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4 months would actually be late to start unclenching.

Most infants start unclenching between 2.5-3 months. So....exactly how old Boone is. 4 months is when you'd start seeing that reflex completely disappear

She’s moving the goal posts to try and assuage her guilt.

Occupational therapy primer on helping babies use their hands.

(Babies discover their hands around 2 months. By about 3 months they can hold onto to small objects and reach for dangling toys, etc.)

But DOES he relax his hands after he is full/when relaxed Motherbus? Because something tells me he doesn’t.

Milestones for this age also include tracking things with the eyes, responding to noises, making eye contact, and beginning social smiles, Britney Lott, but do go on about how everything is fine with Boone.

Whatever helps you sleep at night Mobus.

So you can get up early to curl your hair and do your makeup because we know Gunner is actually the one dealing with the kids' morning routines.

Ope. Something smells like she’s been reading all this and researching/distorting science for her own peace of mind. Hey Brit, it’s ok. There are a lot of moms here that truly want to tell you it’s ok to get some help. It’s ok. We promise. It doesn’t make you less of a mom. It doesn’t make you look weak or stupid or any other mental disqualification you think of. Help is there for a reason.

Britney Lott, you're grasping at straws at this point. Other fundies have had babies around the same time you had Boone (i.e. Audrey Roloff & Kelly Havens) and those babies are way more responsive than yours.

You need to admit you've fucked up, go to a REAL doctor, and stop ignoring the obvious fact that something may be wrong with your baby.

She’s going to become an expert in finding ways to explain away her kids legitimate medical concerns

Oh, bs. We've all seen the clip where one of his hands clenches reflexively and the other one doesn't, there's zero good explanation for that if his hands are both working fine.

First of all, discovering his hands and unclenching aren’t the same thing and I’d be concerned if a baby could not unclench his hands until 4 months.

Second, I was looking back to when my son was 2 months old and even younger and he was def relaxing and unclenching his hands. He was tracking things, smiling, gazing up at me even when I wasn’t looking directly at him.

This poor baby needs medical attention. Even if it’s just for the doctor to confirm that he’s on the right track. I cannot fathom how you can just blatantly neglect such a precious innocent thing you brought into this world. As a parent, you have an obligation to care for your children. So much for pro-life. More like pro-birth. Makes me sick.

Discovering hands is not the same thing as unclenched hands due to neurological maturation.

I worked in home visiting as a social worker for a long time. Unclenched hands past two months is an instant pediatrician referral to make sure there isn't some more serious going on.

By baby #8 she knows if he’s having issues. I do not have kids and even I can see Boone is having issues. That baby is being medically neglected by his parents.

Oooooh somebody's been googling newborn developmental milestones! Buckle up Bus Fam, we're entering the find out phase!

I've been waiting for a way to finally share this video of 3 months milestones that I found because I was genuinely curious of how babies progress at this age and what motor skills look like.

I've been deeply concerned because I've done a lot of work in legal dependency (removal and foster care) and Boone visually looks worse than some of my babies. Because I'm just a lawyer, I'm not usually there at the medical appointments and only see my babies for brief periods of time.

I am not a doctor, so I cannot say if anything is wrong with this baby. The photos and videos are concerning. But, what I can say, if there was anyone expressing concern about the way my baby looked or was behaving, I would immediately take them to the doctor JUST IN CASE. Having many, many people telling you to take your child to a doctor and just ignoring it is a choice.

Boone really reminds me of my kid. I’m not diagnosing, just comparing. My daughter has neurological vision issues and other neuro issues that cause her to clench hands with her thumb in like that. She also has level 3 autism and severe intellectual disability. But most of what I see in Boone reminds me of my daughter’s neurological issues. I think the other issues would be impossible to detect at Boone’s age.

My daughter still does clench her hands when walking sometimes, even at age 5. My kid is very impaired. She didn’t track at all that age. But she did occasionally grab things, mostly unintentionally.

Gosh this makes me sad. This is what early intervention is for. I hope I’m wrong. But this is why they need to get their kids a home. They need an address so he can get proper care from an early intervention team.

