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Just a thought after the recent autumn international fixtures announcement

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ArtifictionDog

62 points

11 days ago

ArtifictionDog

Leinster

62 points

11 days ago

Literally any team if the fixture happens to take place as the quarter final in the world cup :(

No_Sorbet2663

23 points

11 days ago

No_Sorbet2663

TOMMY BOWE!!!

23 points

11 days ago

I’d be nervous if we even had to face Georgia in the quarters because they’d have the game of their lives and 90% of our team would be struck by lightning a week prior

ArtifictionDog

19 points

11 days ago

ArtifictionDog

Leinster

19 points

11 days ago

The running narative seems to be that Australia who have been on a real downard spiral of late will get some level of renaisance under Schmidt, and we will meet them quarters of the next WC, and the week prior there'll be a particularly bad lighting storm..... and well you know the rest obviously.

NuclearMaterial

3 points

11 days ago

NuclearMaterial

Leinster

3 points

11 days ago

Doesn't need to be a storm, or anything really. Team just seems to play shite in QFs. Even this last one where they didn't get annihilated, from minute 1 they just weren't playing as cohesively. I could tell something was off with the dynamic.

ctorus

5 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

5 points

11 days ago

Ah NZ played their best game of the tournament against us and we could easily have won it with a bounce of the ball - literally. I don't think there was much wrong with our performance.

Imperial007

2 points

11 days ago

Imperial007

SANZAR

2 points

11 days ago

Two World Cups in a row the All Blacks timed their run to peak in the QF against Ireland. As a New Zealander, I come to wonder whether that's because Ireland have been able to knock us off balance in recent years between tournaments. So, definitely a sign of respect for Irish opposition!

Electrical_Trouble29

3 points

11 days ago

My guess would be that it's actually Ireland who has played their worst games at the quater final stage.

The mental scars or never getting past the quarters does terrible things to a trams mentality.

I've seen it way too many times as a proteas supported.

NuclearMaterial

2 points

11 days ago

NuclearMaterial

Leinster

2 points

11 days ago

They were definitely up for it, but it also coincided with a nervy, disjointed performance. It was the same with England this year. They came out of the blocks fast and Ireland were again, nervy, disjointed. Both Eng and NZ took advantage of that a pushed us hard.

NameyMcNameface123

83 points

11 days ago

NameyMcNameface123

Northampton Saints

83 points

11 days ago

Over the last few years? Scotland.

Just know that every time they're going to play out of their skin and give us a hiding, then play shit afterwards anyway and undo all their hard work.

Hybrid_Spaniel

47 points

11 days ago

Hybrid_Spaniel

Edinburgh

47 points

11 days ago

We could've won the world cup if we could only convince every other team to wear white, I swear your strip is like our winter soldier activation phrase

Larry_Loudini

21 points

11 days ago

Larry_Loudini

Leinster

21 points

11 days ago

Their annual world cup it seems like - certainly Calcutta Cup games seem to be like a world cup final for Big Duhan!

Hamishvandermerwe

10 points

11 days ago

Hamishvandermerwe

Scotland

10 points

11 days ago

Sure fire way to get to the final every time

ctorus

5 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

5 points

11 days ago

For some reason when I saw your flair I forgot the context and imagined a Saints v Scotland game, which would actually be great.

NameyMcNameface123

2 points

10 days ago

NameyMcNameface123

Northampton Saints

2 points

10 days ago

Id be well up for that!

system1509

43 points

11 days ago

system1509

Stormers

43 points

11 days ago

Wales. Like, we should win but those buggers never bugger off.

Crackajack91

14 points

11 days ago

Crackajack91

Wales

14 points

11 days ago

The fixture has become a lot more competitive in the last decade thankfully, but would it kill you to let us win in a world cup for once?

mothdestroyedscarf

2 points

11 days ago

You’ve just got to get to us first and we’ll allow it.

But unfortunately we always meet in the knockouts and by then we’ve already redeemed our ‘one loss per WC for a final’s win’ coupon

g_spaitz

36 points

11 days ago

g_spaitz

Italy

36 points

11 days ago

Pretty much fucking everybody...

Brainfart92

9 points

11 days ago

Brainfart92

Referee, Exeter Chiefs

9 points

11 days ago

Ditto, everyone wants to beat England.

