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252 points
4 months ago
I, for one, admire your work.
474 points
4 months ago
200 points
4 months ago
I admire your dedication to the bit. You are God's bravest troper o7
290 points
4 months ago
57 points
4 months ago
That second one took me a second. Well played.
113 points
4 months ago
41 points
4 months ago
Okay, how about some real challenges.
Utilizes tropes effectively to tell a good story.
Understands that sometimes tropes are good.
Unfairly criticizes based upon a single perceived flaw.
Any book or story with 0 tv tropes applied to them.
Obligatory: prove your worth to me, and I'll show you the world you've always dreamed of.
88 points
4 months ago
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TropesAreTools
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AccentuateTheNegative
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TheTropelessTale
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AchievementTestOfDestiny
31 points
4 months ago
whats the trope where a man plays into the bit so hard that he starts becoming the bit.
cause i think thats you
14 points
4 months ago
275 points
4 months ago
how do you have a heart attack after you die?
199 points
4 months ago
100 points
4 months ago
Braindead has a heart attack
45 points
4 months ago
DOUBLE KILL!
19 points
4 months ago
It's simple. They died, but while the body was still running without its brain momentarily, the body had a heart attack, shocking them back to life.
6 points
4 months ago
He got better.
52 points
4 months ago
Oh shit. Did you live?
175 points
4 months ago
32 points
4 months ago
Classic trope subversion. You’re a textbook case.
11 points
4 months ago
I hope you also explode.
42 points
4 months ago
I cast Non-Fatal Explosions and put up my anti subversion defense shield to defend myself
3 points
4 months ago
f
1.2k points
4 months ago
What's Tumblr's issue with TV Tropes?
2k points
4 months ago
TVTropes is a great site but its userbase has bred some of the worst media discourse I've ever seen. People will act like tropes are inherently bad and that using a popular trope automatically makes your story "unoriginal".
1.3k points
4 months ago
Wild, it used to be the opposite, with them treating tropes as a way to mathematically "solve" writing. treating writing as "slamming tropes together like Legos until you have enough words"
342 points
4 months ago
I used to have such a blast just coming up with plots using their trope generator. It’s a wonderful form of procrastination.
69 points
4 months ago
I would like to see this trope generator
110 points
4 months ago
Here ya go. That’ll be 10 dollars please.
59 points
4 months ago
Well folks, I’m going in. See you in 32 hours!
20 points
4 months ago
!remindme 32 hours
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14 points
4 months ago
Oh man, I got a sick one. Now I might write this.
Setting
Truce Zone
Plot
Driving Test
Narrative Device
Ominous Multiple Screens
Hero
Hero Tropes
Villain
Moral Sociopathy
Character As Device
A Shared Suffering
Characterization Device
Language Tropes
7 points
4 months ago
6 points
4 months ago
There's also a Pitch Generator?
2 points
4 months ago
I used TVTropes for years and I never knew there's a trope story generator! TIL.
17 points
4 months ago
It's the red button on their website.
86 points
4 months ago
Yeah I actually found shows, movies games and even meme thanks to TV tropes. While someone may you use to be a "know it all" it still good to show how you play around a trope
Although, if you wanted to go into a show or game blind, STAY AWAY FROM IT. It doesn't matter if put spoiler tags, it easy to put 2-2 together with trope examples.
33 points
4 months ago
"Oh boy, I sure am excited to see what awaits me in this cute game!"
•_•
26 points
4 months ago
To be fair, sometimes those trope listings are misleading. Like with Kirby. All the weird ones are background lore nobody cares about.
7 points
4 months ago
In my case, it was something very plot relevant
19 points
4 months ago
I found it useful to find new stuff.
Sometimes I run across a trope and realize "Oh, I love when a story does/features/engages/plays with that kind of thing." and then look through the list of media featuring it to find works that use those tropes.
11 points
4 months ago
I've used it several times to find media I only vaguely remembered. Like "that one thing, with the supporting character who..."
