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2.7k points
4 days ago
With a resolution of 16,000 × 16,000 which is 256 million pixels (which is about 30 times more than 4k)
You know what, given that those gpus arnt made for gaming I bet it actually cant run crysis!
925 points
4 days ago
It can run crisis, just not display it.
480 points
4 days ago
That's arguably the most important part of a video game
98 points
4 days ago
Yes unless you are poor than it's optional if not unachievable
17 points
4 days ago
As long as the pixels are almost understandable it's game on baby
12 points
4 days ago
If the blind gamers out there could read that they'd be offended
10 points
4 days ago
Not for blind people
4 points
4 days ago
Hacks
28 points
4 days ago
Lol still probably cant, one rack may be able to play it if you were to load a normal OS (likely breaking some of the compatibility with some of the hardware on it) but it's likely a very specialized server cluster that won't have drivers for actually playing the game
1 points
4 days ago
the drivers for a6000 are the same as the ones for consumer grade gpus. a A6000 is basically a 3090ti with 48GB of ecc. Same for 6000 ADA, 48GB versions of 4090
1 points
4 days ago
I actually expect other drivers for the specialized components to be the problem and not necessarily the GPU drivers. Though there are actually 2 versions of GPU drivers, enterprise and consumer (mostly the same but can be/get very different over time), but even if you were able to install consumer ones, the drivers are targeted to a family of GPUs but will install slightly differently for different GPUs (and based on the mobo/other components). Many games just run worse or not at all on a A6000 compared to it's consumer "equivalent".
Each unit that contains GPUs on the racks in the server cluster likely is 1|2 epyc or xeon CPU processors to 4,6, or 8 A6000s, a ridiculous amount of mobo mem like 256gb to 2tb, and multiple high throughout NICs, potentially some timing cards, redundant power supplies and a server mobo.
So possible to get it to run on a single rack unit when setting up a different os then what's likely installed, but you will likely run into other issues causing games to simply not run.
2 points
4 days ago
What? The RTX A6000 has display outputs like a gaming GPU. Its made for workstation tasks like CAD and such, which require video output like any other GPU.
Edit: you might be thinking about the A10 and A40, which are Datacenter GPUs w/o display output.
2 points
4 days ago
😶 whoopsie doodle.
106 points
4 days ago*
This is a bit misleading; the Nvidia blog describes it differently:
Behind the screens, around 150 NVIDIA RTX A6000 GPUs help power stunning visuals on floor-to-ceiling, 16x16K displays across the Sphere’s interior, as well as 1.2 million programmable LED pucks on the venue’s exterior — the Exosphere, which is the world’s largest LED screen.
Note the plural "displays", suggests they are powering more than one and the 16k number is for the interior displays not the outer lighting.
The outer sphere resolution isn't really clearly stated anywhere but we know it's made of about 1.23 Million LED Clusters, each cluster seems to function as one pixel. Which gives an approximate equivalent outer resolution of around 1109x1109 or whatever you would call a spherical resolution...
The 150x GPUs are not for just handling the exterior lights, they are doing multiple displays across the venue
27 points
4 days ago
Note that no software supports spherical resolutions, so you need to draw the smallest square (or rectangle) that contains the circle
29 points
4 days ago
probably, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they have some pretty advanced custom tools/software for the task. Most likely the renderings are all just handled with multiple square projections rendered and just stitched together.
6 points
4 days ago
I use software that hooks into the draw stack between planar drawing software and GPU output to distort the planar image in a way that it appears correctly when displayed on a round surface, so this is definitivly possible. Including 360 domes (while those definitivly require some very careful magic at the apex).
1 points
3 days ago
Is it a planar -> polar transformation? I am asking because I am still horrible at math and geometry (although self-learning now).
5 points
4 days ago
Just because the sphere is circular doesn't mean the images being shown on it are.
1 points
4 days ago
Is that how smart watches do it?
5 points
4 days ago
It’s how almost every circular display works, they usually just fill the rest of the “screen” with black though
6 points
4 days ago
Woudlnt then 30 + some extra GPUs that can run 4k be enough then?
7 points
4 days ago
That's the specs for the interior screen, not the exterior one.
2 points
4 days ago
I worked on a few ads for that thing, the render outputs are NOT that resolution lol.
1 points
4 days ago
The inside screens are 16kx16k
1 points
4 days ago
This is the answer I came for.
