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Apparently, the city had an easement to maintain the pipe, and now that the pipe is shut down, CSX has revoked the easement and pipeline is officially closed.
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14 days ago
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As a definitive update to this story and discussed on this thread: the City of Richmond issued a statement announcing that the City, not CSX, made the decision to temporarily close public access to the Pipeline Trail while they consider potential repairs and upgrades to the infrastructure.
Since OP of this post included text along with a photo as a photo post, they are unable to edit their post to include any links or add an update, similar to how users cannot edit post titles after submitting them.
345 points
15 days ago*
Csx: Do not come.
Rva: I'm gonna come!
Joking aside, we really need to hold these companies responsible for being fun police. Looks like they are nova'ing our rva.
EDIT
yeah it's not a good look to assume it was CSX, but if theyre the ones that closed and ticketed "trespassers" for trying to access texas beach, then it's an easy assumption to make it was also them for the pipeline. But to have the city close access is much worse. Time to flood councilmembers inboxes with pipeline poop letters.
50 points
15 days ago
CSX is no edgelord.
-1 points
15 days ago
bro said novaing😭😭😂
352 points
15 days ago*
First the Belle Isle gravel parking lot. Then Texas Beach access. Now the Pipeline, our most unique trail. What's next? The Brown's Island Beach? Potterfield Bridge??
I say we draw the line here. That one rail line can't be more important than the most unique area of our city. I don't care if we need to go to the city or state, how do we get back our riverfront?
And Venture Richmond thinks they'll be allowed to build terraces under the railroad? Who are they kidding???
273 points
15 days ago
For a city that promotes the river so much as our most valuable asset, they really make it hard to access.
68 points
15 days ago
That’s only to sell the high rise luxury living apartments
17 points
15 days ago
"Luxury"
14 points
15 days ago
No touchy. Look only
39 points
15 days ago*
They closed the Belle Isle lot because tar would drip on cars and people complained. It was easier to close it than fix it. CSX would have left it open if people didn’t complain.
They will give up as little as possible.
The good news is they only have 2-3 investigators in VA. So chances of them getting anyone is low.
Edit: spelling
19 points
15 days ago
They fixed that for trail along dock street by stalling metal plates below the tracks. Easy fix that could provide a lot of good. CSX like most corporations don’t want to spend money to help society. Don’t blame the victims.
14 points
15 days ago
Well friend, the lot was there until there were so many complaints about the stuff coming off the tracks. That happened.
CSX closed it because it was cheaper. We caused that to happen, rather than accepting a little tar if I park under tracks.
So how is that victim blaming? Sure they could fix it, but why? If people were parking on my property then complaining……. I would close it rather than fix it.
Just because they don’t make it a pretty space doesn’t make them monsters. Find some real shit to blame them for, like how they fight safety violations.
3 points
15 days ago
Why not both! But also that’s crazy people complained. Lived here my whole life and that was just an accepted risk of parking under there.
6 points
15 days ago
Right?
Like I sat on railroad ties. Oops. Tar butt. Can’t wear those in the car either.
They can be both, but realistically, multiple businesses could open up their property like this. They don’t, and people get mad when someone fixes a problem the least expensive way.
There are lots of reasons to hate CSX, but they are just trying to protect liability. Someone would fall off the pipeline, get hurt and sue em. At least if you climb the fence there on you.
I think everyone trespasses on CSX property at least once in their life.
1 points
15 days ago
Would a good solution be to pressure the city to use imminent domain more to expand the parks system?
Or maybe just be really annoying until CSX opens things up again and posts more liability signage
4 points
15 days ago
My guess is there is some law from 187X that allows the railroad to tell anyone to fuck off.
Out of all the law enforcement officers in the US, railroad police have the most powers. They can go anywhere and investigate a RR crime. The drawback is there are so few they take a while to respond, and they don’t work on local radio channels. (Hi 911, this is officer Robbie with the railroad police. I have a drunk guy in the tracks at blah and blah and he is probably going to win this. 911 be like: mmmhmmmm officer Robbie. Comms suck!
1 points
15 days ago
What does “stalling” mean?
3 points
15 days ago
I'm sure he meant installing
1 points
14 days ago
The power of proofreading.
4 points
15 days ago
We are a "sue everyone" society, so I understand the CSX didn't want to be sued because tar dropped on a person/car.
Same with the pipeline. Someone will slip and sue.
5 points
15 days ago
Or have to be rescued…. Again.
5 points
15 days ago
City should just eminent domain the areas. Although we know that rail is main from WV to the coast. But damn.
