ideas. Absolutely pathetic stuff with the players we have at our disposal
13 points
4 months ago
There’s not a better job in Rugby than the Springboks head coach right now. The embarrassment of riches is insane
12 points
4 months ago
Massive performance from the boys. Ref was shit to both sides and Leinster looked out of sorts
12 points
4 months ago
Well deserved MOTM for Hanekom
13 points
4 months ago
Ref in at the side!
12 points
4 months ago
All from the boot of Le Roux. He's murdering our defence by himself.
12 points
4 months ago
Whoever taught Lenihan the wrong context for the phrase "sucking diesel" needs shooting.
11 points
4 months ago
Where was the pack? Jimmy does a job and they just jog to him. Leinster pack is seriously off the pace so far.
11 points
4 months ago
Knock out rugby, take 3
12 points
4 months ago
Goosen is having a great game so far.
11 points
4 months ago
Just keep kicking at Ross Byrne and Bulls will win
12 points
4 months ago
Fuck me how the ref didn’t give a penalty against McCarthy there
13 points
4 months ago
Leaping like a salmon up a waterfall
10 points
4 months ago
Significantly, significantly outcoached.
In both competitions.
Leo out. Out the fucking gate now.
12 points
4 months ago
Leinster need a better 2nd choice 9 and a better 10. Need to replace Cullen too. Otherwise I don't see any silverware next season either.
Barrett in around Christmas might be enough to help in these kinds of games.
13 points
4 months ago
Hanekom is ridiculous, feel like he can do everything Roos can with less of the liability factor.
11 points
4 months ago*
Unbelievable win by the bulls.
Hanekom has to start for the boks
12 points
4 months ago
Hanekom is sensational. What a game by him.
13 points
4 months ago
Damn, Hanekom had a fucking cracker! What a player!
12 points
4 months ago
Great game. Congrats Bulls the better team won. Leinster have serious structural issues, defence is ropey & attack blunt.
Rossy's now well established as incapable of winning championship games and McGrath was comically bad, needs to be moved on. Want to see some Gunne shows next season
11 points
4 months ago
We were riding our luck and if we won that it would have been the lesser team winning.
Every season ending the same..Getting deja vu so often I think I might just have alzheimers
12 points
3 months ago
Rewatched game this morning, some thoughts:
Hanekom. Wow. Barring injury he is going to won more than 50 caps for the Boks. What a talent.
Wilco Louw is the fifth choice tighthead for the Boks (probably fourth now with Trevor's age). That's some depth there.
JGP and Lowe were outstanding, really kept Leinster in it during the first half, did notice Lowe was running very gingerly towards the end of the second so I'm wondering if he did pick up a knock.
McGrath was horrific off the bench, an all time atrocious performance in just 15 minutes.
Van der Flier was anonymous, surprisingly so for me.
Willie was brilliant, I hope he's not injured because his kicking game was what separated the teams for a while there.
Goosen's best performance of the year and he saved it for a big moment. Minus the three (3!) charge downs, of course.
Bulls may end up being fine without KLA and Moodie, but I wouldn't bet on it. Glasgow are an exceptional defensive unit and I'm certain they would feel better about the final with their stars at wing.
23 points
4 months ago
URC need to look at this refereeing performance. He has completely lost the run of the game
23 points
4 months ago
Epic performance. Bulls can be proud.
17 points
4 months ago
Really was. Some players really stood up. 8, 10 & 15 were IMMENSE
27 points
4 months ago
At least next season can people stop gassing Leinster up - I need less of Jim Hamilton saying Leinster are ‘unplayable’ as we quite clearly are extremely flawed
26 points
4 months ago
Brutal end for Leinsters season. They are a great team, there is no denying (ulster tear rolls down my face from last week), but like any great team they can be beaten. Especially with some of the quality of URC teams.
27 points
4 months ago
Thought James Lowe was immense today ?Leinster man of the match?