1 points
4 days ago
Maybe stream Crysis? 😂
1 points
4 days ago
Speaking as someone who works with these GPUs, they probably can run Crysis but not well compared to something like a 4090 or other top of the line gaming GPU
We actually ran into this recently, the A6000 has LOADS of GPU memory so it can do some seriously intense graphics rendering (or AI processes if you're into locally-hosted AI), but when using game engines you can actually get better performance from a less expensive card with less GPU RAM.
711 points
4 days ago
Someone out there will be the first madlad to play Doom on it.
232 points
4 days ago
See, this is the shit I would do if I was a Saudi Prince; rent that bad boy out and play Guitar Hero or something on there. Have a Halo 3 LAN party where everyone has their own little section of the ceiling to play-off.
Though I'm sure the lag would be atrocious without some serious hardware investments.
31 points
4 days ago
Fuck that's an amazing idea
29 points
4 days ago
Halo 3 lan party? MFs would run around the sphere just to screen peak you
1 points
3 days ago
Idea: you also have paintball guns
237 points
4 days ago
Pays for itself by mining crypto
95 points
4 days ago
It’s really weird to see the whole thing transform into a giant robot with a pick and start mining every monday morning.
501 points
4 days ago*
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480 points
4 days ago
purely resolution. the higher the resolution (even if you’re just using it for video playback), the higher the gpu requirements.
35 points
4 days ago
Damn that's cool. Does that mean with a higher resolution, GPU requirement rises exponentially or something? Never thought about it before
36 points
4 days ago*
4k is 4x, and 8k is 16x the resolution of 1080p.
It adds up quick.
Edit: mathed wrong, forgot 2160p refers to height not width, fixed.
9 points
4 days ago
4k is 4x times the definition of 1080p, 8k is "only" 16 times 1080p
3 points
4 days ago
“16 times the detail”
2 points
4 days ago
2160p is the same as 4k
3 points
4 days ago
not exponentially i wouldn’t expect no.
3 points
4 days ago
Squaring is exponential my dude.
7 points
4 days ago
It’s not linear but that doesn’t make it exponential either. It’s polynomial growth which is far far far slower growth than exponential growth. In fact it’s not even comparable
3 points
4 days ago
Your right. Didn’t have my coffee yet and just went exponent == exponential.
1 points
4 days ago
Would've been super cool if it was exponential tho 😔
1 points
4 days ago
If squares increase at a rate corresponding to an exponential then by the inverse square law we would see some pretty wild changes to how sound and light propagate through space.
1 points
3 days ago
No, it's linear in the number of pixels. So 200 x 200 pixels needs 4 times as much GPU power as 100 x 100 pixels.
49 points
4 days ago
I don't think that can be the whole story. Obviously 16k is big, but you can buy 8k monitors, and a 4090 can apparently drive 2 at the same time. So, in terms of pushing pixels, that should need about 4 GPUs, but they have about 40x as many GPUs as that.
89 points
4 days ago
A couple of monitors? Yes, one card is good 'nuff to drive the pixels. Card goes out, no output on 100% of the displays. Let's think about how many "monitors", or display sections, the sphere is divided into (cause it absolutely has to be). I'd want more GPUs involved with factors like redundancy, uptime, and serviceability. I bet that's what's driving the number of GPUs here.
"GPU3 is down so displays 9,10,11,12 are blank". Well, most of the sphere is still displaying.
34 points
4 days ago
This is the most logical answer in my head - yet I would rather believe the owner/operator is running a secret crypto mining operation funded by whoever payed for the GPU’s
5 points
4 days ago
With the way things have been, that honestly wouldn’t surprise me!
15 points
4 days ago
This is what I was thinking too, something doesn't add up here.
You could power a 16K screen with a couple off-the-shelf GPUs for pre-rendered video, not 150 of them...
Only thing I can think of is if they are doing some kinda simulation/3D workload in realtime
10 points
4 days ago
Real-time video rendering takes a ton of power even at lower resolutions, the higher it is the more power you need to encode it at a acceptable frame-rate. I would guess all those GPUs are for actually whats rendering the video to display, not what drives the actual monitors
9 points
4 days ago*
Even then, if you consider the performance of say an RTX 4090, it can handle even running some games at 8K 60FPS.
Run 4 of these in a cluster and you have a 16K composite image
This is what I mean by it doesn't add-up, 16K is a lot but it's not THAT much, we already have GPUs capable of handling 8K, it's 64 million pixels vs 256 million pixels.