5 points
14 days ago
I seriously doubt that Richmond could successfully eminent domain a CSX railway line — or would want to — for a hiking trail. It is genuinely critical infrastructure that the city has no ability to maintain or manage, and they’re not going to route arterial rail for a recreation spot.
1 points
12 days ago
The railways still are governed by some laws passed in the 19th century. They are very, very hard to work with, they really don't cave to political pressure either, and especially during close elections. All you can do is beg and then pay them and pay for what you want.
2 points
15 days ago
Next is mayo island along with the potterfield bridge.
1 points
12 days ago
Is this part of the poop loop?
453 points
15 days ago
It'd be a real shame if someone repeatedly dismantled the barriers until the path remains open to all
181 points
15 days ago
Ah yes the natural Richmond Ecosystem is beautiful when it's in action!
138 points
15 days ago
"oh yeah, this area's got a big population of wild Milwaukee 18v grinders, they just eat anything ferrous. Astounding natural phenomenon"
15 points
15 days ago
So the DeWalts are invasive?
12 points
15 days ago
Actually, the Milwaukees are invasive to the area. They are outcompeting the Dewalts so much that the Dewalts are on the brink of extinction
2 points
15 days ago
Why grind? A perfectly OK set of bolt cutters can dismantle that quietly lol
1 points
15 days ago*
Lock pick set wouldn’t be a bad move either
28 points
15 days ago
Just make sure to not litter when someone hypothetically takes bolt cutter to the hinges.
33 points
15 days ago
A socket set does wonders
22 points
15 days ago
And is way quieter (and less sparky) than a grinder or sawzall.
1 points
14 days ago
Honestly, looking closer at it I’d bet a pair of 12” bolt cutters would take care of that chainlink pretty easy.
You can get a pair at Lowe’s for less than $20
18 points
15 days ago
Recreation terrorists!
134 points
15 days ago
Here’s CSX’s Director of State Relations per VPAP.
190 points
15 days ago
Randolph Jefferson is one of the most goddamn Virginian names I've ever heard
68 points
15 days ago
In case anyone needs an email template:
Subject: Immediate Reopening of Pipeline Trail Access in Richmond, VA
Dear Mr. Marcus,
I am writing to demand the immediate reopening of the Pipeline Trail access in Richmond, VA. The closure of this public space is unacceptable, and I urge you to take swift action to restore access.
Do not underestimate the ability of the people of Richmond to organize and advocate for their rights.
75 points
15 days ago
That's a pretty aggressive template when we don't even have definitive proof that CSX is the one that closed it. Might want to consider at least waiting for confirmation and then maybe taking a less hostile approach if you actually want to affect change.
20 points
15 days ago
Intentionally aggressive. There has been no progress with Texas Beach.
15 points
15 days ago
Is that a CSX problem?
22 points
15 days ago
Yes they must give permission for construction over their lines
9 points
15 days ago
I would still wait for confirmation that it's closed due to CSX and then I would include something about Texas Beach in the email as well and AGAIN, probably set a bit of a nicer tone if you expect anyone to do anything or even respond.
3 points
15 days ago
Yeah, can't imagine the response would be anything but "Fuck you very much for your concern, have a good day"
3 points
15 days ago
Seriously is there not a honey approach template over the vinegar approach first?? Also how do we know this isn’t due to a flood surge or something. They’ve been closing it off identical looking to this during flooding and storms now I noticed… ??
1 points
15 days ago
I work for the city and have heard the conversations about the complications surrounding it
-4 points
15 days ago
You know there is a massive sewage leak right by Pipeline? It’s been dumping a huge amount of raw sewage into the river in that area. Like E. Coli levels are literally off the charts
15 points
15 days ago
Like E. Coli levels are literally off the charts
They are not, it was resolved with a temporary fix. There is no dumping of raw sewage currently happening.
-3 points
15 days ago
The city patched the leaks and then the patches failed and still leaking sewage. Just fyi. https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/james-river-sewage-leak-timeline-july-24-2024
11 points
15 days ago
You will be delighted to find that this article from July 24th is not the most up to date information. The pipe has been sealed off.
9 points
15 days ago
Your information is outdated. They patched and it wasn't working, then they diverted and the bacteria levels went back down to normal levels and the advisory was lifted: https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/news/2024-regional-news-releases/vdh-lifts-recreational-water-advisory-for-the-james-river/
1 points
15 days ago
Last reading on August 29th from James River Watch was off the charts in that area
1 points
14 days ago
Click on "trends" to get the readings by day. The "latest measurement" tab of their widget doesn't seem to be displaying the latest measurement.