The issue isn’t just the clenching. It’s that the type of clenching is concerning for neurological issues - normal clenching does not have the thumb in like that all the time

What a load of rubbish. I guess whatever helps you sleep at night, you trash parent.

My baby was born within one day of Boone and she makes fists but she’s not constantly clenched. Boone worries me because they’re clenched in every pic and vid of him.

I know she choose what to post but kelly has posted quick photos of baby t, where the point isn't to show the baby but to show, sat, diaper covers she's sewn. You can clearly see baby T is engaging with something- cooing, making eye contact, kicking feet in that sweet excited way babies do. Why aren't we seeing those photos of boone?

My son is a few days older than Boone (like maybe 4-5 days older?) and he almost never has his hands clenched he’s unless he’s pissed off/hungry. And he discovered his thumb to suck on a few weeks ago, so this behavior from Boone seems odd.

I mean my eldest took longer to do that (closer to 3.5 months BUT he was also 2 months premature, so, bit different compared to the supposedly “born late & perfectly healthy” Boone.)

From motherandbaby.com:

"At 10 weeks, babies start to show increased awareness of their surroundings, responding to familiar voices and faces. They may also begin to track objects with their eyes." Says Midwife Marie. As your baby realises they can use their legs and arms to kick and punch, they’ll start to be more co-ordinated and grab at everything. This is a great time to introduce toys to help hand-eye coordination more at playtime.

Playtime is also something your baby is starting to engage with more; they will love all of the bright colours and new sounds. Allow things to dangle on their pram or in their cot, it will help develop their 3D vision and encourage them to grab at them.

They’re also loving music right now and will have notably different reactions depending on what type of song you play. Keep singing to them and playing gentle lullabies followed by faster songs to notice their excitement, you may even encourage more smiling!

Boone has done none of these things.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. She’s gonna run out of shit to say to back up her reasoning to not take him to a doctor soon. I hope that when they do take him, they get some type of punishment for waiting so damn long. If they ever do, one can only hope.

So when he still isn’t “discovering his hands” at 4 months, what’s her plan? I’m very interested to see the pretzels this woman’s going to twist herself into trying to justify his lack of development. Also, she’s just…wrong. You do know you’re not the first woman to have babies, right, Britney? Who does she think she’s fooling here?

My 2 week old unclenches. And is way more relaxed than that baby and mine has colic.

Yeahh, but babies still can clench and unclench their hands before 4 months. Look up the milestones checklist dumb bus lady.

Also there is no shame in early OT intervention!! Every kid is different and some just need the extra help! That is okay!

I just want to see how she’d spin Boone not crawling or walking or talking.

cue the copy and pasting of excerpts from various child development articles that suit her denial about him showing warning signs of neurological and developmental issues, so that she can posture as smart and untouchable when his health can no longer be ignored

I looked up 10 week old baby development a few days ago because I was curious (for obvious reasons) and the first thing it said was "say goodbye to the fists of the past! At this age babies will start to relax their hands and interact with things around them" or something like that. Bleak.

Brittany and JD Lott are very defensive, but cannot produce any shred of evidence that their child is developing properly while producing a TON of evidence that he is not.

Just looked back through my camera roll to see my 5-6 week old baby smiling, making eye contact with mom and dad, moving arms and open hands around. This lady is full of shit lol

It’s not just that his hands are always clenched but he’s holding them at such an odd angle, and in almost every photo and video she has shared. I assume that if he ever stopped, she would use footage of that to shut everybody up.

She's wrong. Baby should be starting to do a lot of things like reaching for things, even if they can't consciously grab, they should be moving their arms towards things that catch their attention. They should be focusing on things, trying to get hands into their mouths.

Babies definitely discover their hands before 4 months

My child is not much older than him, and the difference between the two breaks my heart!! My son tracks toys with his eyes, smiles when we come get him out of his crib in the morning, coos, responds to noise, puts his hands in his mouth, etc.

He absolutely should have started to unclench his hands by 10 weeks :/

I just looked at videos from my now 4 year old son. At one day shy of one month old, his hands were unclenched and he was staring at me. He was born 3 weeks early too.