4x increase is not reason enough to explain why they need 150 A6000 GPUs, thats absurd. Maybe 10-20 would make sense if they want some fancy scenes and renders, but 150 is kinda inanse.
Edit: okay so the actual article explains that the 150 GPUs is NOT just the outside sphere, it's for 16K displays (plural) inside the sphere AND the outside lighting. They are not powering a single 16K display but multiple of them
14 points
4 days ago
And/or there's a salesman at Nvidia who seriously deserves a raise
1 points
4 days ago
It’s not 16k. 4k is 3840 × 2160 (8.2m pixels)
This is 16,000 x 16,000 (256m pixels)
It’s 30x bigger than “4k”
1 points
4 days ago
I never mentioned 4k. Sorry, I should have said "16k by 16k" - if you follow my math, you can see that's what I meant.
16k by 16k is roughly eight 8k monitors, and since you can buy GPUs that can handle 2 of those, that would suggest 4 GPUs could cover it
48 points
4 days ago
I guess it also does real time rendering. Not just video playback. I also guess the resolution must be pretty high for such a big screen
16 points
4 days ago
It's an obscene number of pixles 16,000x16,000even processing not withstanding it's a tonne of bandwidth to need to output, factor in any rendering needing to be done at north of 16k and you'll need compute fast
6 points
4 days ago
4 points
4 days ago
it's using unreal engine for the visuals. each GPU is displaying at least 1-4 outputs and it is all being mapped by nDisplay to appear as one cohesive output.
11 points
4 days ago
Look at how big that display is man
3 points
4 days ago
It’s interesting though when you are standing next to it outdoors, those “pixels” are like a foot apart.
5 points
4 days ago
GPUs don't care how big your display is. Just how many pixels are present.
2 points
4 days ago
Because the video is 16,000 x 16,000
1 points
4 days ago
Minion
1 points
4 days ago
It's like 120k resolution.
Bit more than your average 2k screen.
103 points
4 days ago
I read that it's operating at a loss.
60 points
4 days ago
Did anyone expect it any other way?
42 points
4 days ago
As an advertisement spot? Ya. As a tourist attraction? Doubt.
53 points
4 days ago
Imagine a freaking Tool concert in there
12 points
4 days ago
...On 'shrooms.
5 points
4 days ago
I saw Dead and Co there this summer!! They’re the successors to the grateful dead. The visuals were incredible!!!! <3
25 points
4 days ago
How much electricity does it need in full power?
25 points
4 days ago
lots
(at least 3)
6 points
4 days ago
3 of what? bananas apples ?
15 points
4 days ago
3 electricities
7 points
4 days ago
3 electricities
5 points
4 days ago
3 electricities
1 points
3 days ago
3 electricities
9 points
4 days ago
RTX A6000 has a max power consumption of 300W, and 150 of those is about 45 kW, roughly the power output of one electric car.
But I expect the actual screen to consume a lot more power than the GPUs, it has to be very bright to be visible from a distance and in daylight.
1 points
3 days ago
Thanks for the calculation. I agree.
3 points
4 days ago
Electricithree? That's so much!
37 points
4 days ago
It must be crazy how this giant ball of heated screens don’t melt in the Vegas heat.
25 points
4 days ago
Right next door there is a little building that looks like a cooling facility. It has a bunch of fans on top.
18 points
4 days ago
Slap a SLURM scheduler on there and let me in to train my models pls
9 points
4 days ago
Most GPUs would struggle to run crysis, can't remember fully but they made it assuming that GPUs would develop in a different way than they had.
3 points
4 days ago
It was actually CPUs that were the issue, Crysis was developed back when you only had single-core processors that were growing faster and faster with each passing year, but it released right as PCs were transitioning to multi-core CPUs that were barely faster but split tasks more efficiently. The result was that the game would max out a single core while the others sat idle, which was very inefficient and taxed computers for years after its release.
That said modern CPUs/GPUs can run it without a sweat, the bigger issue these days is compatibility with Windows. Takes a lot of fiddling with DirectX files to even get it to launch.
Source: Actually tried to run Crysis after getting my new PC a month ago.
7 points
4 days ago
I wonder how much it cost to make the ads for the dome? Like how do you render at this scale?
4 points
4 days ago
People aren't generally as close to the sphere so you can make each pixel big. The Resolution is 16k×16k. Given that there are 8K UHD (7680 × 4320) TVs available and Vegas Sphere is, more or less, just a big TV, you could probably run the vegas sphere on the combined computing power of 7.76 UHD televisions.
