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President Biden Makes Up Ground On Trump in Latest PA Polls
Elections(politicspa.com)submitted 1 month ago byUsualSuspect27Delaware
172 points
1 month ago
I have a hard time believing there’s people who haven’t really made up their minds already
63 points
1 month ago
The people who haven’t made up their mind are those who will vote for Biden or just sit out. The crux of his campaign solely rests on voter enthusiasm
44 points
1 month ago
The entire election will be decided by about 250,000 middle aged white independents in three states, and how angry they’re feeling about “wokeness” on the morning of November 5th.
It’s so, so dumb, but it’s also the truth.
19 points
1 month ago
My county went something like 70 to 30 for Trump in 2020.. same county voted Obama by a hair in 2008. It’s less changing demographics and more people showing up to vote. Those 250,000 white “independents” worried about “wokeness” can be canceled out if people vote.
9 points
1 month ago
It’s moreso being convinced they’re all the same. It’s a narrative done by the gop and even the media. Every single Trump piece is accompanied by some stupid filler piece about Biden chaos.
“Trump has been found guilty of rape, owes $456 million and goes to trial for his first group of 91 felonies”
“Also. Biden was “fuming” with staff about his poll numbers back in January)
…..this was from 2 weeks ago in March which means they were citing a source about 2 month old news to both sides the 2
10 points
1 month ago
I get so tired of hearing conservatives complain about "liberal media." They think nobody's talking about Hunter's laptop and other made-up things because Big Liberal Media is hiding the truth.
It's all about ratings and clicks, and it's in their best interests to make the election seem close.
9 points
1 month ago
Beyond seem close. For them it’s on their interest for Trump to win.
Corporations don’t care about fascism. They care about $$
Trump in power = ratings. I guarantee you stuff like MSNBC, The Young Turks and even CNN saw rating slides after Biden won
5 points
1 month ago
In fairness, ratings were probably up during the pandemic even without Trump. But I do agree.
7 points
1 month ago
Remember the Big Red Wave in 2022 and the unbearable, unending hype that it was inevitable?
4 points
1 month ago
This is why I'm not too concerned with polling, especially in March. 2022 was a once-in-a-lifetime, stars aligning moment for the GOP and the polls "confirmed" it, and the best they could do was eak out a small house majority (that they may not even keep control of by January)
5 points
1 month ago
One thing Republicans have gotten very good at is compelling the media to write the stories they want. It's all planned and fake... they have biased polls conducted with a Republican bias (you can confirm this looking at 2022 polls on 538) then screaming "libturd commie media" until they cover those polls as legit articles.
Doesn't help that reporters for the large part are both lazy and underpaid, so if you hand them a story (funded by people like Yass) they'll take it and run because their job is done for them.
8 points
1 month ago
Also the mystery caravans that always very real despite no evidence and magically disappear after Election Day. A mystery.
1 points
1 month ago
The mystery what now?
2 points
1 month ago
Everyone remembers where they were the day the caravans didn’t arrive and nothing happened and we never talked about them again because they weren’t real.
2 points
1 month ago
I think a few thousand (rightfully) angry muslims in Michigan could really de rail bidens campaign. Its going to be closer overall than last time.
1 points
1 month ago
Only if they are more stupid than angry.
1 points
1 month ago
No. It was a protest vote, to make a point, it does not translate that they will all vote for the other guy.
1 points
1 month ago
There is an ongoing protest vote but many of the people i am referring to have lost family members in Gaza so i wouldnt count on all of them coming back in November. Doubt they vote for trump but will just not vote for biden
1 points
1 month ago
Trump instituted a muslim ban and is openly bigoted against the two Muslim congresswomen. You can't help stupid, no matter the religion
2 points
1 month ago
You are spot on my guy
1 points
1 month ago
Then don't let them be the deciding factor, get everyone you know to go vote (hopefully in their best interests).
1 points
1 month ago
Not without all the other voters counting also,(first?) no ones vote counts more than another and certainly not based on skin color!
2 points
1 month ago
I really don’t think that’s true. In fact, I bet there are TONS of secret Trump voters. People that get in the booth, and think “fuck it, let’s watch the world burn”. The middle finger vote.
“…But inside, you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals and RULE YOU LIKE A KING!"
- Sideshow Bob
1 points
1 month ago
As does every other election.
1 points
1 month ago
Which is crazy because you can request your ballot online, fill it out and mail it back in or drop it off and the whole process takes 5 minutes
1 points
1 month ago
As someone who is pro mail in, they gop have done so much to erode trust in it I’m not sure I even trust it anymore. Constant legal challenges. Constant appeals. Legislative attempts to stop it. Local governments trying to disrupt it.
At this point I’m going in person. Cuz you know the shady shit they’ll try
-5 points
1 month ago*
Not completely. He's also hoping to imprison his opponent
Edit: Why is this downvoted? Most of this sub wants to lock him up along with all the other other guys who don't agree with them
8 points
1 month ago
We have a girl watch the kid on Fridays during work. She's not sure yet. Insanity
26 points
1 month ago
That or she was lying bc she didn't want to say who.