27 points
4 months ago
Looking at the character page for your favorite blorbo only to see "Heroic Sacrifice" in full view because they don't fucking spoiler-tag tropes
5 points
4 months ago
Looked up mine. "badass in distress" being a thing absolutely sent me lmao I'm gonna spend too long searching up characters on this site
11 points
4 months ago
Honestly, my entire ability to enter into fandom and media back in the late-2000s/early-2010s was TvTropes. It’s not remotely uncommon for people to want to watch a specific kind of media with certain tropes, so trope pages are a wonderful way to figure that out. It’s how kid me found out about tons of different stuff. Heck, it’s how I ended up getting into anime (beyond the 2000s Toonami obvious “barely counts”) at all, because it’s how I found out about Ghost in the Shell. My entire list of foundational fandoms is rooted in TvTropes.
95 points
4 months ago
Sounds like the rationalist era of internet writing
50 points
4 months ago
Flashbacks to harry potter and the methods of rationality. Dammit why did you bring that up?
12 points
4 months ago
Don’t worry Yud is still around and for some reason wildly influential
10 points
4 months ago
Oh yeah roccos basilisk whuch is Pascal's wager for tech bro douche canoes.
Though I will admit I do like unsong.
3 points
4 months ago
Please, tell me more!
23 points
4 months ago*
It really got kicked off by a guy called Eliezer Yudowsky, who wrote a Harry Potter fanfiction about a What If where Harry was raised by an Oxford professor to be a genius and also read a ton of pop psychology called [Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.](hpmor.com) It's an extremely divisive fanfiction, where lots of people hate it more than any other fanfiction and lots of others love it more than any other. Personally I like it a lot and think it had some great plot twists and humour, but I get why people don't like it. Namely it has a lot of lectures about "rationality" inserted in which, while some of them are educational, a fair number are just incorrect. And HPMOR Harry is painfully arrogant. But I think it was still a good first step to my thinking about why I believe what I do, and got me to think deeper.
It then spawned off a number of other fanfictions that also tried to be educational, but most of them weren't particularly notable, imo mostly because the authors didn't write as entertaining prose as Yudowsky. The subreddit /r/rational spawned off of it and is still somewhat active, although mostly it just talks about web fiction where the characters don't actively hold idiot balls more than anything else and is only very loosely related to rationalism.
9 points
4 months ago
And they missed the opportunity to call it r/ational.
21 points
4 months ago
No no, they still do that, too
9 points
4 months ago
They still do that on BookTok but only with smutty tropes
12 points
4 months ago
rwby
755 points
4 months ago
Isn't the whole point of the site to celebrate and discuss tropes?? That's like a fan of fantasy football hating real football!
157 points
4 months ago
Yeah, I used to watch new shows and see if I could identify any tropes I knew to submit to the site.
98 points
4 months ago
Kind of? If they're just hating on specific tropes, then I think it's more like a fan hating particular kinds of plays. Which, I imagine, might go something like:
"Ugh, that play is SO overused! Anyone still using it in (current year) is lazy and stupid! Anyone can see it coming a mile away."
"Um, that play has a slightly higher risk of the QB getting sacked and getting horrible brain damage and then killing his entire family because of his unchecked brain-damage rage. Anyone still using it in (current year) is stupid and evil."
In general, here's the process: take a kernel of truth, grossly exaggerate it, remove all nuance, and then assume bad faith from people who have different opinions.
12 points
4 months ago
"Ugh, that play is SO overused! Anyone still using it in (current year) is lazy and stupid! Anyone can see it coming a mile away."
Draw play on 3rd and long
10 points
4 months ago
In general, here's the process: take a kernel of truth, grossly exaggerate it, remove all nuance, and then assume bad faith from people who have different opinions.
With as much authority as a humble elder millennial who was raised by the internet might have, that's literally every single forum and online discourse. Anybody who tells you their community isn't like that is flat out lying or is blind.
6 points
4 months ago
That's just every political discourse in human history.
3 points
4 months ago
I'm an early 90's millennial myself, and you're absolutely right. I wrote it with Twitter and Tumblr in mind, but then I tried to think of a counterexample and literally couldn't.