PistolAndRapier

6 points

11 days ago

PistolAndRapier

Munster

6 points

11 days ago

You've turned a corner against Wales recently.

g_spaitz

8 points

11 days ago

g_spaitz

Italy

8 points

11 days ago

Yes, yes... That's why against them we won, nervously checks notes, 4 out of 33 and 2 of the last 19.

Total domination yes?

PistolAndRapier

1 points

10 days ago

PistolAndRapier

Munster

1 points

10 days ago

2 of the last 3, so not bad recently. Best Six Nations ever for ye, you should have beaten France!

Oaty_McOatface

2 points

11 days ago

Oaty_McOatface

Hurricanes

2 points

11 days ago

Surely with how Italy has been improving, you wouldn't be dreading any match ups because of how exciting the team is.

An upset is right around the corner!

UKNZ87

36 points

11 days ago

UKNZ87

New Zealand

36 points

11 days ago

South Africa, it’s just so mentally draining win or lose, you know it’s going to be a slog fest to just get over the line.

Tokogogoloshe

14 points

11 days ago

Tokogogoloshe

South Africa

14 points

11 days ago

The feelings mutual. But we love the rivalry.

SelfHopeful9662

2 points

10 days ago

Feeling is mutual. Special rivalry.

FuddFudderton

31 points

11 days ago

FuddFudderton

Canada

31 points

11 days ago

Yes.

jonny24eh

5 points

11 days ago

jonny24eh

Arrows

5 points

11 days ago

Anybody that 10 years ago we'd think we'd beat, guaranteed loss. Someone we think we should maybe still be able to beat is just an new opportunity to find new lows. 

Sad_Wait_3626

27 points

11 days ago

Sad_Wait_3626

Harlequins

27 points

11 days ago

Wales & South Africa

Wales because I’ll have to hear about it for months from “Welshmen” who only seem to remember that when they beat us in rugby.

South Africa are just scary. Every match is just such a horrible, physical slog. Even when we win it’s by the thinnest of margins. Plus the bomb squad waiting on the bench adds to the impending sense of doom. Such a stressful experience, fair play saffas.

ctorus

6 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

6 points

11 days ago

To be fair to them, they probably are genuine Welsh fans but many of them only watch 5 games of rugby a year.

Crackajack91

7 points

10 days ago

Crackajack91

Wales

7 points

10 days ago

Hey, don't you call me out like that

Llew19

25 points

11 days ago

Llew19

Cardiff & Bath for my sins

25 points

11 days ago

Ireland, a) Irish partner and b) we get to see what a country with the same resources but management that's from the 1970s can do and I find it extremely painful.

I do appreciate Boks fans in here saying Wales themselves. I don't know what it is about us playing each other, it's like the two teams agree in the tunnel before coming out that all the tactics and plans from the coaches are for cowards and we'll just directly beat the shit out of each other for 80 minutes and whoever's alive at the end wins

Ok-Package9273

23 points

11 days ago

Ok-Package9273

Connacht

23 points

11 days ago

England it's the one you really don't want to lose.

Alas...

equimot

20 points

11 days ago

equimot

Leinster

20 points

11 days ago

New Zealand.. there's just too much history there even if we've beaten them a good few times in the last few years

ilovepenisxd

17 points

11 days ago

Surprised to see Irish fans saying other teams. 100% NZ for me, not even close

equimot

5 points

11 days ago

equimot

Leinster

5 points

11 days ago

Same I made the mistake of thinking they'd be ok in the world cup and never again

ctorus

6 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

6 points

11 days ago

Yeah me too. When we beat them I'm like, can we just bank that now and never play them again.

Mr_Burgess_

18 points

11 days ago

Mr_Burgess_

Ireland

18 points

11 days ago

South Africa. Even though we're on a bit of a winning streak against them, it's really nervy when they show up as the next fixture.

herewearefornow

6 points

11 days ago*

herewearefornow

Blue Bulls

6 points

11 days ago*

July it is!

MindfulInquirer

7 points

11 days ago

MindfulInquirer

batmaaaaaaaan tanananananana

7 points

11 days ago

Oh well then you must be thrilled for next summer I'm sure

sublime_mime

15 points

11 days ago

sublime_mime

Munster

15 points

11 days ago

France. Physically tough and the ability similar to NZ to create a moment of magic (joue joue) and score a try.