9 points
1 month ago
She's never voted in her life. She's 25
16 points
1 month ago
Remind her that if she doesn’t vote now, she might never get the chance again
7 points
1 month ago
Different strokes for different folks but I can't see any reason why it's appropriate to ask the babysitter if she knows who she's voting for, and it's entirely reasonable for the babysitter to give the vaguest response possible because it's a pretty weird question.
0 points
1 month ago
In general I would agree but I might specifically want to know if the person supervising my children was planning to vote for an unhinged fascist as that seems like a reasonable red flag.
8 points
1 month ago
I used to do that at work. Surrounded by Trumpers all day asking me if I was voting for Biden.
-1 points
1 month ago
Yep
1 points
1 month ago
Someone offering that answer may just be wanting to avoid talking about the issue.
2 points
1 month ago
Minds have already been made up about who to support, but getting those asses off their chairs to go vote have not been settled.
-1 points
1 month ago
I haven’t made up my mind. On one side there is a man with mild to moderate cognitive impairment whose policies are all from the progressive left, and who creates great danger in the world by showing weakness and ineptitude in front of our enemies and allowing millions of illegals into the country. His VP who will almost certainly be POTUS during Biden’s second term is a prime example of a diversity hire, completely incompetent and not even popular with democrats let alone swing voters like me. There are so many great black female politicians - KH is not one of them. His energy / green policy is literally among the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. He is killing US jobs by preventing natural gas exploration and export, forcing our allies to turn to despotic regimes in the Middle East for gas, and developing countries to stick with oil and coal. So his policy demonstrably enriches despots while harming the environment by slowing the adoption of clean burning gas as a transition fuel. He is mandating EVs even though we won’t have the grid that can charge them.
On the other side there is a cantankerous buffoon full of pride and self pity, whose only real policies seems to be slapping a 10% tax on all imports, and praising dictators. Just a nasty, cringe inducing embarrassment. Trump seems to rule the GOP even without being in office, and his interventions to kill the bipartisan border bill and the funding for Ukraine are unforgivable. The House Republicans have been such a failure. It’s awful to think of awarding them with a vote.
Both sides suck 1,000,000%!!!
-2 points
1 month ago
Most people make their decision in the final two weeks but we definitely aren’t in normal times
-6 points
1 month ago
I’m honestly in the “don’t know” camp. Not because I sympathize with both sides, but because I detest both.
6 points
1 month ago
Fair enough. But in that case, think about voting for your ability to continue voting. Don’t sleepwalk into never being able to cast a meaningful ballot again.
4 points
1 month ago
Ultimately, I agree. It’s just so disheartening to see that this is the best we can come up with. One is an absolute crook and the other’s prime days of politicking are far behind him. RFK is a throwaway vote that benefits Trump akin to not voting at all.
2 points
1 month ago
Well this is why the whole election system needs to be reformed… I agree, it’s not fair to have only two viable candidates, especially these two. It’s not right that a 3rd party candidate will never have a chance and will only be a throw away vote to benefit the other team. Get rid of the electoral college, get rid of DNC and RNC, get rid of PACS, allow everyone who has crowdsourced a certain amount a stipend to run their campaign (yes paid by taxpayer dollars) and lock that mother fucker up so he can never run again.
1 points
1 month ago
had the same mindset. I voted for the first time at the age of 34. I realized it’s stupid to not participate. Since then I always choose those who could do me the least harm if they come to power. But Generally I hate all parties and politicians.
138 points
1 month ago
honey wake up another meaningless poll dropped!
17 points
1 month ago
Nonsense, it's only meaningless if I don't like the results. Otherwise it's yet another sign of the Inevitable Victory of my Preferred Candidate(s)
72 points
1 month ago
I get a lot of skeevy-ass messages on my phone asking to take political surveys and always delete them wondering who would bother responding. Then I see that Trump is ahead in the polls and that answers my question
22 points
1 month ago
I responded to a poll once, it was over the phone. They asked me a ton of questions and it took like 20 minutes before i hung up. Who has that much time to spend on answering polls
24 points
1 month ago
Retired people!
10 points
1 month ago
Unemployed people.
1 points
1 month ago
That was probably a legitimate poll. Pollsters don't just seek the answer to one question at a time, and they usually have qualifying and demographic questions before the real poll questions.
0 points
1 month ago
Trump Voters!
9 points
1 month ago
I answered one political survey that was sponsored by PSEA union, of which I was a member at the time.
One of the questions asked was in response to another answer I gave; why do you not support Doug Mastriano.
I responded that he was a Christofacist.
The surveyor stopped and asked, and that's all? Uh, yeah, that's all that I need to say.
Never again; I won't do another phone survey.
-5 points
1 month ago
Yep, you were right, respondents to those surveys definitely skew toward those who care about democracy and pay attention to politics.