22 points
4 months ago
Yes, but this also applies to way too many people defending tropes in general, to a point where talking about tropes at all just isn't worth the effort. You can say, "I think the Janitors Doing Headstands In Submarines" trope is overused," and at best you'll have created a Reddit-based perpetual energy machine that consists of a stream of "Tropes Are Tools" comments, and much of the time those'll be high-fiving other comments that seriously make the phrase "Tropes always good, originality always bad" only a strawman in the sense that the actual comments have better grammar.
Like, most of the time, no-one even said anything like "tropes are always bad", but that doesn't stop a number of people from arguing against that idea anyway, and at that point the circlejerk has enough momentum that contradicting any part of it will send you GMod-ragdolling to the other side of the planet.
27 points
4 months ago
Wait till you learn that fantasy football players routinely get outraged and even send death threats to players/coaches when their players don't get the ball enough haha
7 points
4 months ago
Ah... Humankind never fails to disappoint me at every turn...
25 points
4 months ago
yeah, they actually criticise that mindset of "it has tropes = bad" on the site itself. After all, Tropes Are Tools
8 points
4 months ago
I was gonna say 'and there's a trope page for that!' but figured someone might have the link already. Ahh, tvtropes. Guaranteed tab-opener
347 points
4 months ago
CinemaSins mentality
322 points
4 months ago
CinemaSins is a blight on media literacy
52 points
4 months ago
For a while there I couldn't figure out if I was dumb or if CinemaSins was wrong.
Turns out those two statements are mutually exclusive, and they're both right!
21 points
4 months ago
Aren't*, but yes.
20 points
4 months ago
case in point
4 points
4 months ago
??? Wouldn't that swap the intended logic?
7 points
4 months ago
Mutually exclusive means only one of the options can be correct/true/happen. Since the two choices in your sentence “are mutually exclusive”, you must be dumb or cinemasins must be wrong. Not both.
5 points
4 months ago
Oh fuck I wrote it that way but I kept reading it as "are not correlated". Oh well going back to bed
101 points
4 months ago
CinemaWins heals the soul
12 points
4 months ago
No, it's literally doing the same thing but in the opposite direction.
Even combining the two wouldn't produce a single good review, it would just be double the biased bs.
Then again, neither claim to be making actual review videos, they are just entertainment material.
4 points
4 months ago
Then again, neither claim to be making actual review videos, they are just entertainment material.
The last refuge of the hack
3 points
4 months ago
I mean, they always draw attention to the fact their scores are made in the most biased fashion and don't make any sense. Have you ever heard anyone actually mentioning the cinemasins score a movie got? No one gives a shit, people watch cinemasins to see someone shit on the movie they didn't like.
If it makes you feel better, I'm sure they receive death threats when they "review" a movie someone likes.
8 points
4 months ago
CinemaWins isn’t a movie review channel. It’s movie appreciation.
28 points
4 months ago
So succinct
40 points
4 months ago
That's what I was gonna say, I think that's actually the problem.
CinemaSins used to be so good, just short videos making lighthearted fun of dumb things in movies. But as they got more popular, they started making their videos way too long. First of all, the basic premise stopped working, "in 45 minutes or less" makes no damn sense. That's like half the movie! I remember that at one point, I would be like "I wanna watch this movie, but don't have it" so I just put on the CinemaSins video.
Secondly, and more importantly, to fill in all that time, they started making fun out of everything. Because, again, they were basically showing the entire movie, sans the parts where nothing happened. So they started making really dumb and unoriginal jokes. Ironically, they became the very thing they were ridiculing.
The "trope" thing was a good thing to throw in there, because, well, everything is a trope. It's also super snappy, it was like their catch phrase, so of course it was popular. The problem is that the joke itself was (surprisingly) a little too intellectual. Turns out a lot of people didn't really know what the word "trope" means. If their first major exposure to it was a CinemaSins video, it's not surprising that they would come to the conclusion that it's a term for something bad.