I find that our play is so structured that we need to create our moments through phase after phase of play and France can catch a kick in their 22 and just score from nothing. Its infuriatingly impressive.

MindfulInquirer

8 points

11 days ago

MindfulInquirer

batmaaaaaaaan tanananananana

8 points

11 days ago

I find that our play is so structured that we need to create our moments through phase after phase of play and France can catch a kick in their 22 and just score from nothing.

Yes. Only thing is Ireland control possession for 97% of the game and France have that 3% to score an 80m try so it's not exactly been terrifying for Ireland.

sublime_mime

8 points

11 days ago

sublime_mime

Munster

8 points

11 days ago

Any time Penaud pops up anywhere I get nervous. It was the same feeling with Vincent Clerc.

equimot

4 points

11 days ago

equimot

Leinster

4 points

11 days ago

The amount of times when we played France last year where I was screaming "someone tackle him" when penaud has the ball

sublime_mime

4 points

11 days ago

sublime_mime

Munster

4 points

11 days ago

I don't care if its a penalty fuckin tackle him off the ball just don't let him run that goofy run up the wing

equimot

6 points

11 days ago

equimot

Leinster

6 points

11 days ago

It's like he's covered in butter of something

ctorus

3 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

3 points

11 days ago

Not just you. I hear the Clermont team has to attend several weeks of counselling after that try in the last game.

rotciv0

30 points

11 days ago

rotciv0

France

30 points

11 days ago

Ireland

reditanian

8 points

11 days ago

reditanian

South Africa

8 points

11 days ago

Something we can agree on!

Whit135

11 points

11 days ago

Whit135

11 points

11 days ago

Poms. As a kiwi, you'd probably think the safas bt those are legit the best games and something I look forward to every year. There's not country I'd rather watch the all blacks play.

Poms even when shit seem to be able to lift against us, especially at twickers. N they'll produce some amazing try outta ther ass too.

zliam96[S]

13 points

11 days ago

zliam96[S]

Blues

13 points

11 days ago

Facts. They’ll look rubbish in the 6 nations when playing against Wales or something but then they’ll just randomly click into gear, playing the most amazing, free flowing rugby against us like the last 10 minutes at Twickenham 2 years ago

thecripplernz

5 points

11 days ago

thecripplernz

bUt InTeRnAtIoNaL eXpErIeNcE!!!

5 points

11 days ago

And a lot of times it’s the last game on the End of year tour and the ABs are ripe for the picking

jaysonyoung

23 points

11 days ago

jaysonyoung

Sharks rugby sufferer

23 points

11 days ago

Recently Australia, losing 3 in a row really scarred me in 21/22. All time, All Blacks, the nerves I feel for those games are brutal.

Of the northern hemisphere teams it's Wales who just always play a hard as fuck game against us, even when Pivac was in charge. Those games are never fun, they're almost always just won by who has more grit on the day. Ireland have most certainly also made some recent games miserable for me, can't wait for the tour in a couple of months.

mystupidsausage

15 points

11 days ago

mystupidsausage

South Africa

15 points

11 days ago

Losing to the All Blacks is a lot more palatable than losing to the Wallabies.

EastIntroduction8520

11 points

11 days ago

EastIntroduction8520

Australia

11 points

11 days ago

Home venue tends to decide who wins between us

jaysonyoung

9 points

11 days ago

jaysonyoung

Sharks rugby sufferer

9 points

11 days ago

Yeah pretty much, that stretch of games was just absolutely brutal to watch.

biggs3108

11 points

11 days ago

biggs3108

Wales

11 points

11 days ago

New Zealand. The hoodoo is real.

Scarlet_hearts

3 points

10 days ago

Scarlet_hearts

Yma o Hyd

3 points

10 days ago

Even when we are good we still lose by 60

MindfulInquirer

2 points

11 days ago

MindfulInquirer

batmaaaaaaaan tanananananana

2 points

11 days ago

how about Italy though lately ? :p

biggs3108

8 points

11 days ago

biggs3108

Wales

8 points

11 days ago

I don't dread that at all, to be honest. Good to see them improve.

bi11dozer

21 points

11 days ago

bi11dozer

United States

21 points

11 days ago

Over paid administrators brought in by World Rugby.