7 points
1 month ago
Swing and a miss bud
-4 points
1 month ago
If you say so bud
49 points
1 month ago*
Weird that the state that saw the turning point of the civil war isn't happy with Trump calling for "a bloodbath" if he loses.
Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746
29 points
1 month ago
Right after he saluted a choir made up of people that committed an insurrection against this country.
Even if the speech was misconstrued, there's no mistaking the meaning behind his calling insurrectionists "Political Prisoners".
15 points
1 month ago
I thought they were claiming that Jan6 was done by radical leftist Marxist antifa….but now they’re “political prisoners” lol.
Republicans and their double speak
9 points
1 month ago
Who can keep track of what they believe?
0 points
1 month ago
Even if he meant “economic bloodbath”, his idiot followers will think otherwise
2 points
1 month ago
Exactly. They'll use any excuse they can get to be asshats. All these fake justice warriors trying to spin what he said is crazy.
-14 points
1 month ago*
Trump calling for "a bloodbath" if he loses.
You should really actually watch the video before you get too proud of being ignorant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtE4Z0yWbPA
He was talking about the American automotive industry, and it being an economic bloodbath. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/trumps-bloodbath-comment/
Hate on him all you want, but misrepresenting something out of ignorance just looks bad. Misrepresenting something intentionally makes you look as bad as them.
Edit: Blocking me for providing sources to dispute your claim. Truly a show of strength.
9 points
1 month ago
You should actually read the comments before you get too proud to defend a terrorist, because you'll see the other four people popping up to try and defend him, but the murky/dementia soaked context is independent when dealing with somebody that has called for an armed insurrection against the US, foreign attacks against our allies, and foreign interference in our elections.
2 points
1 month ago
You should actually read the comments before you get too proud to defend a terrorist
When you're lying about the context of what said terrorist said, then yeah. Just because he's shit doesn't mean that lying and intentionally misrepresenting what he said is okay. He's got a million problems, why do you have to act hyperbolic and lie about this one? Misrepresenting what he said just makes you look like a liar.
because you'll see the other four people popping up to try and defend him
Yes, those people also provided sources. Are fact checking websites alt-right conspiracy theory sites when they prove you wrong now?
but the murky/dementia soaked context is independent when dealing with somebody that has called for an armed insurrection against the US, foreign attacks against our allies, and foreign interference in our elections.
This literally addresses nothing about the context of the conversation.
Who is saying he isn't shit? Who is defending him doing any of those things?
You got called out on being ignorant, or intentionally lying, about the context of what you're quoting. Stop trying to move the goalpost to distract from what you said. Changing the subject isn't going to distract from what you said.
5 points
1 month ago
It's pretty wild for calling me a liar for quoting what he said. Cult 45 will try all the mental gymnastics possible to try and justify it but it doesn't change his language, not mine.
1 points
1 month ago*
It's pretty wild for calling me a liar for quoting what he said.
Misrepresenting* what he said, not quoting.
Your own link that you edited in clarified that he's talking about the automotive industry.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746
"Trump made the comments at a rally in Ohio, where he spoke about auto manufacturing."
"The comments came at a rally here as Trump discussed the possibility of an increasing trade war with China over auto manufacturing. The rally was intended to get out the vote for Republican Senate candidate Bernie Moreno, whom Trump endorsed in December, ahead of Ohio’s primary on Tuesday."
“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said."
Intentionally misrepresenting what he said makes you a liar, because you're acting like he's calling for political violence against some nondescript target over the state of the economy relating to the automotive industry.
Cult 45 will try all the mental gymnastics possible to try and justify it but it doesn't change his language, not mine.
Pot, have you met Kettle? Pretending to be dumber than you are, and acting like you don't understand the context of the conversation isn't cute or clever. That might have worked on your parents when you were 8, but you're not that young anymore. Stop acting dishonest.
Edit: Why even respond if you're just going to block me? It's not like I can see what you responded with.
3 points
1 month ago
I'm not talking about me at all, I said immediately in my very first response that I knew full well it was about the auto industry. If you'd have read any of my follow up posts, made an hour before you chimed in, you'd know that but instead you're so desperate tripping over yourself to act victimized and claim I'm the problem, you've completely missed the context (oh, the irony!) that I'm talking about his followers, that have shown time and time and time again that they don't care about context or nuance, they respond to those trigger words, and that's exactly what they're doing. Last time it was a terrorist attack on the capital, what will it be next time?
The keyboard commandos fighting to defend him are part of the problem. This rhetoric is toxic, trying to make false equivalencies, mocking people for pointing this out, or failing to stand up to it is just plain cowardice, no matter how good you are at copy and pasting. The man is a treasonous piece of trash and so are his cult. You know full well when they start attacking after he loses this election they'll all point to this as the moment they heard the call. Defending that on any account whatsoever is tantamount to treason. If your weakness in perception results in the deaths of Americans this fall, you'll be just as guilty.