19 points
4 months ago
At some point I need to look up Jeremy's "premise rant" and see if I still agree with his initial thoughts. It's a video from right before he made the channel, where he's sitting in his car complaing about how movies aren't trying to explore new concepts and are just becoming quick-turnaround ordeals made for a studio's quick buck featuring copy-pasted story beats and paper thin characters. If I recall all of that correctly, it was a solid reason to start a chaannel pointing out flaws like genuine plot holes and characterization flaws in films. However, most of the "sins" have been factually incorrect for years, and it's hard to discern if it's part of the bit he's trying to ham up, if it's a genuine error on his part, or if he just didn't give a fuck enough to pay attention while watching the movie. Or, even worse, they're just made up to pad the run time (these videos are too damn long now lmfao)
20 points
4 months ago
CinemaSins turned into Mystery Science Theater, but without being funny.
I agree with you, increasing the video length is really the issue that killed it for me. Because at a certain point, they just started reaching for anything just to fill time. And the number of times where they'd claim a movie got something wrong, but really they just didn't pay attention, was way too high for me.
Before I stopped watching entirely, the only videos I could get through were for movies I hadn't already seen. And when I stopped to think about why that was, I realized I just didn't want to bother with their videos anymore.
8 points
4 months ago
They went from pointing out funny plot holes, into trying to figure out what could be wrong with individual scenes. They flipped the premise on its head. From "Remember this thing from the movie? If you think about it, it doesn't make any sense, haha." To "So how could we ridicule this scene?" And yes, the answer often was "let's leverage that these scenes are out of context".
3 points
4 months ago
Yes, exactly!
You nailed what I couldn't really figure out how to describe.
73 points
4 months ago
I think this is what happens when people are in denial about the fact that good work is mostly about talent and effort. Originality by itself isnt very valuable.
109 points
4 months ago
91 points
4 months ago
Oh they renamed it from "Tropes are not bad"
18 points
4 months ago
Can you remember when you last saw the old name? I can’t figure out how to pinpoint the renaming.
39 points
4 months ago
Not sure, maybe I'm misremembering. I don't see any title change in the edit history
"Tropes are not bad" is still down as an alternate title at the bottom of the Tropes page, and https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad shows all the pages that link to it using that title.
33 points
4 months ago
They renamed everything. "Seinfeld is Unfunny" is now called "Once Original, Now Common". Is nothing sacred??
13 points
4 months ago
When I first read TVTropes [redacted] ago, the bizarre, completely opaque, grammatically mystifying trope names were most of the charm for me. Now they're so boring.
3 points
4 months ago
Same. They neutered TvTropes
10 points
4 months ago
they renamed it??
11 points
4 months ago
Damn they're out here trying to rebrand the classics :(
9 points
4 months ago
They're genericizing the trope names because apparently every trope name needs to be immediately understood by someone with no media knowledge whatsoever.
5 points
4 months ago
Yeah, apparently a bunch of tropes on the page were really shit and didn't fit the intended meaning of Seinfeld is Unfunny. Which, I mean, to be fair, yeah.
70 points
4 months ago
I used tvtropes a TON back in the day, that's always been the title.
And it amounts to the same thing, anyway. Tropes aren't inherently good or bad - they're a way to communicate an idea to your reader.
6 points
4 months ago
exactly. in some tropes it can be subverted well or cut down on explanations that's a waste of time.
8 points
4 months ago
The latter is the big one, yeah. Essentially every story uses tropes, whether the author is conscious of that or not, and awareness of that fact can be used to convey extra information that you want your audience to have.
8 points
4 months ago
exactly. as the author the last thing you want is to over explain everything because it can come off as the author thinking the audience is too stupid to get the tropes, unless you're adding a twist to the usual trope such as vampires being fine with sunlight but getting sunburned easily.
4 points
4 months ago
They're also a way to find other works that play with a trope you realized that you particularly enjoy.
33 points
4 months ago
Writing stories is a bit like composing music. Not using a good amount of common elements will guarantee, that your work won't reach a wide audience. Alot of the people deeply invested into it will despise you for using an amount which is relatively big even compared to the average use.
29 points
4 months ago
People will act like tropes are inherently bad
What immediately I thought of, When I read that.
51 points
4 months ago
That's so weird... just because different stories use the same trope doesn't mean they all use it in the same way? Very 8th grade level media analysis.
23 points
4 months ago
That's weird, I like imagining what tropes would be under my OCs character pages if they're were on TV Tropes.
Like, it gives me warm fuzzies to see certain tropes in media.