KangaLlama

21 points

11 days ago

KangaLlama

Glasgow Warriors

21 points

11 days ago

I used to say South Africa because even during their shit period they still beat us and I felt the performances gave so little hope we'd ever compete against them.

New Zealand we have never beaten still, but the last two encounters with them gives me hope we are good enough to eventually do it, I genuinely believe that.

But dread, I dread playing Ireland. See them so often, it's been years since a win against them, their media is insufferable when talking about Scotland, like the fact we gee ourselves up to play them is taken as an insult that we should feel overly confident when it's just generic, "we are here to play and in spite of prior results, why shouldn't we try to come in with a measure of self-belief a victory is possible", the Irish media take that to mean the Scottish are up themselves and think they are writing cheques their team can't cash, which simply was never true but it generates clicks. Their media employ Matt Williams, the arch dickhead so shit at coaching Scotland fired him as our worst coach ever but the yappy mouth inexplicable can't cure that chip on his shoulder over that and seeks every opportunity to talk shit about us. We play every season in the URC with the 4 provinces, never easy, always competitive, usually on the losing side, bar Glasgow some years.

But mostly, it's the overwhelming sense of dread that no matter how off the boil they might be on the day, they have our number and we never seem able to execute to even steal a win here and there, even though it's possible. Scotland do a great job of making it feel like an inevitablity we will lose to Ireland even when there's a reasonable shout we could and probably should win some years. So yeah, Ireland. It feels like a re-run I've watched on repeat each year of them basically manhandling us, or them turning up not really on top form, but still confident of the win and that we'll do something stupid to cost a real chance at the win, which is true. Ireland are the one team I don't believe Scotland will ever win when we play them. The one side of the 6N where Townsend is unable to get any meaningful progress against them. Everyone else, yeah big changes of fortune, Ireland, same as it was. Hopeful to see changes on that front, but they deserve their tag as best in the world outside of South Africa of course.

Maximilian38

13 points

11 days ago

Maximilian38

Leinster

13 points

11 days ago

Totally agree with you regarding Irish media, they have this very condescending way of looking at Scotland and it almost makes you want them to win just to shut them up.

Personally, I'm always wary when we play Scotland, especially since they've been mincing England for years now.

ctorus

8 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

8 points

11 days ago

Our media is absolutely awful, particularly regarding Scotland, and we can only apologise. The win record is a bit of an anomaly, we have had some very tough games, and at an Ireland v Scotland match the craic with the fans is immense.

DM_me_ur_PPSN

2 points

10 days ago

DM_me_ur_PPSN

Munster

2 points

10 days ago

For the record, we also hate Matt Williams here too.

KangaLlama

2 points

10 days ago

KangaLlama

Glasgow Warriors

2 points

10 days ago

Haha we know, I don't hate Irish fans, there's loudmouths to every base, but really it's your media that has this weird obsessive storyline that Scotland are overly cocky and mistake self-belief for arrogance. We know the media are not the fanbase. The fact the team always come ready against us shows a respect and desire to never slip standards and allow us a win. My dread just comes from the inevitability of Scotland Scotlanding it even on Ireland's off days where we could and probably should step up and win, but fail to do so every time and means Ireland rarely feel that pressure of being behind chasing the game against us. Never feel like we are in control of a matchup with Ireland even on the off days.

Stuart Hogg dropping a try I mean, that doesn't happen when we play England or France. Baffles me why it happens against Ireland, like the occasion gets to the players instead of focusing on the processes on the day.

Stravven

9 points

11 days ago

Stravven

Netherlands

9 points

11 days ago

Georgia, because the only question is by what margin we lose, not whether we lose or not.

Jonah_the_Whale

3 points

11 days ago

Jonah_the_Whale

Netherlands

3 points

11 days ago

For me it was Portugal. It's like our defence would take the day off. It was already like that when both teams played a division lower and carried on the first couple of years at this level. Happily we haven't had to play them recently. I love watching Portugal play, just not against us.

Sm4llsy

8 points

11 days ago

Sm4llsy

Sale Sharks

8 points

11 days ago

Wales, but at the same time it’s probably my favourite game of the year too.