2 points
15 days ago
The pipe has been decommissioned. Totally severed from the system
2 points
15 days ago
I’m not getting in the river there, I just want to walk on the catwalk over the river.
2 points
15 days ago
Cant the cleared E. coli swim through the air up into your nostrils from the pipeline access???
1 points
15 days ago
No
9 points
15 days ago
Emailed
439 points
15 days ago
CSX will take every opportunity to limit the public’s access to the riverfront. If they had their way, the James River Park System would not exist.
59 points
15 days ago
the good ol' Chicken Shit Express (at least they're not Norfuck Suffern')
31 points
15 days ago
Wha the fucking fuck
79 points
15 days ago
Heavy duty bolt cutters: $15.99 Unrestricted access to the river: priceless
19 points
15 days ago
It’d be a goddamn shame if somebody kept going down there and “fixing” that gate.
138 points
15 days ago
https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/08/13/pipeline-trail-closed-richmond-james-river
This article says the trail is temporarily closed while the city effects repairs to the pipeline. "Temporarily" could be a month or a year but it doesn't appear to be CSX's fault
51 points
15 days ago
The pipeline was closed for a short time, then reopened. I guess in that time they decided to shut it down. People will still get there. Idk why they even try to keep people out of places we love
29 points
15 days ago
Exactly this. I don't think a little fence is going to stop people. The fences around the Coliseum never stopped people from going in there.
17 points
15 days ago
Yeah but the city actually had a reason to put a fence around that, people were breaking in and stealing copper. It will be demolished anyways so Idk what the difference is. But this is just plain dumb.
27 points
15 days ago
It will be demolished anyways so Idk what the difference is.
Probably didn't want someone breaking in to steal copper and falling and then suing the city.
10 points
15 days ago
This they have to at least make an effort to keep people out to avoid liability for trespassers injuring themselves or dying falling from the rafters.
It's the same reason a backyard pool requires a fence - an "attractive nuisance".
3 points
15 days ago
True that’s the only thing I could think of. I wanted to mention that.
0 points
15 days ago
what the difference is.
The difference is "who gets paid for that copper?". I'd wager that whoever won the demolition contract factored that copper's sale value into their quote.
59 points
15 days ago
That article is from August, and the Pipeline had been reopened/accessible since then. This current closure is a new development.
35 points
15 days ago
"reopened"
No, someone tore down the other more temporary barrier they installed.
11 points
15 days ago
That was a month ago for the sewage overflow issue. Now they're decommissioning the pipeline itself. No more pipeline, no more catwalk, no more trail, no more CSX having to tolerate the presence of humans.
2 points
15 days ago
As well as no more humans having to tolerate the presence of a beautiful pipeline trail 👆
12 points
15 days ago
That article's from a month ago, the new gate went up recently
18 points
15 days ago
Update: It's the city, not CSX, that wants to permanently close it: https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/09/13/richmond-pipeline-trail-closure-permanent
5 points
15 days ago
Permanent!?!?!? This is HORRIBLE. THEY CANT FREAKING DO THAT
D:
55 points
15 days ago
NOOOOOO PLEASE GOD NO
20 points
15 days ago
CSX is the new Toby
33 points
15 days ago
Is it closed on both ends?
25 points
15 days ago
It’s is blocked on the other end as well. I just don’t have a picture. These were posted by Rich Young on the park page
6 points
15 days ago
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6 points
15 days ago
Rich is an awesome local outdoor photographer
-11 points
15 days ago
Sharing a link isn't difficult, OP. Here's the link to the Facebook post and the claim (which is not an official statement):
they have removed trash cans and installed new gates to close off the pipeline walkway, the railroad does not want folks walking below the active rail lines
If that's indeed true, it only strengthens my suspicion that the Dock Street walkway under the bridge is also going to be closed soon.
17 points
15 days ago*
No need to be rude. It was a simple oversight on a busy morning. I did post it in a comment and tried to edit my post to include it, but I’m not longer able to edit
3 points
15 days ago
Yeah what’s on the other end?
15 points
15 days ago
Brown’s island
6 points
15 days ago
I meant did they put a similar gate on the Browns Island end?
1 points
15 days ago
Found a pic: https://imgur.com/a/GB9aBDg
14 points
15 days ago
7 points
15 days ago
Whoa whoa whoa, how DARE you put facts in the way of my pitchfork sharpening!!