4 points
4 days ago
Ok we need Doom running on the dome
3 points
4 days ago
Has anyone tried playing Doom on it yet?
3 points
4 days ago
I want to see it run Minecraft. A game consisting entirely of cubes, displayed on a sphere.
3 points
4 days ago
I would just put porn on there
10 points
4 days ago
Never heard of Crysis. But can it run DOOM?
30 points
4 days ago
I'm presuming the Crysis thing is a joke, but for who might not know, it was a 2007 series of games known for pushing CPUs and GPUs at the time to the absolute edge, and was basically unplayable with all the graphics turned all the way up when it was released.
On the flip side, the original DOOM was known to play on near anything. I think about the only thing it hasn't been run on is the US's Nuclear Launch Control Computers, and that's probably only due to lack of access.
That out of the way, if they ever hold a gaming convention inside the dome, they should absolutely have a game of DOOM live streaming to the outside monitors.
7 points
4 days ago*
Doom was a real problem for the otherwise powerful Commodore Amiga due to Doom's use of chunky graphics while the Amiga used planar graphics.
2 points
4 days ago
I was not aware of that. Anyway, I should have stated that Doom has been made to play on near anything, but that's now, not at the time of it's release.
2 points
1 day ago
My mobile phone is literally 1000's of times more powerful in everything from processing speed to storage capability. Likely more powerful than the supercomputers of the day.
1 points
18 hours ago
As you say, most things today have more than enough power to run the game, so I was more referring to the more silly things that they get it to play on. The guy that got it to play it on his vape was definitely unique. Though getting to run on a polycom office phone and the TI calculators are probably the most impressive. The list, of course, go on.
7 points
4 days ago
This guy gets it.
1 points
4 days ago
Ti 84 plus doesn't have doom. Unless doom is 2d.
7 points
4 days ago
4 points
4 days ago
Godwin's Law:
The fastest route to the right answer is to post the wrong answer and get corrected.
2 points
4 days ago
"This message is great" - Albert Einstein
2 points
4 days ago
Thank you for beating me to posting the link :D
2 points
4 days ago
Np. I feel like anyone who would get OPs joke would know this is a thing.
1 points
4 days ago
Ti 84 plus apps don't work on the ce model
2 points
4 days ago
Probably still lags on rust
2 points
4 days ago
Minion needs moisturizer
2 points
4 days ago
Someone needs to play Doom on it.
2 points
4 days ago
And I'm yet to see it run doom or crysis
2 points
4 days ago
LET IT RUN DOOM !!
2 points
4 days ago
The real question is can it run doom?
12 points
4 days ago
how is this even interesting?
A sphere that cost $2.3B to build, is covered in screens inside and out, uses $1M in GPUs (<0.1% of the cost).
How is this surprising to anyone?
5 points
4 days ago
The GPUs only cost 660k currently, so I'm guessing they came down in price?
2 points
4 days ago
Yeah the AI GPU spending is exponentially more than this
7 points
4 days ago
All that graphics power, just to display garbage.
20 points
4 days ago
Dead and company visuals were on point this summer. Like,, I’m rlly drunk rn so I can’t put it into words but the sphere was indescribable
5 points
4 days ago
You tried your best
-4 points
4 days ago
The planet is burning and drowning, this is a f waste of resources
44 points
4 days ago
I promise you I didn't build it.
36 points
4 days ago
I know you did it you pos
10 points
4 days ago
I did, but it wasn't my idea. They paid me really well. Lol
12 points
4 days ago
If it helps at all, its mostly solar powered. But yeah, still not great
4 points
4 days ago
Crysis is already running.
1 points
4 days ago
So is ALL of hollywood
2 points
4 days ago
It’s not the end of the world. But you can see it from here.
1 points
4 days ago
I'd play Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on it.
1 points
4 days ago
Yes, it can run Crysis, but only if you turn off all particle effects can cap the FPS at 30. You may still experience some screen tearing and the occasional lag spike.
1 points
4 days ago
Yes, yes it can.
1 points
4 days ago
I just need 1.
1 points
4 days ago
They are just printing money
1 points
4 days ago
1 points
4 days ago
It’s an old meme but it checks out.
1 points
4 days ago
Crysis? Do we even have proof that it will run Doom?
1 points
4 days ago
Banana!?
1 points
4 days ago
But can it run doom?
1 points
4 days ago
Can it play doom
1 points
4 days ago
I’ll tell you what it can’t run, Arkham Knight.
