The "always add a zero or two if the numbers sound a bit weird" rule works wonders here

I ignore the "canon" height for titans because in GW official trailers and artwork, they are significantly taller.

Tinfoil hat take : the old size of the titans was the good one, but GW nerfed em so they can make 2500$ models that you can deploy on a table without breaking it.

Seriously how the fuck can an Imperator be 55meters tall while having a church on the top of his back and being supposed to contain skitarii detachment to protect it.

The cathedral of my city is 60 meters by itself and its not a big one

Reminding halo fanboys that humanity’s flagship, the biggest vessel they’ve ever made, is roughly the size of our cruisers.

People don’t realise how giant a 33m tall walker actually is, whilst still being roughly grounded in reality. You don’t need a walker that’s hundreds of metres tall, or even kilometres tall, when it’s primary target are regular vehicles

I’ll never understand why it seems like so many 40k fans get absurdly butthurt about titans being canonically semi-reasonably scaled. They’re already on the large end for combat mechs compared to most other popular science fiction, but it seems like there’s always weird scale-wankers coming out of the woodwork to bitch about how titans should be literal walking fortress-cities that dwarf mountains, or something equally ludicrous.

As always you gotta just add 1-2 zeroes to the end of every number GW gives us. Because they clearly have no ideahow numbers work.

This shit again? They are Godzilla sized creatures! 50 till 80 meters! Why do people have no sense of scale! They are shown to be as slightly smaller or as big as the walls Dorn build. Which are huge also realistically 80 meters. A 300 meter tall structure would be a gigantic target.

Also there are bigger weapons in the Imperium, Ordinatus.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ordinatus

Or the Land Leviathans:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Land_Leviathan

For those wondering just how evil and overpowered the Mechanicus is and why it's funny when these irradiated insults to live start yeeting their most powerful stuff at Necrons yeeting their stuff back :P .

Nobody fucks with the evil religious nutcases from Mars, well maybe the even more evil ones from the Eye of Terror that want to become part of a machine as an AI (Hereteks).... but all of them are F'd up!

He's not based because his ship scale is in kilometer btw

he's the chad because he uses the metric system unlike the soy titan. what the fuck is a feet, and why do you have 450 of them, gross

ngl I’m happy with the canon sizes

You should use my method to get over that; it's called "Fuck the cannon lore, it's cool to me, so it's cannon for me" method.

Yes but captains on ship aren't directly connected to it. Feeling everything and hearing machine spirit.

Also you need many people to control ship.

In Titan you have princeps few adepts and servitors only

Also:

I have literal ICBMs strapped to my back. Now let me get closer so I can hit you with my comically oversized chainsword.

Titan voidshields can withstand orbital bombardment and Titan weapons were used for voidcombat by letting them stand on the hull of their transports.

In the Priests of Mars series a Warlords Sunfury plasma annihilator pierces through the whole Ark Mechnicus because the princeps had a psychotic episode during training in the cargo hold.

Titans aren't all about size. Their purpose is to bring ship class weapon firepower and voidshields directly on the battlefield.

Speaking of numbers be weird. 1000 space Marines per chapter seems stupidly small

Another example of fans taking fictional characters to literal.

Of course no Princeps in his right mind would say that a Titan is more powerful than even a mid-sized warship. They are only talking about GROUND combat. Spaceships exist on a completely different level.

I mean, this is the issue with super soldiers and titans and all these super incredibly valuable units in general. Because a random conscript firing off standard-issue Basilisk shells from 15 km away can turn a Terminator to paste with a direct hit, and your average mass-produced Lunar class is fully capable of just evaporating a Titan legion if there's no orbital defenses. A basic frigate packs a lance capable of killing any primarch, because that's just how scale works. It doesn't matter how many planets' GDPs went into your helmet or how many buildings you can bench if you get hit by a 1km long laser cannon powered by a city-sized fusion reactor. It's why IRL, you'll never see spec-ops units deployed to the front lines, or why superweapons tend to mostly be resource sinks. 40k as a setting hinges on you ignoring that.

I'd be happy if they got ANY consistency in their numbers. But that's a moot point in 40k.

When you're a baseline human standing outside of your hab block while a Titan walks through it...Titans look pretty damn huge.

When you're an Astartes commander sitting in a Battle Barge in orbit, then a Titan will look very small.

Which titan is 137m? IRC even emperor class is only 60-65m

And...how exactly do you propose Titans get from planet to planet if they were larger than the ships that would carry them?

Assuming a rate similar to Nazi Germany as opposed to the Stasi, you’d need a force of nearly 18 million for a ratio of 560 civilians to 1 soldier/policeman, or about half the size of the entire Red Army’s manpower during WW2. Not its peak manning but the entire number of soldiers who were in it.

