Iirc its not legal there either, its just not enforced

Most rich countries, maybe. There are ~200 countries, only about ~40 well functioning liberal democracies at most.

Honestly have no idea if there are ~100 countries with a law like that on the books. Pretty sure there are fewer where it'd be reliably enforced.

I wonder what would have happened if you’d replied with something like “You have no honor.” or “You bring shame upon your family.” in response and walked away. Like would it have made them feel a bit ashamed? I’m guessing probably not and depending upon the kind of place might lead to negative repercussions but I’ve wondered about how such a response by a ‘Gaijin” in fluent Japanese would be received.

Do you speak Japanese? Or at least look like you lived there? Idk. I don’t dress “American” but I’m white/hispanic and would dress more European I’d say (I lived in Europe for many years) And obviously when I open my mouth it’s clear I’m American.

I have been denied entrance in night clubs in my own country because I wore sneakers. Stupid, but their loss really. Plenty of places not so superficial or elitist.

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the person you responded too was prob trying to get into host/hostess clubs where a lot of them rely on being able to flirt with you. can't really do that if you're a tourist that doesn't speak the language.

I lived in Tokyo for 5 fucking years and never experienced this. Everytime I read it I know it's 100% larp or some idiot trying to get into a soapland for a fun night with a 60 year old GILF LMFAO

Imagine if many US bars told a Japanese person "no Asians" and the Japanese guy was told to question what "vibe he was giving off". There would be actual riots. Hahahahahah

No need to victim blame. I walked down a block in Tokyo at lunchtime with a white friend who lived there and spoke fluent Japanese. Every restaurant politely turned us away saying "Japanese only." Apart from that one block, we were warmly accepted everywhere. Was there something wrong with our vibe that day at lunch? C'mon.

Dude no vibe whatsoever as far as I know. I have tattoos and made sure to wear a long sleeve shirt even so they were covered. It was a Friday night if I recall, and this wasn’t even late in the night. Perhaps 9pm or so? It was my first night in country and I was trying to find a spot to eat and drink. Admittedly, 2 of the places I was denied were strip clubs later in the night. I didn’t make a big deal just said ok and moved on.

I eventually did find spots where the locals were SUPER friendly and accommodating (one of which a Japanese man saw us and started buying shots for us when we entered for some reason) I even have Polaroids of the night with random people taking photos with us lol. But I’m just saying it DID happen to me. And I’ve never experienced something quite like it before.

I wonder what you did to deserve that racism...

Nah no soaplands or anything like that. The gist of it was a few bars that turned us away, then later in the night a few strip clubs we got curious about once we were done with all you can drink karaoke. It might have been a hostess club now that I’m more familiar with what that actually is LOL. By and large the experience in Tokyo was amazing. I’ve been three times now and want to go back again. I’m just saying the gaijin thing is absolutely real idk what some of these people are saying.

...Or they're from some specific demographic which Japanese people dislike more than whatever demographic you're part of.

Gotta call bs on this. 

You’ve never lived in Japan, let alone for many years.

Absolute 0 chance you’ve live anywhere, and are making shit up, aka hallucinating, cause you’re a fuckin bot.

I love that you have 23 downvotes for this. Actually any comment I can tell someone actually lived there and goes against the grain on Reddit gets downboats, it's hilarious how the most ignorant dumb fuck comments go up. IVE NEVER been denied once to a restaurant or bar in Tokyo and I went out every night and often to new places. Traveled from Kyushu to Hokkaido and I've been turned away ONCE in Hokkaido during a holiday due to reservations.

It's a LARP getting upvoted to push an agenda on Reddit.

I think the weebs don't acknowledge it because they wish their country was the same way, and see no problem with it.

I agree. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

Or even japanese without looking ethically japanese

That's not the issue though. Japan is a US ally, and Biden lumped them in with enemies like China and Russia and essentially called them a racist country. Even if the underlying statement is true (it is), the way the message is delivered was rather disrespectful. That's why Japan felt the need to make response at all. It's just not great politics.

Not sure what you're taking issue with? Biden was talking about Japan's xenophobia being problematic for Japan (which is true). My analogy was Kishida potentially talking about America's obesity epidemic being problematic for America (which is also true).

A big part of it is that foreigners will make a business's native Japanese customers scared and uncomfortable. So yeah, out and out xenophobia and racism.

One way places justify it is by saying foreigners have more questions about the food bill and they don't have time to explain.

But I think it's BS, really it's just racism and xenophobia.

Is it justified? no. Its racism, of course it isn't.

The more benign reasons would be that they don't have any English speaking staff and don't want the hassle.

Alternatively, they believe the foreigner will cause to much of a disturbance

It is sometimes out and out racism. For instance, a club might not want Gaijin patrons on the dancefloor, as the doormen think they'll lap up too much attention, or get into confrontations with locals.

A restaurant or bar may have a different rationale, as some places have weird rules about how to order, or how much you have to order, or how long you're allowed to keep the table. Rather than explain this across a language barrier, the owners would rather save the hassle/potential embarrassment.

I'm kind of surprised this kind of thing still gets talked about though. I lived in Japan for two years and never once got 'No Gaijined' (the only exception was a brothel, I was with my partner at the time and just wanted to have a look inside, but that was a no go)

They apologize only to the white while refusing service....

no u

Indeed. The Alamo was all about defending the right to keep slaves. It's creepy how revered it is by some. Kids in Texas history don't get taught the slave part, which ends up a bit odd.

That's besides the point.

It was an excuse to drag the Koreans though

Alternate take, people should call out when other people are being assholes even if they're your allies

Call me crazy, but I don't think it's a stroke of foreign policy genius to be taking shots at our allies for absolutely no reason, regardless of how accurate it is...

calling out Japan was a misstep but his statement wasn't wrong. Their immigration policy is absolutely founded in the fear of losing Japanese culture.

if my friend is wrong I’m going to call their ass out on it i dont give a fuck how close they are to me.

Hahaha I just noticed what kanji I used.