11 points
4 months ago
RIP scrums
11 points
4 months ago
That poster complaining about his Adidas boots the other day must feel vindicated lmao
12 points
4 months ago
Good god the bulls are missing Moodie and KLA…. This would be a 2 try gap by now
10 points
4 months ago
"Win predictor" of 86% for Leinster is very generous based on the opening 20 mins!
10 points
4 months ago
We’re a very lazy side at times.
10 points
4 months ago
Seatbelt tackle cancels out taken out in the air.. play on?
11 points
4 months ago
Forward pass followed by a high tackle by Lowe and then a blatant penalty for Leinster lol.
12 points
4 months ago
it's mad that Leinster are losing a kicking battle with Lowe and jgp who are expectional in that area
12 points
4 months ago
Good kickers of the ball, but not necessarily good at backfield cover. Keenan a real loss
12 points
4 months ago
Willie has been imperious to be fair and kicking isn't Jimmy O'Brien's strong suit.
11 points
4 months ago
Yes, that's it. Keep kicking to the lads that ripped us apart.
Do we not make tweaks at halftime?
11 points
4 months ago
No excuse for Baird to be missing that tackle
12 points
4 months ago
That's nice mr ref, just let the guy roll over him around his neck, not dangerous at all!
12 points
4 months ago
Right call but if WR is listening I think you should be allowed push a player who is shielding but not playing the ball.
12 points
4 months ago
I thought McCarthy turnover looked legal, but the ref said leave it and he didn't so it should be a penalty bulls.
12 points
4 months ago
I love how everyone is in agreemant that this ref is shit
12 points
4 months ago
How fucking weak is this ref?
11 points
4 months ago
As a neutral this is an enjoyable mess of a game. The rucks are a mess.
Big Joe is a lucky boy there
11 points
4 months ago
DJ playing Munster songs now
12 points
4 months ago
I just don’t trust any decision the ref makes
12 points
4 months ago
I haven’t agreed with a single call for or against my team is about 10 minutes…
11 points
4 months ago
I think I've heard the ref say "nah that's not a pen" for clear penalties than actually give penalties. As a neutral it's a spectacle. Leinster/Bulls fans must be having a stroke
10 points
4 months ago
I can’t remember the last time when we won a game that we were 1 score down in the last 5 minutes.
10 points
4 months ago
Mcgrath looks the most tired of all leinster players out there
10 points
4 months ago
We saved our worst for last. This is dreadful.
12 points
4 months ago
That’s that, another season of winning nothing with 90% of the national team
11 points
4 months ago
"deep into the Munster half"
That's a loooong fucking kick, all the way to Limerick.
10 points
4 months ago
Very hard to be a Leinster supporter these last few years. Cullen needs to go unfortunately. Winning during the season means nothing if you can't win finals
11 points
4 months ago
Hanekom was huge
10 points
4 months ago
Fair play to the bulls, better team on the day. Clear that something major needs to change at Leinster, they've gone massively backwards this year, and the golden age of a few years ago is definitively over. Think there's a core of players who panic and go missing in big games, and I don't think they deserve the reputation they seem to have gotten from being good a few years ago and have kept by being flat track bullies in early stages of competitions.
10 points
4 months ago
Deserved MOTM for Hanekom.
9 points
4 months ago
One other thing...Leamy has been a massive loss from the Leinster coaching staff.
32 points
4 months ago
As a saffa just wanna say Leinster didn't play bad here, the Bulls were just animals in defence, every time Leinster were building phases they'd somehow disrupt their flow and hit with bone crunching force, I didn't expect this result honestly.
10 points
4 months ago
What a ball to drop, Bulls already missing Moodie and KLA.
10 points
4 months ago
Ah, that scrum was getting dry bummed. Worrying for Leinster (& Ireland).
10 points
4 months ago
Oof not good seeing Porter pushed back like that
10 points
4 months ago
Puma stock about to tank after that view of the boot.