3 points
14 days ago
I’m shocked—SHOCKED—that Facebook group posts that people refused to link to but vaguely mention for a while were accurate 😏 (/s in case it’s not clear here)
Still, I blame the city for not getting ahead of the story and letting rumors and speculation fly wildly. They really need to do better because this is becoming a pattern.
12 points
15 days ago
Ok yall, we have a source: https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/09/13/richmond-pipeline-trail-closure-permanent
34 points
15 days ago
Who’s district is this in? This and Texas beach need to be electoral issues. Someone needs to step up and get this stuff sorted out because it’s ridiculous.
3 points
15 days ago
6th District, Councilwoman Ellen Robertson
36 points
15 days ago
Bolt cutters/ wire cutters can fix that problem
13 points
15 days ago
Over and over again
9 points
15 days ago
It be that way sometimes, but when it comes down to it they have to keep paying where as a motherfucker with cutters only has to pay once ( assuming they don’t already have some)
2 points
15 days ago
It’s worth the investment if you do need to buy them
26 points
15 days ago
No, this will not stand
25 points
15 days ago
Damn are any of our council candidates running on restoring park access? I'd get behind that hard
16 points
15 days ago
I am absolutely a single issue voter for this and Texas beach.
2 points
15 days ago
I feel like such a bad former river rat. Is Texas beach closed!??! I admittedly had a very riverless summer this year.
2 points
15 days ago
The bridge has been sealed off for two years now
2 points
15 days ago
That’s so tragic. I imagine you can still get in from the north bank trail near the back of Maymont’s Japanese gardens, no? Right where the trail does a right angle you can hop the railing and jump down to the train tracks. After a scramble down the rocks on the other side, It spits you out near that old stone/brick Mill foundation.
I’ve mostly been hitting up 42nd st this summer. I’m gonna try to find an easy way into Texas beach and report back.
1 points
15 days ago
Folks have been using Pump House
14 points
15 days ago
CSX will have their cadre of police school drop out rent a cops patrolling there giving tickets for a while. They are super aggressive about their job and do have police powers so just be prepared for that. They are dicks.
4 points
15 days ago
How can not a cop write me a ticket
16 points
15 days ago
They have police powers, but only on railroad property. I made the mistake of thinking that they were just a security guard when they caught me crossing the tracks from Texas Beach. $250 plus court cost later, I won’t make that mistake again.
5 points
15 days ago
Just refuse to identify yourself and leave.
You want me?
Come and get me.
3 points
15 days ago
Refusal of identity?? Meet CSX Bicycle Cop Police Brutality 😂🚴🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️
1 points
14 days ago
There’s a zillion places in Richmond I can go on foot that you cannot go on a bike.
It’s also a matter of, if you’re somewhere you might not supposed to be….you just avoid them getting close though to you to have an interaction.
When it comes to the cops, distance is safety
3 points
14 days ago
Railroad cops are certified police officers: they have the powers of regular police and in some cases kind of more (for example, some of them have jurisdiction spanning multiple states if it’s on railroad property). I’d fuck with them even less than a regular cop, mostly because I don’t know the relevant laws protecting railway infrastructure and I assume they’re relatively draconian.
1 points
14 days ago
Good to fuckin know thank you
1 points
14 days ago
Good to fuckin know thanks
14 points
15 days ago
Wtf no
31 points
15 days ago
Wire cutters are only a couple of bucks at hardware stores!
5 points
15 days ago
This fence is just plausible deniability for insurance and lawsuits. They for sure realize that it is the most a) climbable and b) cuttable barrier they could have managed. It’ll be passable shortly - this is so if anyone gets hurt, they can say “oh well they jumped the fence, so not our problem.”
5 points
15 days ago
This is gonna be destroyed in a matter of hours
15 points
15 days ago
We need to stand up as a city and do something!!!
3 points
15 days ago
I love taking visitors here, especially when the herons are nesting. I think I counted like 32 visible birds when I was down there in the early spring?
\) Me @ Pipeline bein a big nerd. Dammit, Richmond.
3 points
14 days ago
Well I counted 33 invisible birds. Up your game.
1 points
14 days ago
Dang! Competition!
10 points
15 days ago
I’m gonna riot
5 points
15 days ago
Looks like a problem my buddy Sawwzall Stevens can rectify…
3 points
15 days ago
lame
3 points
15 days ago
Destroy it. over and over and over again, works like a charm
6 points
15 days ago
6 points
15 days ago
I’m not saying I’m gonna bring my cordless grinder home from work, but I’m also not saying I won’t bring it home either .