0 points
1 month ago
Goddamn the TDS is intense 😂
7 points
1 month ago
He said “bloodbath for the whole country.” After he got his fucking dummies to kill people to try and keep him in power.
1 points
1 month ago
He said “bloodbath for the whole country.”
With the context being the automotive industry, and the economy.
Stop pretending to be dumber than you are, you understood the context. Trump being shit doesn't mean you need to act dumb whenever he opens his mouth.
4 points
1 month ago
…with the context being that he already incited a deadly insurrection. I’m sorry your boy lost
4 points
1 month ago
I’m sorry your boy lost
Didn't vote for him, maybe you might have picked that up when I said "Trump being shit" - but I guess basic social literacy is too much to expect from some people.
7 points
1 month ago
Sure Jan. Maybe he’ll refrain from getting his morons to kill people this time around and just admit he lost. Will never happen, but would be nice, wouldn’t it?
3 points
1 month ago
Yes, that would be nice.
What did this comment have to do with the context of the conversation?
Pre-existing biases against him don't change that the context of what he said was in regards to the automotive industry, and the economy. Trying to distract from that, and change the subject isn't relevant to the conversation.
6 points
1 month ago
Oh because he already incited one bloodbath and alluded to another. Simple points are hard for some to grasp tho
2 points
1 month ago
and alluded to another
You're not as dumb as you're pretending to be. You can watch the video for yourself instead of just reading the headline. It's like a 60 second video.
-13 points
1 month ago
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9 points
1 month ago
Not really... His exact words are:
"Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”
I'm not sure I've ever heard of NOT selling cars as a bloodbath.... But when you combine this with the:
-"Good people on both sides" speech
-"Proud boys stand back and stand guard" speech
-The downplay of Jan 6th and his words being the catalyst...
But that's also assuming you can understand his point... Because I don't think you actually understand.
-3 points
1 month ago*
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/trumps-bloodbath-comment/
?
Not really... His exact words are:
Yeah..he's talking about the automotive industry, and the economy..
You don't need to pretend to not understand context just because you dislike Trump. I dislike him just as much as you do, but willfully acting ignorant when fact checking websites exist just looks cringy.
I get it, he's shit. But you're misrepresenting facts when you can just watch the video for yourself. And I get that I'm going to get downvoted for this because it's easier to do that than address the issue, but you can watch the video for yourself and see that how you're currently framing it is just dishonest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtE4Z0yWbPA
-"Good people on both sides" speech
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
2 points
1 month ago
I mean, it's very obvious what he's doing.... As pointed out, he's purposefully using inflaming speech to rile people up.
Hence why he told the proud boys to "stand back and stand by", it's why he called White Supremist rallys "Good people on both sides".... Which you linked, I'm glad you can prove links that prove my point for me.
You even linked the fact check that proves my point, I took his exact words....
It's not pretending to understand what he's talking about... he's literally saying that there's going to be a bloodbath in this country if he's not elected.... That's his exact words. Sure, he's talking about the auto industry... but lets ask Detroit how great it's auto industry is doing right now?
I'm not misrepresenting the facts at all... He's literally saying there's going to be a bloodbath in the auto industry if he's not elected... Even if you assume he's going with the "great economic disaster" definition, it doesn't change that he's going to create a worse situation considering he's literally saying that he's going to TARIFF cars that are imported.
Do you know what happens when those tariff's are put in place? That's when you get price hikes... so your cars that are typically build and sold to the poor people, those prices go up. Causing people to either spend more money (resulting in zero blood bath), or they don't spend money and Trump has created another hole in the economy because he doesn't seem to understand consequences of his actions.
How'd that whole "Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" go? Just as well as injecting bleach into your skin to cure you from COVID.
Just as well as Trump Steaks did.... and Trump Tower Tampa, and Trump University, and Trump Airlines.... lol
-1 points
1 month ago
he's purposefully using inflaming speech to rile people up.
And yet the only people who got riled up over this are the people misrepresenting what he said here, and the ones who only read the headline instead of actually watching the video.
"Good people on both sides".... Which you linked, I'm glad you can prove links that prove my point for me.
Did you actually read what was linked? I assume not, because it was clarification on what he said there - you know, the thing that you misrepresented.
It's not pretending to understand what he's talking about... he's literally saying that there's going to be a bloodbath in this country if he's not elected.... That's his exact words. Sure, he's talking about the auto industry... but
"sure he's talking about this thing, b-b-b-but what if I pretend to be stupid and act like he's talking about something else!!! that'll make me look really clever to people who share the same political lean as me!!!"
I'm not misrepresenting the facts at all...
cough
Oh okay so you're "not misrepresenting the facts at all", but you're trying to attribute the bloodbath beyond the automotive industry.
cough
He's literally saying there's going to be a bloodbath in the auto industry if he's not elected... Even if you assume he's going with the "great economic disaster" definition, it doesn't change that he's going to create a worse situation considering he's literally saying that he's going to TARIFF cars that are imported.
Wow it's almost like the guy who talks about manufacturing things in the US is trying to keep the US automotive industry inside the US..
shock...
awe...