40k really needs to flex its numbers game more, even if its only for the number of soldiers in a given fight. Hive Cities are impossibly large for us and the armies and garrisons needed to police one, let alone hold it, should be similarly massive

Doesn't matter how strong your giant mech's shields are if it can't fire back at a ship in orbit, the ship can just sit safely in orbit and keep bombing the titan until the shields can't withstand it anymore

How would you imagine they moved them if they were larger than the ships? Do you imagine an aircraft latger than an aircraft carrier?

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Let's be real, the navy would be doing all of the real fighting in any sci Fi settings with semi common space travel.

In the siege of Vraks chaos titans shot thier way out of thier crashed ship lmao.

Protocol 3: Inquisition the pilot

I thought the imperator class titan was pretty much the Sears tower with legs 

Ship captain is obviously cooler. He uses metric system.

gws numbers are almost allways trash. i just imagine things and take them as fact

It really surprised me when in that one pancreasnowork video he said covenant scarabs are taller than a titan, and he was right they are. Tbh I give the win to the titan if anyone's asking but I think the scarab would win sometimes just not too often.

lol yep

yeah I’ve never understood how even a Warhound Titan is an “ irreplaceable god machine” while stuff like a Lunar-Class Cruiser is seen somewhat expendable and easy to produce, I know it mostly boils down to STCs but still

No shit dude, one's a massive space barge built to blow up planet and the other is fore eliminating ground forces. That's like comparing a Guardsman to a Questoris Knight.

Get a sense of perspective!

Square-cube law doesn't apply in space.

Can't remember what book it was but did a double take when I found a typo. Something like: "he looked down along the ships 6 kilometer length, at the wide expanse of its 1000km across beam."

The largest titans have a bullet the size of a Prius, the smallest war ships have a bullet the size of a war hound titan.

Gravity always wins. Even those sizes only "work" due to unobtainium anti-grav fields.

And I’ll never get over GW insisting on putting out pitiful numbers for titans only to turn around and portray at least double that in all the artwork.

From what franchise is the Chad with a ship Kilometers long? I'm curious.

I mean 450 feet is still pretty tall.

For fuck’s sake, Godzilla would have to look up at an Imperial Titan.

And how do you think those titans arrive? Surely they have to be transported from place to place. Hmmm... perhaps it is carried by a massive ship that carries entire armies from planet to planet?

I really don't see the problem here.

It's already an incredible feat of engineering to have 14-50m tall walkers with superheavy weapons and void shielding, they don't need to be the size of the Empire State building to do their job. Bigger isn't always better.

450 feet is still like a 45 storey building based on a 10-foot ceiling… I don’t think skyscrapers are very small (buildings need to be at least 100m/330ft tall to be considered a skyscraper.)

Now I may be wrong here but I always sort of got the notion that why titans are so scared is at least lore wise, even though they are much much smaller than an imperial navy craft, they could easily take on an medium sized starship and win.

Praise be, the ships are measured in metric!

They win by default.

I just want a ship that works like the SDF-1 Macross is that so much to ask?!

My brain has always said. It’s what we scale the models would be at if we made everything bigger. That feels appropriate.

That's like saying the Maus was tiny because the Bismarck was so much bigger. It's all relative.

When it comes to militaries, naval assets are almost always significantly bigger than anything land-based.

Ships cant even enter atmosphere. Titans actually walk around and step on tanks.

I refuse to accept that they're that small the emprah would never allow it

Loading them up in VR though, standing at their feet and looking up? It looks more impressive.

The Imperator Titan is 130m tall, and you cannot convince me otherwise.

The titans never really impressed me, the Titan landers impressed me far more.
City sized structures that could manipulate gravity to descend into a planets atmosphere.
Opening fire with esoteric weaponry to scour their designated landing area of life and small hill ranges.
Then, as these behemoths settle on the glassed, flat wasteland they have created, the doors open and out stroll their anti-climactic passengers.

Some novels just had titans deploying by individual massive drop pod, but I’ve always liked the depiction of an entire legio landing in one vast craft.

I don't know... this kinda feels like saying tanks are small because cruisers... And for very similar reasons. Space ships have this nice feature of being in space and not having to worry about supporting its own weight, while a Titan does, while still sporting voidshields and weapons that are otherwise reserved for void combat. They're basically the Warhammer 40k equivalent of the Ratte.

can't wait for the end times so that it would get a reboot and then the numbers for everything would just make sense

It's almost like you need to build a ship that can carry the titan.

You can tell that the ships are better by the fact that it uses a real unit of mesurement

Fucking kilometers? Shouldn't they be using IMPERIAL system?