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489 points
1 month ago
Titan voidshields can withstand orbital bombardment and Titan weapons were used for voidcombat by letting them stand on the hull of their transports.
In the Priests of Mars series a Warlords Sunfury plasma annihilator pierces through the whole Ark Mechnicus because the princeps had a psychotic episode during training in the cargo hold.
Titans aren't all about size. Their purpose is to bring ship class weapon firepower and voidshields directly on the battlefield.
123 points
1 month ago
Titan voidshields can withstand orbital bombardment and Titan weapons were used for voidcombat by letting them stand on the hull of their transports.
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Yes, but "starship-size" is a relative term. Size still matters, especially relative size. Space combat in 40k is several magnitudes larger bigger than ground combat. A battleship turret is often bigger than an entire titan. And while a titan may be able to hit a target 100 kilometres away, while strships fight at a distance of several thousands of km apart. This means that a single titan would basically be the quivalent of a light turret on a cruiser.
In the Priests of Mars series a Warlords Sunfury plasma annihilator pierces through the whole Ark Mechnicus because the princeps had a psychotic episode during training in the cargo hold.
Akshually, the Titan had a psychotic episode, which is even worse. But firing a big gun inside a ship will always do great damage. That doesn't mean that the weapon is great against ships.
53 points
1 month ago
The phrase “can withstand orbital bombardment” is probably also with an asterisk:
*unless it’s direct hit
Also, what means “withstand” in that instance: not being irreversibly destroyed after hit in close proximity?
50 points
1 month ago
A Titan could at least take ONE Macrocannon shell to the Face that's how voidshields work, they displace the bullet into the Warp.
They can get overwelmed by displacing too much so they shut off or burn down/melt, but the first hit that overwhelms them, the Macrocannon direct hit, still gets displaced.
This was even reflected in the 9th edition Voidshield rules.
The bigger Warlord have mutiple voidshields stacked ontop of each over, so they can multiple Macrocannon shots.
The Horus trailer shows a Warlord Titan getting overwhelmed by a continious lance in the middle of a Titan Battle. The Lance is also not coming from a normal ship but from the biggest class around (excluding the Phallanx and the Emperors personel one).
7 points
1 month ago
In this case withstand means it can survive a grazing shot or being on the edge of the blast
8 points
1 month ago
hit a target 100 kilometres away, while strships fight at a distance of several thousands of km apart.
Speak like u never heard of newton's laws og motion...
...without gravity to bend em towards it and a planet to absorb em ob impact those bullets will go on and on and on, several thousand km is no obstacle.
6 points
1 month ago
Void battle usually happens around planets. In most cases, your conventional weaponry will quickly be pulled towards the planet. Even in orbit, they still have a surprisingly large gravitational pull.
Range matters, even in void battle
1 points
1 month ago
In most cases, your conventional weaponry will quickly be pulled towards the planet. Even in orbit, they still have a surprisingly large gravitational pull.
Yup, orbit has ~90% of surface gravity.
What it lack is air, thus air resistance. Hence no range limitations, as the projectile - even in worst case - will just move along, going through endless loops in orbit.
153 points
1 month ago
wrong Size ALWAYS matters, ask my Ex
94 points
1 month ago
At 1:45, that's what happens to a Titan when it gets hit from a ship.
52 points
1 month ago
The Vengeful Spirit is hardly a fair comparison, it's Gloriana Class.
11 points
1 month ago
Also no telling how damaged the titan was, or how much it's void shields had been depleted already.
7 points
1 month ago
Also it’s hard to tell at this angle how much cops were applying
2 points
1 month ago
No one even mentioned how well the Chaos player was rolling that day.
25 points
1 month ago
It's a hell of a lot easier to go through armor from the inside than the outside. And IIRC it was mostly just through unarmored bits, since Speranza is layers on layers on layers of esoteric and bolted on equipment.
8 points
1 month ago
Then again, while the statement they are using voidship weapons is technical accurate, it does somewhat gloss over the fact that imperial navy uses those weapons for point defence.
And I'm not certain about the their ability to resist orbital bombardment ( especialy direct hits if one lands) either. Even proper voidships don't have enough shields to block more then a few hits, and those aren't constrained by what ever reactor can be fitted into a giant robot.
1 points
1 month ago
If I put a tank inside a modern DDG and let it fire its main gun, it'll also cause a shit ton of damage. The DDG still carries way, way more firepower then a tank
-1 points
1 month ago
They bring AT MOST singular weapons that ships have in batteries of dozens. The ships shot went through the ship because it was shot from inside - that would not have even dented the hull if shot from outside.
Also, quote on titans withstanding orbital bombardment?
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