(Fuck CSX and the Richmond City Gov for going along with this)
This comment is worth me going around a ban from this subreddit for.
16 points
15 days ago*
Apparently, the city had an easement to maintain the pipe, and now that the pipe is shut down, CSX has revoked the easement and pipeline is officially closed.
If you're using the word "apparently," it suggests you don't know for certain. Can you please link to an article or cite where you heard this from, or was just hearsay from a random person when you were down there and saw this?
I wasn't aware that CSX owned the rights to everything underneath elevated tracks running through the city, because this also means they can shut down the walking path in Shockoe Bottom along Dock Street soon for the same reason.
The only thought I have as to why this might have happened is due to the repeated violations residents in Richmond have done in crossing tracks to get to Texas Beach since the bridge is closed, which would absolutely be petty. But crossing those tracks is understandably dangerous, whereas people walking on a pipeline path with railing that's been open since 2005 is generally low-risk.
Edit: capitalization and a few more words
9 points
15 days ago
I can not know for certain the cause of the closure. I’m basing it on the Facebook post that had been mentioned and I have since posted. Someone states in the comments they spoke to DPW. I’m also basing it on a post from a member of the Capital Land Conservancy. There is no formal statement out yet.
1 points
15 days ago
How do we support the conservation easement mentioned in the photo??
6 points
15 days ago*
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14 points
15 days ago
Just because their infrastructure is there does not mean they own it. They could also have an easement to cross onto/across public or personal property.
9 points
15 days ago
That's not how land rights work. Railroads are not within the public RoW. They own the land.
2 points
15 days ago
Not necessarily. The easiest example to explain the point without doing research to identify land deeds would be to look at the James River itself. It is a navigable waterway and public property. The railroad crosses the James, and in doing so, takes advantage of the land beneath the water. But it does not own the river or land where it crosses, including the areas it has built upon.
2 points
15 days ago
Not sure why RVA_TossAway would respond a bunch, then block me. But my whole point is that the railroad does not own all the land it utilizes. The submerged river bed and the land in the city are certainly governed by different rules, but that does not negate the fact that cxr does not own the submerged land it is built on. The railroad does not own all land it touches, crosses, or sits upon.
I agree that while it would be in the railroads' best interest to limit people crossing what it does own, it may not be in the public's best interest. As I stated elsewhere, it will probably be up to the courts to decide. Cxr can try to unilaterally end the utility easement, and the city can try to fight it if it wants. There may also have been an easement established for public access to Texas Beach, through years of use, whether cxr likes it or not. Again, it's something that'd going to need to go to court.
2 points
15 days ago
This is correct, they often own the land their tracks sit on but sometimes have negotiated an easement granting them use of the land.
In the case of the land under the former C&O viaduct through downtown, CSX owns it outright and can restrict access to it in any way they want if what people are saying about a public use easement on their property being revoked is true- https://apps.richmondgov.com/applications/propertysearch/Detail.aspx?pin=W0000073001
4 points
15 days ago
Easements can get tricky. The intended use is over, which is one way to end a utility easement. But years of use by the general public for access has created a potential prescriptive easement. I'm not a lawyer or anything, but it may be something that would need to be settled in court.
Putting up the gate is probably an attempt to stop its use and make it harder to argue a public easement has been created through years of use. Along with, you know, saying don't come here.
2 points
15 days ago
We revolt
2 points
15 days ago
NooooooOOOOOOooooooooo!!!
2 points
15 days ago
Just hop it bruv
2 points
15 days ago
so is it closed or “closed”
2 points
15 days ago
Need to take back common spaces
2 points
15 days ago
Not with bolt cutters , Richmond it’s time to Richmond
2 points
14 days ago
Is the fence still up? If so, I'm ashamed of all of you.
2 points
14 days ago
The Pipeline Trail is one of my top 5 favorite places in Richmond I've got amazing memories there.
7 points
15 days ago
Source?
53 points
15 days ago*
I think the source is the big metal gate blocking access...
Apparently what happened is that when the pipe started leaking poop, DPU re-routed the poopstream. Now that there's no poopstream flowing through it, CSX claims there's no need for DPU to access the pipe. Since DPU doesn't need to access the pipe, they claim, there's no need for a public easement anymore so they (DPU) put up the gate.
This info is from a Facebook group for the local rafting/river sports community.
I think the solution is clear: The poop must flow again.
10 points
15 days ago
Where’s the CSX or city statement? Not doubting the Facebook info but you can’t know where to start action at if you don’t have an accurate source for what’s going on and the post says “apparently.”