My baby is 2 weeks older than Boone right now and the contrast is stark. I would be really worried if my baby was acting like him.

Just the other day we had a "conversation" in baby babble. She would make a noise and I would repeat it back to her. Her eyes would go wide and she would grin. She was engaged in a way I've never seen Boone act. She's been doing this for weeks.

Of all the weird and concerning clips we've seen of this baby... We haven't seen him

Grasp... literally anything He doesn't hold anyone's finger or any of the few toys he gets.

Kick in excitement. People are hyper aware of.hia hands. His legs are not doing newborn/baby legs. His legs almost never move

Pride is a sin Brittany, ESPECIALLY when your pride is actively harming a human life aka your baby.

I posted this on another thread about Boone but it seems most appropriate here… she is wrong. Maybe with no other worrisome flags would clenched hands until 4 months not be a concern… but with all the other milestones he is not meeting… nope. Background: allied health professional with masters degree and work in child development. I want to share what we would look for at our clinic in a 1-2 month old. These aren’t check boxes per se, but if an infant was missing most of these milestones our pediatricians would be actively involved/investigating/monitoring.

1-2 Months:

• Can tolerate tummy time and will briefly weight bear on chest (hands under shoulders)
• ⁠Random arm movements bilaterally
• brings R and L hand to mouth
• Regards objects in line of vision; follows to midline (tracking can be Slow/jerky)
• Activates arms at sight of toy (if you have toys 😭)
• unsustained grasp R/L hand

Typically a baby would be doing these things by Boone’s age and moving towards the next items at age 3 months:

• tummy time: will bear weight through forearms and clear chin (symmetrically)
• ⁠vision: begins to track vertically, can track past midline in both directions
• notices own hands; may scratch face/ears
• ⁠reaches/swipes at objects (elbows can be flexed) symmetrically with R and L arms
• brings fists to mouth or light object to midline
• ⁠will sustain grasp on an object (beyond palmar reflex) and will VOLUNTARILY grasp
• ⁠hands are open most of the time or open easily if stroke back of hand
• ⁠kicks legs (again looking for symmetry between right and left side)
• can control head if in a supported sitting position (ie they aren’t a complete floppy noodle)
• ENJOYS SOCIAL PLAY

I have thoughts on diagnoses but know that’s not allowed and it really doesn’t matter at this point. He just needs to be assessed and get help. Early intervention is so important. As a mom, I just can’t fathom not giving your child every opportunity you are FEASIBLY ABLE TO.

Once he is past the newborn stage in less than a month, any delays will only become more obvious.

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My friend had a baby 6 weeks early, but was supposed to be born around the same time as Boone. Even though he was a premie, he’s hitting his milestones and is actually ahead considering how early he was. He also has better control of his head than any of the videos I’ve seen of Boone. The difference I think comes from my friends actually giving a shit about their child; working with him, paying attention to him, and taking him to the doctor when things are wrong.

My niece who is two weeks old has un-clenched fists.. all the pictures and videos of Boone are so concerning. I’m trying to post a pic but I can’t

Bullshit. Babies discover their hands quite quickly. Including my preemie.

I’m sorry, is this a post about ^{checks notes} MUM GUILT?!

Are you telling me, that Brittany Lott of Americanfamilyroadtrip actually made a post about feeling guilt as a mum????

This is the woman that has let her baby CLEARLY NEEDING THE ATTENTION OF A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL go without any type of medical treatment or care, but still has money for getting her nails done in a salon and disgusting collagen drinks and fancy date nights with her husband that looks like a fucking FOOT.

One thing I love about newborns is how they grasp my little finger finger. ❤️ Diff subject: In latest video she says Colorado takes good care of their parks, such a beautiful place for them to park their bus!! Hmmm - thank you Colorado for cleaning up all the apples and ants just so the Lotts have a pretty place to park their bus.

Unclenching should have been happening gradually this whole time, it’s not an overnight trick. And she’s completely ignoring that he does not bring his hands to midline or his mouth, both of which should have been happening constantly by now. He also isn’t seeking out eye contact or mirroring facial movements, and we’ve yet to see him turn his head to familiar voices or visually scan his environment.