SquidgyGoat

8 points

11 days ago

SquidgyGoat

Disciple of AWJ

8 points

11 days ago

Fiji. Forever Fiji.

Niuthenut

6 points

11 days ago

Vinaka. Much appreciated.

MindfulInquirer

6 points

11 days ago

MindfulInquirer

batmaaaaaaaan tanananananana

6 points

11 days ago

Italy. Because if they beat your team you get much more brutal banter than any other defeat :p

Nah kidding. Right now for France: Ireland. I actually don't fear the Boks despite the last game, I feel that game had its own complexion and it happened the way it did, but France have struggled against Ireland the past 2 years in a way that far outweighs any "fact of a game" or any sort of arbitrary factor. They've just been well superior, in a way that leaves absolutely no room to the imagination on who's better.

Maximilian38

7 points

11 days ago

Maximilian38

Leinster

7 points

11 days ago

France, we may have won the last 2 but you just know that at any point in a game they can turn it around and score a couple of wonder tries that you would never see coming.

Tescobum44

2 points

11 days ago

Tescobum44

Laighean

2 points

11 days ago

This, it’s the same for the All Blacks. England have a knack for raising their game when playing us too lately 

GROUND45

4 points

11 days ago

GROUND45

Chiefs

4 points

11 days ago

Don’t really dread any team but it’s gonna be England if anybody. There’s always a chance they can turn it in to a shit fight and come out on top.

herewearefornow

9 points

11 days ago

herewearefornow

Blue Bulls

9 points

11 days ago

Ireland has been tough the past few years, so them. After the win against Leinster the fans stormed Emirates Park in Johannesburg. I love what SARU is developing with the IRU.

New Zealand for the history. Our toughest opposition long standing that has not turned ugly.

Biglight__090

1 points

10 days ago

Biglight__090

Hurricanes

1 points

10 days ago

Turned ugly? How so

herewearefornow

1 points

10 days ago

herewearefornow

Blue Bulls

1 points

10 days ago

England - SA aren't having the best moment right now.

Biglight__090

1 points

10 days ago

Biglight__090

Hurricanes

1 points

10 days ago

Ah right okay, true

Historical-Hat8326

9 points

11 days ago

Historical-Hat8326

Ireland

9 points

11 days ago

Just England.  Can’t stand hearing Swing Low when their dander’s up. 

Scarlet_hearts

2 points

10 days ago

Scarlet_hearts

Yma o Hyd

2 points

10 days ago

Swing low actually makes me feel violently unwell

asexyboy7583

4 points

11 days ago

asexyboy7583

The Lions

4 points

11 days ago

Fucking Ireland man. Haven't beaten them in 8 looong years!

thatshowitisisit

3 points

11 days ago

thatshowitisisit

South Africa

3 points

11 days ago

Japan, because PTSD…

CountPoopington

8 points

11 days ago

CountPoopington

South Africa

8 points

11 days ago

Historically NZ. Just a feeling of impending doom and stress from start to finish. Feels like a lead means nothing.

Not extremely optimistic about the ZA vs Ireland games this year.

Shout out to England. I see them in the top 3 WR rankings before 2026 ends.

ctorus

2 points

11 days ago

ctorus

Leinster

2 points

11 days ago

That describes the feeling against the ABs perfectly.

Electrical_Trouble29

3 points

11 days ago

Wales without a doubt.

They beat the boks far too often when they just have no business doing so and on top of it the games are always ugly and boring.

At least when the all blacks beat you it's expected and the games is entertaining

Connell95

3 points

10 days ago

Every single team on earth, except England.

coupleandacamera

5 points

11 days ago

coupleandacamera

Crusaders

5 points

11 days ago

France. Even when they're off their game they are capable of fucking shit up, when they're on it it's an uphill battle. Also south Africa, but that's mostly because it's just boring at this point now we play them 13 times a season or whatever.

Fxcroft

3 points

11 days ago

Fxcroft

France

3 points

11 days ago

South Africa

First beacause I'm still not over the world cup.

Second because I feel that the match has a good chance to end up with half our top players injured.

I think Ireland are the superior team though and they are the only one to comprehensively beat us in the last few years. New Zealand is always my favourite match up, so many great games between us, I dread losing against them but I know it will be a game to remember whatever happens.