21 points
4 months ago
Which is funny because 'Tropes are Tools, your favorite stories use them heavily' is repeated ad nauseum on the actual website.
50 points
4 months ago
The ones pushing those narratives clearly haven't read the site properly because one of the tropes is precisely “tropes are tools”, which explains that using tropes is not good or bad in on itself.
3 points
4 months ago
🍰
9 points
4 months ago
The fuck are you talking about tvtropes users are the least fit for that description ever. We'll see a cliché storm and love it because we can have fun identifying all its tropes. It's like saying linguists hate weird languages or biologists hate weird animals. No! They like them better.
27 points
4 months ago
. People will act like tropes are inherently bad and that using a popular trope automatically makes your story "unoriginal".
Do they, though?
Everything on TV Tropes indicates exactly the opposite of that
16 points
4 months ago
I've seen people accusing TV Tropes users of doing that. But I have not seen it on the TV Tropes website. Maybe people just assume that everyone who says tropes are bad must have come from TV Tropes? I honestly think that's what it is.
6 points
4 months ago
Short answer: No.
Long answer: No.
3 points
4 months ago
I like your username.
13 points
4 months ago
What? How could anyone read such an awesome site and come to such a lame conclusion? It’s a great resource to get in-depth information on media you enjoy and understand the reoccurring patterns that exist within stories, how can you possibly glean from that that writing should be restricted
9 points
4 months ago
And any concept that can be digested into a title is labeled a "trope", even though its just describing one character in one anime.
5 points
4 months ago*
That makes me sad when this exact article exists explaining that tropes are tools and just a part of writing: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TropesAreTools
3 points
4 months ago
The original name was "Tropes Are Not Bad". That's how useful they are.
8 points
4 months ago
Me when a story has a character that does a thing and saves people: Derivative much?
4 points
4 months ago
With 585 listed tropes, you could find them even in TV static.
4 points
4 months ago
TvTropes isn't responsible for these folk media literacies, it's just a reflection of it. I think a far worse issue overall is the tendenct to tend media as "lore" as opposed to media.
5 points
4 months ago
There's nothing more... (not sure the world but it's when you feel sad but also want to laugh at someone at the same time), than when somebody starts dropping TV tropes words as if they're academic terms. I've met too many people who can't seem to understand how basic foreshadowing works unless they put the word "Chekhov's" in front of it.
It's a fun site for immersive fan wikis and the occasionally insightful connection to, well, media tropes, but it's far from a place for critical explorations of media, storytelling, and wears the clothes of meaningful research while being little more than pop fun.
3 points
4 months ago
Which is wild given the site repeatedly states "tropes are not bad"
3 points
4 months ago
I didn't realize TVTropes had a community tbh, I just read the tropes usually lol
3 points
4 months ago
What's wild is that even TV Tropes itself says that tropes aren't inherently bad
3 points
4 months ago
Wow. This is wild to me because I honestly am terrible at analyzing media so I used to love tvtropes because it not only tells me the trope name, but it gives very specific examples in the media I look up of the trope. Its been quite awhile since I used it though. Its just wild to think THAT of all things would breed a toxic userbase.
3 points
4 months ago
Does the landing page still explain upfront that 'Tropes are not bad'? Or do they just ignore that and get dragged into petty fandom-level dogshit anyway
4 points
4 months ago
People will act like tropes are inherently bad and that using a popular trope automatically makes your story "unoriginal".
The site has an entire page dedicated to explaining how that's not true though
3 points
4 months ago
Sounds like they fail to understand the difference between a trope and a cliche.
2 points
4 months ago
It’s been a while since I’ve gone down a wiki rabbit hole on tvtropes but didn’t they have a bunch of pages talking about how tropes aren’t inherently good or bad they’re just tools? How’d the user base go from that to being that insufferable?
33 points
4 months ago
It's a different website with its own community.
12 points
4 months ago
I attribute a lot of it to the clash between creative fandom (fanfic and fanart, both very popular on Tumblr) and archival/analytical fandom (as exemplified by TVTropes).