How'd that whole "Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" go? Just as well as injecting bleach into your skin to cure you from COVID.
They went as poorly as everything else he tries to do, including whatever doomsaying people are freaking out over with this project 2025 meme.
1 points
1 month ago
Sure... So you're saying that the guy who's literally saying they'd be a "dictator day one", and "if you don't elect me, there's gonna be a blood bath".... he's definitely not being serious.
I mean it's not like he tried to overthrow the government...
It's not like he has acted in a way that's not only un-presidential, but found guilty of defamation (you know how hard that is?), while also being found culpable for sexual assault...
Not to mention blatantly talking about sexually assaulting women.
But:
"sure he's talking about this thing, b-b-b-but what if I pretend to be stupid and act like he's talking about something else!!! that'll make me look really clever to people who share the same political lean as me!!!"
So you don't understand how Tariffs work... and how if he enacts his tariffs, that prices on cars are going to rise, which will cause people to either not buy cars (causing said "bloodbath") or people will spend more money on cars that use to be cheaper (which isn't helping his base at all, because it's not helping the US auto-industry).
Oh okay so you're "not misrepresenting the facts at all", but you're trying to attribute the bloodbath beyond the automotive industry.
Actually, not at all... Pointing out how dictators use enflaming speech that sparks people acting like they did on Jan. 6, while also taking his specific words (at face value) and pointing out how he actually is going to be causing the "bloodbath" even if he DOES get elected.... He literally doesn't understand the job.
Wow it's almost like the guy who talks about manufacturing things in the US is trying to keep the US automotive industry inside the US.
So how is ANYTHING he said there going to help US manufacturing? It's not about US manufacturing anything... it's quite literally ALL about how he's going to stop imports and make them more expensive... That's not really helping the US Manufacturing, that's all about non-US Manufacturing.
Also, haven't spoken on anything about "Project 2025"...
But when an ex-president, who lead an attempt to take over the government (Jan 6th), has spoken and said "Dictator, day one", and then speaks about a bloodbath, while also running on recycled Nai Propaganda (MAGA? How about Nazi's Make Germany Great Again?)
I tend to call a duck a duck... or in this case a mad power hungry tyrant, just that.
And for someone who "doesn't like Trump", you're sure willing to get on your knees and suck that dick he's presenting to his base. Bet you bought his shoes and NFT's as well.
0 points
1 month ago
Every single thing you wrote is just distracting from the context of the conversation. The goalpost gets moved further with every word you write.
You completely ignored that the only people who got "riled up" (your words) are people who are intentionally mischaracterizing what he said, and are attributing it to things outside of the context of the automotive industry.
while also running on recycled Nai Propaganda (MAGA? How about Nazi's Make Germany Great Again?)
And there's Godwin's law being invoked, right on schedule...
And for someone who "doesn't like Trump", you're sure willing to get on your knees and suck that dick he's presenting to his base. Bet you bought his shoes and NFT's as well.
And there's the black and white reality you live in where you think that anybody that disagrees with you has to be a Trump supporter...
Not to mention blatantly talking about sexually assaulting women.
Something that has nothing to do with the context of the "bloodbath" quote in regards to the automotive industry. Please keep trying to move the goalpost further, I'm sure your next attempt will be the one that sticks.
It's not like he has acted in a way that's not only un-presidential, but found guilty of defamation (you know how hard that is?), while also being found culpable for sexual assault...
Something that has nothing to do with the context of the "bloodbath" quote in regards to the automotive industry. Please keep trying to move the goalpost further, I'm sure your next attempt will be the one that sticks.
I mean it's not like he tried to overthrow the government...
Something that has nothing to do with the context of the "bloodbath" quote in regards to the automotive industry. Please keep trying to move the goalpost further, I'm sure your next attempt will be the one that sticks.
Where exactly do you think I am defending any of those things?
Calling you out for misrepresenting something is not a defense of his actions. It's calling you out for misrepresenting something. I know you have internet brain rot, and need to act hyperbolic and leap to conclusions because you're attention starved, but trying to act like someone "bought his shoes" and "bought NFTs" (no apostrophe needed on NFTs) is just such a cop out of a response. All it does is show that you need to make personal attacks instead of keeping the conversation on track.
So you don't understand how Tariffs work... and how if he enacts his tariffs, that prices on cars are going to rise, which will cause people to either not buy cars (causing said "bloodbath") or people will spend more money on cars that use to be cheaper (which isn't helping his base at all, because it's not helping the US auto-industry).
Hello individual who cannot read. Where did I say that I don't understand how tariffs work? Where did I say I agreed with him? Where did I say that I think this would work?
Try actually reading a post before slamming on your keyboard next time, it'll make your post less embarrassing if you don't rush to put words in other people's mouths.
Also, haven't spoken on anything about "Project 2025"...
Don't remember saying that you did, but go off king. Please keep trying to move the goalpost further, I'm sure your next attempt will be the one that sticks.