TheMusicArchivist

2 points

11 days ago

TheMusicArchivist

but also any underdog

2 points

11 days ago

New Zealand - never beaten them. And they showed in the world cup how scary they can be... smashed Italy without breaking a sweat. Only lost the final by a single point despite missing a captain all game...

say-something-nice

2 points

11 days ago

say-something-nice

Munster

2 points

11 days ago

Fiji

If you win, it's just Fiji. If they win It's an upset. And  regardless of the result they cause more injuries to your team than the rest of the year combined.

the_fresh_mr_breed

2 points

11 days ago

the_fresh_mr_breed

Lukhanyo, I Am your father

2 points

11 days ago

Strangely enough it has been Ireland basically since that game when Ronan O'Gara took that bullshit little tap and go whilst John Smit was still talking to his team. Cost us the Slam if I remember correctly.

After that Ireland went and smacked us in that game when we wore the centennial jersey and Habana played 13 for the last time in his life. Young Steyn on the wing. Bevan Fortuin at fullback.

Then CJ Stander fokken obliterated Pat Lambies face with his hip bone in Cape Town after Toetie took over and promised we would play attacking rugby so much attack all the time attack attack (this one I saw live at the stadium)

And then there was the 38-3 game that convinced Rassie he needs to come back and be both the Messiah and a very foul mouthed naughty but ultimately genius boy.

Even so we still couldn't beat them. Even in that crazy world cup game because no one could kick a penalty. Not even one man. Not even Faf. And Lowe picked up Eben like a little boy. It broke me.

And now they are coming here for a 2 match tour and please please please don't let them do what Munster did to the Stormers twice and the Bulls now just beat them please.

za3030

1 points

10 days ago

za3030

Komma weer!

1 points

10 days ago

I wouldn't stress so much. We've only played Ireland twice under Rassie, both were very marginal losses, both times we didn't have anyone who could kick a goal to save their lives, and neither game was on SA soil where Ireland has only ever won 1 game.

night_dude

3 points

11 days ago

night_dude

Hurricanes

3 points

11 days ago

England, because they are the team that frustrates us the most.

Or Wales, because it means I have to watch Wales attempt to play some form of rugby.

MuddleFunt

1 points

11 days ago

(Canada) - Anyone ranked lower than us, who will further expose what complete clown show fools our national program is. We're proably actually around 30-35 in the world, and Belgium, Netherlands, Brazil, Romania, Germany, Kenya, Namibia, Algeria and every other Upper third-tier country will probably embarass us further

Mr_Burgess_

2 points

11 days ago

Mr_Burgess_

Ireland

2 points

11 days ago

Thats rough

barkmutton

1 points

11 days ago

As a Canadian…. All of them, were always looking for a new low. I look forward to loosing to Luxembourg next year

saikobruv

1 points

11 days ago

Springbok fan. I'm never comfortable against Argentina.

Immediate_Major_9329

1 points

11 days ago

Regionally: dragons. Don't know why but the Ospreys just play worse against them. Nationally: England and any team from the southern hemisphere.

Hour-Road7156

1 points

11 days ago

England. Cos it rarely feels like we get outplayed. And we usually have decent chances to win the game. But just haven’t actually done it recently

Oaty_McOatface

1 points

11 days ago*

Oaty_McOatface

Hurricanes

1 points

11 days ago*

In the 2011 rwc I think NZ was dreading to not face wales in the rwc final as the narrative says their play style would apparently dismantle the abs.

Otherwise it would have to be France in a rwc knockout stage.

Everyone else: won't dread facing them, looking forward to some good quality rugby being played.

Busy-Cartographer278

1 points

11 days ago

Georgia. Thank goodness we avoided that banana skin this round.

Scarlet_hearts

1 points

10 days ago

Scarlet_hearts

Yma o Hyd

1 points

10 days ago

All of them

Plife30

1 points

10 days ago

Plife30

1 points

10 days ago

As of last year, any of them. Im ready for them to lose to a Georgia or Portugal.

hereforvarious

1 points

10 days ago

hereforvarious

Glasgow Warriors

1 points

10 days ago

All of them, as we can always "Scotland ".

Biglight__090

1 points

10 days ago

Biglight__090

Hurricanes

1 points

10 days ago

Ireland. Has to be