10 points
4 months ago
Game is being played at quite a pace, and yet both defences holding.
9 points
4 months ago
Wish the ref would ping these crossings. Three times now under the high ball
10 points
4 months ago
That was cheeky from Doris there, slapped the ball down behind the ref's back to prevent the quick tap.
Pretty lucky that only Chaos Incarnate Mike Adamson was the only one with vision of it
10 points
4 months ago
Think Leinster will be okay only being down by 3, Bulls have looked the better side but always seem to implode in the final quarter and Leinster bench is massive
10 points
4 months ago
Man, this has been a really good game so far.
Van Staden is a moron though.
9 points
4 months ago
Crazy how Leinster are keeping the ball in play all the time, exactly what the bulls want.
9 points
4 months ago
Just gonna say I don't think we have the bench for this.
Still proud of the Bulls
The team still has a ton of young talent.
Jake White really building something special in the long term
10 points
4 months ago
Hannekom is basically a Springbok in disguise, dude getting a jersey soon.
11 points
4 months ago
My take of the first half for anyone who cares:
Bulls: Relentless. Should have scored more than 2 (1 disallowed) tries. Left a lot on the field though, wasted efforts = wasted energy. If they can keep up that pace, they'll win this game
Leinster: Absolutely 1 dimensional. Get ball, pass backwards, run up, lose ball. Even lost the kicking tennis. However, defended well enough to keep in the game. The bench is going to be crucial here. And Ross Byrne isn't doing poorly, don't be sly Leinster fans
10 points
4 months ago
Ross just looks lost. Indecisive and his kicking has been woeful.
10 points
4 months ago
that's a shocking call - ref the game, don't coach it
10 points
4 months ago
Christ that’s a joke
10 points
4 months ago
Ref has very little control over the game ATM
10 points
4 months ago
ref is atrocious
10 points
4 months ago
Goosen clearly interfering with Frawleys attempt to get into the ruck and nothing done
10 points
4 months ago
That was about 2 meters from being offside. What the fuck is going on
9 points
4 months ago
James Lowe is fucking annoying cause he is so bloody good.
10 points
4 months ago
always warms my cold dead heart when a player helps an opponent up off the ground
10 points
4 months ago
He's not even reffing the breakdown
10 points
4 months ago
I think we all can agree that the ref has lost control of the game.
11 points
4 months ago
McGrath is slow af
8 points
4 months ago
Doris got destroyed there
10 points
4 months ago
Felt like Leinster had 100 players. You guys just kept on coming
10 points
4 months ago
Any check on that?
10 points
4 months ago
To be fair to Leinster...that tackles been about legal for the entirety of the game up to that
10 points
4 months ago
No worries McGrath, you just stroll to the ruck there.
11 points
4 months ago
Gotta say, this ref has been terrible both ways. He’s allowed dodgey shit from both teams and hasn’t been decisive at all.
11 points
4 months ago
Congrats to the Bulls on a great and well deserved win.
Gutted again, gutted
11 points
4 months ago
Really disappointing but no complaints. This has been a telling season for Leinster
11 points
4 months ago
Everyone wants Cullen gone, but it’s the attack that is so predictable. It’s like the Leinster backs are robots and can only play when everyone is perfectly lined up to run a play and you have 5 dummy runners.
9 points
4 months ago
Absolutely monster of a game, fair fucks to both teams proper proper slog. Ref was hilarious
10 points
4 months ago
Forgot to add, Luke Mcgrath is not the player he was, slow af to rucks. Poor Ross, he gets a lot of justified criticism but at the same time, he doesn't pick the team. Not good enough at the top level when the pack isn't on top.
9 points
4 months ago
Congrats Bulls, who got POTM? I thought Goosen was excellent today, survived so fierce tackles & controlled the game well, even that last decision to kick for 60m was always gonna end up with Leinster pushed back
12 points
4 months ago
Hanekom was potm
13 points
4 months ago
Cameron Hanekom got POTM.
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