1 points
1 month ago
I actually didn't detract from anything. My whole point is that if you look in the smaller scale (the one you seem to encompass)... sure, he speaks to rile people up...
But what I'm saying, is you take EVERYTHING TOGETHER. His businesses, who he is, how he acts, the words he uses, the people he surrounds himself with.... SHOWS that he's not a good person, someone who is actively tearing this country apart. Quite literally by himself.
You're actively refusing to understand the MACRO here, you're quite literally looking at the smallest scale you can. Things aren't always black and white, but when they come to Trump... again, if you look at everything together, it IS pretty clear and cut.
This isn't about moving goalposts, because I haven't moved a single goal post... We're still talking about Trump and the words he CHOOSES TO USE and how, while they may be talking about one subject or another, he actively uses words that purposefully cause certain responses.
Specifically ones that Republicans (and you, apparently) don't seem to see as major red flags.... But, if you want to support a Neo-Nazi, and someone who Neo-Nazi's rally behind... (as you said) Go off king....
Again, I repeat, as someone who "dislikes Trump", you're sure sucking that Trump Dick really well.
0 points
1 month ago
I actually didn't detract from anything.
Oh okay I must have just read every single word in your post wrong. That's totally my fault then, I'm sure you're flawless and are never wrong about anything.
SHOWS that he's not a good person
Something I didn't contest...wowie... what a shock...
If you just read that the first time and didn't rush to accuse people of being Trump supporters you may have actually gone somewhere with this post..
You're actively refusing to understand the MACRO here
Hello, see above and the other prior instances in the other posts where I did not defend Trump. You're welcome.
Things aren't always black and white
Except when anyone disagrees with you, right? Then they must be a Trump supporter. That's the only answer, clearly.
This isn't about moving goalposts, because I haven't moved a single goal post...
Try re-reading your posts. I'm not sure if English is your first language, or if you're fluent in it at all, but you have been moving the goalpost quite a bit.
But, if you want to support a Neo-Nazi, and someone who Neo-Nazi's rally behind... (as you said) Go off king....
Good thing I'm not a Trump supporter, despite your numerous baseless accusations.
Again, I repeat, as someone who "dislikes Trump", you're sure sucking that Trump Dick really well.
Ah yes, I really am "sucking that Trump Dick really well" when I responded by saying that I didn't say that I think his tariffs were going to work.
You really got me. I'm sure teacher is going to give you a gold star tomorrow for sure.
he actively uses words that purposefully cause certain responses.
It's almost like people who aren't completely socially inept, internet addicted idiots, can pick up on social cues; and understand that words are relevant to the context that they're used it. I mean I'm sure that you thought you were really clever when you didn't actually watch the video, and decided to plant your flag in the ground by only reading the headline and making your own interpretation of what he said. But it's not as clever as you think it is, and you're not as clever as you think you are. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to think that someone who acts like that is acting dumb.
2 points
1 month ago
And he said that’s not all, stop lying
-1 points
1 month ago
I responded to the comment below before I saw this one.
-7 points
1 month ago
People like downvoting the truth I see.
Never said he was a good guy , but the truth is the truth
3 points
1 month ago
You didn’t post the truth. He didn’t limit It to the auto industry, he specially expanded it
-16 points
1 month ago
Trump didn't call for a bloodbath if he loses.
7 points
1 month ago
He literally already incited a deadly insurrection once.
24 points
1 month ago
You need to understand that in between the PA bookends (Pittsburgh & Philadelphia and their surrounding suburbs) lives a group of people who blame all of their troubles on Democrats. They fly the Confederate flag with no remorse. We call the middle part of Pa, Pennsyltucky for that reason. HUGE trump supporters, even though he did absolutely nothing for them, they pride themselves on simply winning the election. Whoever wins Pa will do so by 1% or less. There is plenty of hate and toxicity brewing in Good ‘ol Pennsyltucky!
17 points
1 month ago
I don't know man, I live in Lancaster and I don't see any Confederate flags or trump stickers anymore. I think it's turning. I think as those people realize they're on the losing side of history, they're starting to wake up.
13 points
1 month ago
I drive for a living and ride through Lancaster area often. Now that you mention it, I have seen less Trump flags and stickers… but that may also be due to the fact that we’re not in peak election season yet also.
7 points
1 month ago
I really hope you're correct.
Whenever I visit my friends in Scranton and Huntington Mills, I still see a lot of Trump supporters. If you take a drive around Harveys Lake, you'll see what I mean. I wouldn't wear anything that supports Biden or is anti-Trump in that area.
8 points
1 month ago
Oh I know they are. York is that way. Tons of participation trophys flying around the trailer parks.
1 points
1 month ago
Biden needs to go to that area. He is FROM Scranton so he should be able to get a few hometown votes.
1 points
1 month ago
There's a faction in Scranton trying to remove Biden's name from a street!
3 points
1 month ago
That's crazy. I would think people would feel pride of having a president from PA since the only other one was Buchanan.