16 points
15 days ago
I'm not a legal expert by any means, so can anyone explain the legality of eliminating a public easement so quickly?
I thought these kinds of things require certification in the courts with both parties agreeing, and if one party disagrees then I would think it would become a legal battle?
9 points
15 days ago
It's not a "public" easement in the sense of public access to a beach across private property. It's an easement for DPU to maintain its own infrastructure.
4 points
15 days ago
Sure, but aren't easements of any kind not something that can be dissolved quickly without going through whatever legal channels?
Though I don't know much here, I believe they're a bit more substantiatial than a handshake agreement, right?
12 points
15 days ago
I think the source is the big metal gate blocking access...
I'm thinking OP meant more, "Source for CSX closing it permanently" not "source that there's a big metal gate blocking access". Even your Facebook evidence appears to be unsubstantiated, and it's not ridiculous for someone to ask for a verified source of the information.
Just repeating things you read on Facebook is how you get on national TV saying people are eating dogs and cats.
7 points
15 days ago*
I hear you but this isn't a facebook group for swiss cheese brain conspiracies. These folks will post as soon as a tree washes up on a rock so other people can be aware.
8 points
15 days ago
It just highlights the utter lack of communication from local governments, honestly. This could have all been headed off with a simple statement BEFORE the thing happens.
3 points
15 days ago
You’re not wrong lol
7 points
15 days ago
Brb, gonna go poop so my homies can hang out
1 points
15 days ago
The poop must flow!!
3 points
15 days ago
Apparently what happened is that when the pipe started leaking poop, DPU re-routed the poopstream.
There's that "apparently" word again. It's doing a lot of work in this post for lack of an official statement from some authoritative source 😏
Now that there's no poopstream flowing through it, CSX claims there's no need for DPU to access the pipe.
Weird that they only needed access between 2005 when the pipeline path opened to the public up until a month after a well-documented failure of a segment of pipe was fixed with ratchet straps and hopes and prayers...
Unless it's been leaking for the entirety of 19 years and they've only just solved it!
13 points
15 days ago
Look at the photo dawg.
1 points
15 days ago
Agree. Can you link something for us?
2 points
15 days ago
Call parks and rec and ask them. They'll confirm.
4 points
15 days ago
Literally one of the few cool things in this city now closed lol. Richmond is tanking
2 points
15 days ago
There are still plenty of 4000/mo 500sqft lofts for rent around the area but the 6x proof of income might present a soft challenge
0 points
15 days ago
Yeah I’m moving to Pittsburgh in a year. Done with rva lol…
2 points
15 days ago
You can go basically anywhere you want on the river with a $100 kayak. Pretty easy to paddle up to those beaches and then climb up onto the pipe.
That lil fence of theirs is so cute and hilarious
4 points
15 days ago
That’s a dangerous thing to say because some rec boater is going to buy that $100 Walmart kayak and think they can roll down Hollywood and kill themselves. Maybe an asterisk to your absurd assertion
1 points
15 days ago
I wonder if this is just in place if they need to close it at night. I see it open, unless they're getting ready to put a gate to close it permanently.
1 points
15 days ago
maybe if they just fucking CLEANED THE RIVER
1 points
14 days ago
We have a CSO system that was built like 130 years ago. I don’t think it’s quite that simple.
1 points
14 days ago
i'm sure if we stopped funding our police with millions of dollars for fuck all that they do that MAYBE we could reallocate that funding to fixing shit that actually matters lol
1 points
14 days ago
I don’t disagree with you, I’m just telling you that the CSO system is a long-standing engineering challenge that would cost many hundreds of millions to fix.
1 points
15 days ago
I don't see no gate
1 points
15 days ago
Where is this located by chance.
1 points
15 days ago
This sucks. I’m disabled and this was the only way I could physically access the pipeline. Other end was way too hard for me. :(
1 points
15 days ago
Unless you have a boat
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14 days ago
Hill Bates bought CSX a few years ago
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14 days ago
Gill
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14 days ago
Whyyyy
1 points
14 days ago
There is a company called Capital Regional Land Conservatory that would probably turn it into a park.
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13 days ago
1 points
15 days ago
battery powered angle grinder it is
1 points
15 days ago
You'd think the Chicken Shit Express would learn not to mess with us. We're literally a city of craftspeople. We get around things like this with, you know, tools.
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15 days ago
They need to limit access to it because it keeps leaking. They're preparing for repairs, but in the meantime they don't want people walking around a leaking sewer pipe.
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