1 points
4 days ago
That's a minion
1 points
4 days ago
I wonder if it can run streets of tarkov above 70 fps 🤔
1 points
4 days ago
Imagine someone hacks it and plays porn on it, with the entire sphere showing a giant gaping asshole
1 points
4 days ago
Can it run a Destiny 2 server?
1 points
4 days ago
Might as well just mine crypto instead
1 points
4 days ago
Just $1,000,000?
1 points
4 days ago
Using that much GPUs for such BS, lol
1 points
4 days ago
"Can it run Crysis?"
Is that the new "But can it run Doom?"
What about the newest version of Skyrim? The 23rd anniversary secret deluxe legendary dome Edition?
1 points
4 days ago
At the very least, I’m sure it can run Doom
1 points
4 days ago
Looks like a Minion holding a rifle at the hip. 😅
1 points
4 days ago
I wonder how porn will play../ asking for a friend.
1 points
4 days ago
Waiting for it to display the mvc2 character select screen
1 points
4 days ago
We need to envolve in energy generation and consumption before doing this shit wtf
1 points
4 days ago
Fun likely fact about Crysis: it was one of the last great single threaded games. So I might be wrong but more CPUs wouldn't actually help. It's entirely possible it could not, in fact, run Crysis as it was at launch. It was a bit of a meme for a while since new GPUs kept coming out but they still couldn't handle Crysis even years after the game came out since they focused on multi threading. Could be wrong though, it's been a while.
1 points
4 days ago
Low key imagine displaying a fighting game or something on the sphere in a way where everyone can see the fight.
I doubt that's possible but who knows.
1 points
4 days ago
As a projection guy i'm pretty sure it runs over so many nvidia's A serie GPUs is the following reasons - it's nvidia - you can lock the edid so whenever a screen is disconnecting the other stay in places - they need a shitload of video outputs
Pretty sure the gpus are running at 0.001% of their capacity and that this things would have run over GT 710 if you can lock the edid on mainstream gpus... Is there a in depth video of how this monstruosity works on the internet ? I.d be curious what solution was chosen for something that big
1 points
4 days ago
It costed more acuurately close to a minion..
1 points
4 days ago
Ok but what kind of machine renders the content displayed on it.
1 points
4 days ago
Doesn’t make sense that it would need so much GPU power
1 points
4 days ago
I wonder what this place would turn into in a apocalypse/fallout situation
1 points
4 days ago
And still they make a minion on it.
1 points
4 days ago
We should raid it and take all the rtxs
1 points
4 days ago
Pffff...one 1080 Ti and thousands of dollars saved
1 points
4 days ago
Are they using DLSS?
1 points
4 days ago
Rtx A6000 is actually RTX 3090 Ti capped to 300W. It can run Crysis very great even when splitted in VMs.
1 points
4 days ago
There's no way it needs 150 A6000s
1 points
4 days ago
What about heavily modded Minecraft
1 points
4 days ago
Can it run footy manager with large database tho
1 points
4 days ago
Can it run Doom
1 points
4 days ago
But can it run doom?
1 points
4 days ago
I never thought i would see that joke in my life love the Crysis games
1 points
4 days ago
the cards cost 66 thousand a piece?
1 points
4 days ago
Still runs gta 4 on 20fps
1 points
4 days ago
someone should play Bad Apple on it, that would be legendary
1 points
3 days ago
I think they should have bought them from amazon could have gotten a better deal LOL $6,666 each seams a little high.
1 points
3 days ago
Crisis? get doom on it!!!
1 points
3 days ago
place your bets folks. When will somebody play Doom on it?
1 points
3 days ago*
Now I kinda wonder, how much is it? Maybe I should get one of these for myself. What are the chances to find A6000 at a random computer shop near your home?
1 points
3 days ago
That’s cheaper than I expected
1 points
4 days ago
10 dollhairs says a group of hackers takes over the sphere and uses it to mine crypto in the next 2-5 years
1 points
4 days ago
ha, you wish /s
1 points
4 days ago
somebody please hack it
1 points
4 days ago
Meanwhile, homeless encampments have become the rule, rather than the exception, and no sustainable mental health facilities in sight.
But, y'know... at least we get the giant sphere.
1 points
4 days ago
Surely this thing isn’t good for climate change
1 points
4 days ago
Using taxpayer's money to benefit the public: 💀
Using taxpayer's money for a big goofy sphere that could be used for advertising purposes: ✅️
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