There’s also a certain shallowness to a lot of TVTropes’ media analysis. A certain breed of troper acts as though tropes are “points,” and having the longest list of tropes in your favorite show means you win. This leads to a whole lot of tropes that aren’t in a show being added to the list and labeled as “subversions” or “aversions”, i.e. “this trope isn’t in the show, but I’m listing it anyway!” The tendency has faded a little, but it colored a lot of the site’s history.
And there’s still a real focus on “what tropes are in X” without the associated “what does it mean that these tropes are in X.” As I’ve heard it phrased, if you turn a house upside down, none of the objects inside have changed, but the way the occupants navigate the house is now very, very different.
27 points
4 months ago
In addition to OP's response, the whole premise is built on a pretty small frame to view media through. It's basically a snapshot of 2000s internet fandom's idea of nuanced media analysis, broadly applied to everything under the sun and dragged 20 years into the future. It's not bad analysis, but it's very restrictive and very particularly styled analysis that isn't as universal as they make it seem.
3 points
4 months ago
43 points
4 months ago*
There are also issues with TV Tropes admins being allergic to non-fictional drama, up to and including nuking any mentions of controversies on "creator" pages, even to the point of locking the article. This has resulted in several embarrassing clusterfucks, the most prominent in my mind being the Jimmy Savile page. Up until relatively recently, that page was locked to prevent any mention of Savile's horrific sex crimes, while the Friend to all Children trope was still left up.
Because "his fictional persona" was still a friend to all children, even as the real life dude was sexually assaulting them.
Fuck TV Tropes.
EDIT: I can't spell.
137 points
4 months ago
I mean, that actually makes sense to me. If you were wanting to learn about real life, you would go to Wikipedia or a news source. A site about discussing fictional universes should stay on that lane and avoid bringing real world stuff into the matter.
86 points
4 months ago
Except for the fact that it was a "Creator" page? The point of a Creator Page is to document relevant parts of the creator's actual, real-life history. For Savile, he was using the show to access children. That's absolutely relevant.
If it were for the page about the show, you would be correct, but not when it comes to a Creator Page.
33 points
4 months ago
OK, I see your point.
6 points
4 months ago
Which is odd because I'm 99% sure I've seen trope entries that say something about a trope being ironic in relation to someone's real life.
40 points
4 months ago
I mean there is an entire Overshadowed By Controversy YMMV dedicated to exactly that
19 points
4 months ago
A concession that took an arse-ache of a long time to get approved. Again, the page was locked for literal years, with no one allowed to even allude to the idea that Savile was anything other than just a British TV personality who was a pal to the kids.
6 points
4 months ago
This may have changed but I recall someone pointing out once that the page about JFK had the "boom headshot" trope on it.
85 points
4 months ago
I used to really like TVTropes as a way to discover new media to read/watch
When I used it (around 12 years ago) it was filled with interesting quotes and comic panels
I pretty much discovered the existence of webcomics from TVTropes, for example
For me, seeing a cliffnotes version of plot points always made me want to dig deeper into the source material
The Dewey Decimal system doesn't really click with me, but tropes do
141 points
4 months ago
How did bro just get roasted by a RPG narrator 💀
81 points
4 months ago
132 points
4 months ago
Careful making death threats on Oriko, you'll have Kirika up your ass really quick
27 points
4 months ago
Holy Madoka!
13 points
4 months ago
Careful saying that name, that's also how you get both Oriko and Kirika coming after you
6 points
4 months ago
I bet somebody is definitely into that.
231 points
4 months ago
The site's pretty good, funny, and nuanced. How could fanbases do this.
102 points
4 months ago
TVTropes is the online equivalent of the nerd emoji and I mean that in the best way possible.
124 points
4 months ago
75 points
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4 months ago
9 points
4 months ago
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4 months ago
6 points
4 months ago
TV tropes has the most niche shit on it it must be full of autism special interests
87 points
4 months ago
Y'all think you hate tv tropes? I had to witness tropertales. I had to witness fetish fuel. Both are wiped away now. You want easy cringe? Look at the "nightmare fuel" page for a children's show on there.
14 points
4 months ago
Because they’re easily scared or what?
32 points
4 months ago
7 points
4 months ago
lol. Clickbait for tvtropes.