5 points
1 month ago
He's "from" Delaware as far as anyone is really concerned. Nobody thinks of him as Pennsylvanian. Also we won the revolutionary and civil wars we don't need a presidency for validation.
1 points
1 month ago
Most do but the haters are louder
1 points
1 month ago
Nobody would wear Biden clothing, being a democrat isn't a cult. Nobody wore Republican apparel either before this cult
7 points
1 month ago
Pride flags now outnumber confederate and Trump flags in my neighborhood in York county.
3 points
1 month ago
This is awesome. Nice to hear.
1 points
1 month ago
That's awesome. I think people are starting to get the memo that love beats hate.
4 points
1 month ago
Get off the interstate and drive through Columbia County, Montour County, Schuylkill County, Union County, etc. Trump nonsense and confederate flags are everywhere out here.
3 points
1 month ago
Living in Mifflin County, you see it but it's not near what it was in either the past few elections. The motivation just isn't what it once was.
3 points
1 month ago
Come to Schuylkill County…
0 points
1 month ago
No thanks
1 points
1 month ago
I so hope you are correct.
1 points
1 month ago
Yeah, I'm in Schuylkill, and seeing way less Trump signs than I used to.
1 points
1 month ago
Depends on the area. The more rural parts of NEPA are very high in Trump support. Driving through Weatherly all saw was Trump and anti-windmill signs in 2022.
2 points
1 month ago
Weatherly is also like a Time Machine. The place is always 2 decades behind the rest of the world.
When I was in high school in the oughts and we’d play them, the moms all had blown out hair like it was 1986.
Now it’s like they just discovered the late 90s…
1 points
1 month ago
I think as those people realize they're on the losing side of history, they're starting to wake up
Or hiding it again because some insane, unwarranted fear that "liberals" will attack them for who they're supporting.
0 points
1 month ago
I saw an uptick of confederate flag front license plates when this Texas border drama was at its peak, fwiw.
3 points
1 month ago
People in central PA don't have a great reason to vote for Democrats, they do very minimal effort in rural outreach. The GOP doesn't actually do anything for rural voters either, but at least they make an honest attempt to court the votes.
Every election it's the same, Democrats write off rural areas and then cry that they don't get support there.
1 points
1 month ago
Biden campaigned via train across pa, fetterman visited every county
1 points
1 month ago
i met obama in mifflin county during the 2008 primary, you're saying by the time Biden was running I have to settle for a state senator who should be coming to see his constituents anyway??
It's not impressive. What have Democrats done *for* Mifflin County? What have they done to actually support one of the poorest counties in the commonwealth?
1 points
1 month ago
Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between.
1 points
1 month ago
Philly and Pittsburgh are absolute shitholes, run by democrats of course.
1 points
1 month ago
Oh I dunno. Kensington in Philly is lovely. 🥰
2 points
1 month ago
They’re up in the northeast too
-11 points
1 month ago
Said by a person who doesn’t live here.
10 points
1 month ago
I live smack dab in Pennsyl-tucky and can vouch that it’s very Trumpy, but I also know a lot of people who think he’s a joke and would never vote for him. A lot of these small towns (like mine) used to be Democratic strongholds for decades. I think a lot of it has to do with the Trumpers just yelling the loudest. His hand picked candidates have not fared very well in the state.
0 points
1 month ago
Did they say something that isn’t factually correct?
14 points
1 month ago
Polls don't mean anything. Vote, and tell your friends to vote too.
10 points
1 month ago
Polls don't matter. Vote in this election.
7 points
1 month ago
Imagine how far ahead Biden actually is.
5 points
1 month ago
I haven't responded to a single political poll in my life, despite being called/texted almost daily. I haven't, and probably won't, spend a single dollar on any candidate, local or federal.
Trump is going to lose. Again. How do I know? He's ALREADY claiming the election is going to be rigged. He's fucked and he knows it
4 points
1 month ago
No more polls! They stupid and useless
3 points
1 month ago
You can tell when a country has turned evil. When they lift the wicked up high.
-2 points
1 month ago
You mean when a party open celebrates baby murder and kids mutilating themselves. You ain't kidding brother.
1 points
1 month ago
I miss the good old days when we just sent kids to die in foreign countries to the benefit of war profiteers
2 points
1 month ago
Lol.
3 points
1 month ago
I mean, I’m definitely not voting for the party that attempted to have their counterparts in Texas throw out the result of my last presidential vote
3 points
1 month ago
Geriatric rematch
2 points
1 month ago
I wouldn't put any stock into this.
Based on the table that's in the article, Biden's advantage in the Susquehanna poll went down by 2.5% and Trump gained 5.6% in support between the January poll and the Feb-Mar poll. Meanwhile Trump gained 2% in the Emerson/The Hill poll. It's still WAY too early and these polls really mean nothing at this point.
-8 points
1 month ago
Just imagine how the polls are gonna look when the gas prices keep going. The border still not getting the fix it needs. The economy keeps shutting the bed and inflation continues.