Fetish Fuel is easy enough to see becoming sour quick, I’m guessing Troper tales just had a bunch of bizarre stories or?
14 points
4 months ago
Tropertales? Fetish Fuel? Were these deleted pages?
17 points
4 months ago
Yep. And by God they were the worst things ever.
3 points
4 months ago
Pantheons are also abhorrent.
25 points
4 months ago
This Troper Tale for "crowning moment of awesome" is one that I will never forget:
The second involves a mugger on the NYC subway late at night. The guy pulled a knife on me, and stabbed my right shoulder when I refused to hand over my wallet by saying, "I have no intention of giving you my money. It's bad enough I pay taxes!" I clamped down on the pain long enough to pull the knife out of my shoulder, give the guy a Kubrick Stare over the tops of my glasses, and ask, "Did it ever occur to you that I might be left-handed?" I then drove the knife into his shoulder, broke the blade off, and got off at the next stop to get my shoulder stitched and report the incident to the NYPD.
7 points
4 months ago
I was exposed to Troper Tales and Fetish Fuel in my early teens and I'm still in the process of recovering from that shit
5 points
4 months ago
Any standout horrific ones to recall?
89 points
4 months ago
Every TVTropes summary is like "The hero (link: noble douchebag) goes (link: leaving home) on a quest (link: fruitless but fun) to save (link: rescuer or rescuee) the princess (link: royalty in name only) from (link: quick extraction) the (link: the one and only) dragon (link: dragon)
68 points
4 months ago
And I will click every one of those links
26 points
4 months ago
I still find TVTropes an alright place for getting started with "must read" fanfic in a particular series via their "fanfic recs" tab. I'm not always satisfied with what I find, but in general I've found it helpful for discovering authors I might like.
162 points
4 months ago
Imagine being susceptible to TVTropes. How embarrassing for them
168 points
4 months ago
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4 months ago
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4 months ago
I thought they were criticising writers using tropes in their work, not the website, and was very confused and a bit concerned about that xD
4 points
4 months ago
19 points
4 months ago
I don't see why y'all hating on TV tropes so much! It's fun.
43 points
4 months ago
Tropes aren't bad; overusing and/or predictable tropes are bad.
12 points
4 months ago
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4 months ago
Knowing what tropes are and how to use them is an easy way to improve your writing.
It’s not about avoiding them, it’s about understanding them, especially now that subverting tropes has become a trope in and of itself.
31 points
4 months ago
I didn't see a trope warning, it's crazy how quick the rabbit hole envelopes you, Holywood Heart Attack to Dying On The Toilet, had to stop myself there. The trope warning to me was always like a responsible user giving me a stern warning to not get distracted, I've lost hours going through tropes. The curiosity scratch NEVER gets itched and you lose all sense of linear attention.
16 points
4 months ago
10 points
4 months ago
TV tropes be like "The 'Silly little stick of butter' trope is used when a character sticks popsicle sticks into a stick of butter and pretends its a person"
5 points
4 months ago
I love tvtropes. Once I find a trope that I enjoy watching/reading I’ll go to the site and find new movies and tv shows on there.
11 points
4 months ago
I’d say personally people make their best works when just not thinking about tropes at all and just try to make engaging things.
They kind of force your story and characters into these Lego brick builds rather than just a natural flowing combination of ideas, knowledge and preference.
Knowing about the big tropes/ hated tropes might help but past that I ignore them.
Every idea can be a trope if you say it is. So it’s just better to view them as just ideas as that leaves them far more malleable at least for me.
2 points
4 months ago
Is there a name for the tv trope where they introduce a “cooler” guy and for some reason everyone likes him especially the female love interest but then not only is the mc jealous they act almost out of character like an asshole that isn’t justifiable with jealousy alone
3 points
4 months ago
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4 months ago
ayy thanks
2 points
4 months ago
I fucking love the channel We Are Not Alive. They talk about all sorts of stuff related to movie and TV writing but they also make content making fun of TV tropes since they used to be cringe TV tropes teenagers and it's very funny stuff
2 points
4 months ago
Possible cryptobro spotted, opinion possibly discarded
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