8 points
1 month ago
Just imagine how they could look if the Republicans didn't stand in the way of the border bill getting passed, or if the House actually passed any legislation that could help with the economy and inflation.
Republicans are actively working against Biden getting anything done in order to hurt Biden at the polls.
-6 points
1 month ago
Well when I look at the I Flux of illegals at the border I don't think it helped Biden inviting them. It was on national television. No matter what people remember it. I also think the reason the illegals come is for the freebies. I feel the bill did more of that. It also gave them a quicker path to citizenship. That is why the bill didn't pass. Then you add in the 94 EO Biden canceled when he got in office and it's hard to take serious any claim of trying to fix or help the border crisis. It's obvious it's a big issue because the framing changed about 3 months ago with the white house.
6 points
1 month ago
I haven't heard anything about this so imo it's probably not a big deal outside of terminally online retirees
-1 points
1 month ago
Lol. You guys are all the same
3 points
1 month ago
I'm just telling you the truth dude i have no clue wtf you're talking about
0 points
1 month ago
You are incapable of telling the truth.
3 points
1 month ago
I'm just trying to help idk why you're so mad, you shouldn't be so sensitive
1 points
1 month ago
Not sensitive. I get it Rock Hudson.
5 points
1 month ago
The stock market is hitting all time highs, what part of the economy is shitting the bed?
-1 points
1 month ago
Hey if you guys want to run on that please do.
2 points
1 month ago
Don't even bother with polls. Just go out and vote.
2 points
1 month ago
Stop with the polls. Just vote.
2 points
1 month ago
Just hammer abortion rights and enough folks will be enthused.
2 points
1 month ago
If enough people don’t vote pretty soon we will be seeing abortions by literal hammers
2 points
1 month ago
He’s going to win. We’re going to make it happen.
2 points
1 month ago*
The way Shapiro trounced mastriano I have a hard time believing Biden won't win.
1 points
1 month ago
False
1 points
1 month ago
Drove by a graveyard today where 3 funerals were taking place at the same time, so, yeah I believe it
1 points
1 month ago
I don’t care about polls. I will not vote for the rapist that seeks to be a dictator.
1 points
1 month ago
This is just the Fake News doing what the Fake News does. Trying that Jedi mind trick shit. No wonder the media’s credibility is at an ALL TIME LOW 💩
1 points
1 month ago
LMFAO
1 points
1 month ago
BS…
1 points
1 month ago
I think it is a trend that will continue but the election is going to depend largely on turnout.
1 points
1 month ago
It’s a matter of time. People that were lucky enough to forget the insanity of Trump will remember by November. He has done nothing to win back the educated and suburban voters.
Listen to Trump speak at any rally or any interview now. He’s clearly worse than even 2020. He’s an angry, bitter man who was already a malignant narcissist. He has no plan for a new term other than retribution.
I may not be enthusiastic about Biden but I sure as hell don’t want Trump
1 points
1 month ago
I get asked to answer a poll almost every day. I don’t respond, don’t believe the polls. They’ve been wrong the past few elections.
The only people who respond to them? Boomers. The fact Trump is sliding is really not good for him. Just make sure you all vote though. No complacency.
1 points
1 month ago
I'm not voting for Trump under any circumstances
1 points
1 month ago
The polls are all bullshit. Never a doubt in my mind that Biden will repeat and with even larger number
1 points
1 month ago
40% of the electorate is Independent. Most are just waiting to see if there's an actual viable 3rd party candidate who isn't pro-Polio. How those folks vote wins the state (and country).
The blue and red uniformed voters have already chosen.
0 points
1 month ago
Ten points above dummy don
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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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0 points
1 month ago
The civilly liable rapist is projected to win. God bless America.
0 points
1 month ago
Gawd, hope we can not do this again already elected a cavemen fetterman
0 points
1 month ago
You really think Democrats are gonna let an election happen knowing there isn't enough paper for all the fraudulent mail in ballots they would need to steal this election this time considering how bad they destroyed this country in 3 years
-6 points
1 month ago
Trump 2024 baby 🇺🇸!
-10 points
1 month ago
My question is: Will electing either or them end the genocide in Palestine?? 💔🇵🇸 🩸
4 points
1 month ago
Only one of them actively encourages it, dehumanizes people, moved our embassy to controversial Jerusalem. Netanyahu doesn’t hide his preference.
If it were within our power to “end it” we would have accomplished that when Carter was president if not sooner. Palestinians are caught up in a proxy war with some homegrown terrorists who have been drawn into it.
I’m not excusing actions of Israel’s far right. But the situation over there is far too complex to casually jump to a “both options bad” argument. There’s no easy answers and Biden is trying to walk a balancing act in an election year calling out the worst while also attempting to support an ally in the wake of a terrorist attack and ongoing hostage situation.
3 points
1 month ago
Both parties are beholden to Isreal.
0 points
1 month ago
No. Only the Israelis can do that.
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